What is the most powerful flying bug? This poll is closed. |
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🦋 | 15 | 3.71% | |
🦇 | 115 | 28.47% | |
🪰 | 12 | 2.97% | |
🐦 | 67 | 16.58% | |
dragonfly | 94 | 23.27% | |
🦟 | 14 | 3.47% | |
🐝 | 87 | 21.53% | |
Total: | 404 votes |
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What's important is that everyone needs to suffer a little more, and Ukrainians need to die a lot more, but it's all going to be worth it in the end. Trust the experts.
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# ? Jun 27, 2023 20:44 |
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# ? May 26, 2024 08:09 |
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supersnowman posted:So a quad barrel M777 is not technically impossible? I mean, if it's acceptable to have a complex recoil system... Always more dakka
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# ? Jun 27, 2023 20:46 |
Lostconfused posted:What's important is that everyone needs to suffer a little more, and Ukrainians need to die a lot more, but it's all going to be worth it in the end. even prigozhin is encouraging the ukranians to keep trying, what a good sport
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# ? Jun 27, 2023 20:46 |
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Zedhe Khoja posted:so like what the Wagner dude took over an office in Rostov and people thought he was gonna storm Moscow and execute Putin on live TV instead of just being given a 10% larger sack of rubles or whatever? I'm not so sure Prigozhin knew what he wanted. https://twitter.com/snekotron/status/1673352609749426181?s=46&t=UyfxoSAUKW7QZlR_GhkuYA If I'm reading this thing correctly I think he wants to try the flying column they sent to Moscow, but this time it's coming from Belarus towards Kiev? Ok, man.
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# ? Jun 27, 2023 20:47 |
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Also, the main solution to dealing with China clearly was to just topple the Russian again, and if that if off the table...thing start looking pretty bleak in terms of hegemony. I love how goofy and ridiculous the storyline they are making up is though.
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# ? Jun 27, 2023 20:49 |
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The problem with longer, heavier, projectiles in 777 specifically is that the cradle already has serious issues and so increasing recoil force and chamber pressure is not really acceptable, neither is shifting the weight or balance to make up for it. I think I alluded to the problem's Ukraine is going to have with these guns logistically. Changing even one of these out has proven to be a major headache, and several would need to be altered to accommodate bigger shells, since even standard ones at reduced charges are wrecking the cradles and hydraulics. You would also have to run any modifications though the many, many contractors Which already had to happen to accommodate Excalibur in the first place This is not like the old days when the King owned the cannon foundry and could order new guns cast to a certain calibre and old guns rebored. Now, everybody has to get paid.That dramatically complicates changes that a state arsenal could reasonably make 50, 40, probably even 30 years ago.
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# ? Jun 27, 2023 20:51 |
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I hope Pirgozhin starts asking for Western arms to march on Moscow.
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# ? Jun 27, 2023 20:54 |
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:I'm not so sure Prigozhin knew what he wanted. can putin hurry up and kill this rear end in a top hat
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# ? Jun 27, 2023 20:55 |
Ardennes posted:I hope Pirgozhin starts asking for Western arms to march on Moscow. at this point, i worry if he asked just right they may actually give him arms
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# ? Jun 27, 2023 20:55 |
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Frosted Flake posted:The problem with longer, heavier, projectiles in 777 specifically is that the cradle already has serious issues and so increasing recoil force and chamber pressure is not really acceptable, neither is shifting the weight or balance to make up for it. I think I alluded to the problem's Ukraine is going to have with these guns logistically. Changing even one of these out has proven to be a major headache, and several would need to be altered to accommodate bigger shells, since even standard ones at reduced charges are wrecking the cradles and hydraulics. i've seen academic consortiums more rationally organised than this
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# ? Jun 27, 2023 20:56 |
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Raskolnikov38 posted:can putin hurry up and kill this rear end in a top hat I think he's just going to stick around and get a TV show in a few years.
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# ? Jun 27, 2023 20:57 |
this war, summarized in one line
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# ? Jun 27, 2023 20:58 |
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if wagner goes into ukraine from belarus, is that an act of war on the part of belarus? or is it an out of control mercenary group, as shown from the recent coup attempt, and belarus argues it was not responsible?
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# ? Jun 27, 2023 20:58 |
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Ardennes posted:I hope Pirgozhin starts asking for Western arms to march on Moscow. Столтенберг, Байден, сука, where is my ammo?!
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# ? Jun 27, 2023 20:58 |
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V. Illych L. posted:i've seen academic consortiums more rationally organised than this I would expect to see a slide with The Gun 2.0 tbh
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# ? Jun 27, 2023 20:58 |
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celadon posted:if wagner goes into ukraine from belarus, is that an act of war on the part of belarus? or is it an out of control mercenary group, as shown from the recent coup attempt, and belarus argues it was not responsible? The Russians went from Belarus into Ukraine. I think that train has left the station?
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# ? Jun 27, 2023 20:59 |
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Ardennes posted:I hope Pirgozhin starts asking for Western arms to march on Moscow. Good luck to him, seriously. JFC.
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# ? Jun 27, 2023 20:59 |
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genericnick posted:The Russians went from Belarus into Ukraine. I think that train has left the station? Everyone likes to pretend that didn't happen.
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# ? Jun 27, 2023 21:00 |
celadon posted:if wagner goes into ukraine from belarus, is that an act of war on the part of belarus? or is it an out of control mercenary group, as shown from the recent coup attempt, and belarus argues it was not responsible? they've been pushing military units into ukraine from belarus since the beginning and it hasn't been a big deal w.r.t. belarus being an active participant in hostilities legally, although its clear that they are practically participating. i figure the rules for attacking them is the same as striking into russian territory, its right there, but they still don't for reasons
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# ? Jun 27, 2023 21:00 |
samogonka posted:Столтенберг, Байден, сука, where is my ammo?! lol i want a horde of nafo trolls demanding the orc warband be given more dakka
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# ? Jun 27, 2023 21:01 |
Prigozhin is a self-motivated man with determinación. He's going to go far
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# ? Jun 27, 2023 21:01 |
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Frosted Flake posted:
Lmao so F-35 style production is not the exception, it's the norm holy poo poo. Is the Abrams like the only capital intensive bit of kit that is still made the old fashioned way?
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# ? Jun 27, 2023 21:02 |
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Lostconfused posted:Everyone likes to pretend that didn't happen. Must have been another of Lukashenko's manly phone calls.
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# ? Jun 27, 2023 21:02 |
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Let's face it. Lukashenko is the main character of this war. Lostconfused has issued a correction as of 21:05 on Jun 27, 2023 |
# ? Jun 27, 2023 21:03 |
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genericnick posted:The Russians went from Belarus into Ukraine. I think that train has left the station? Yeah, it is question if the Ukrainians would start targeting Belarus this time or not though. If they do Belarus would get directly get involved. I don't think it would change that much directly but honestly I think the Ukrainians are hurting for manpower and equipment as it is and they don't need even more troops pouring into them. Frosted Flake posted:Good luck to him, seriously. JFC. Canada should empty out the last of its warehouses, not a bullet left. Give Pirgozhin and Wagner your F-18s. Danann posted:Is the Abrams like the only capital intensive bit of kit that is still made the old fashioned way? Even the Abrams has had a bunch of random kits and modifications it over years that don't come cheap. Supposedly, there are actually about 1700 of them still in the desert, but they have been slowly been cannibalized/used as replacements over the years. Ardennes has issued a correction as of 21:09 on Jun 27, 2023 |
# ? Jun 27, 2023 21:05 |
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Orange Devil posted:I would expect to see a slide with The Gun 2.0 tbh Technically that's an ongoing US Army program, I'm fuzzy on how US procurement works, but I think sustainment requiring major modifications is an ACAT II, so we'd probably brand it M777 2.0 in Canada. We're wrecking components on 777's because they were designed to be lightweight, but as section 5 indicates, so much has been added to them that they're paradoxically nearly overweight now too. I would not be shocked if a new lightweight howitzer program was authorized, since the trials of titanium /aluminum 777s failed, iirc. Frosted Flake has issued a correction as of 21:11 on Jun 27, 2023 |
# ? Jun 27, 2023 21:08 |
Lostconfused posted:Let's face it. It's too bad he looks like Fat Hitler
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# ? Jun 27, 2023 21:09 |
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supersnowman posted:So a quad barrel M777 is not technically impossible? I mean, if it's acceptable to have a complex recoil system...
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# ? Jun 27, 2023 21:11 |
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Повёрнутые на Z войне 🇷🇺 posted:
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# ? Jun 27, 2023 21:12 |
Hatebag posted:It's too bad he looks like Fat Hitler lukashenko is the best, i treasure his childlike wonder https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1JNtiO7nhmo
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# ? Jun 27, 2023 21:12 |
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paul_soccer12 posted:if anything it will probably grow larger some say that they build, for china
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# ? Jun 27, 2023 21:12 |
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Lostconfused posted:(from t.me/voenacher/47453, via tgsa) you may not like it but this is what peak mt-lb looks like
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# ? Jun 27, 2023 21:13 |
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Frosted Flake posted:The problem with longer, heavier, projectiles in 777 specifically is that the cradle already has serious issues and so increasing recoil force and chamber pressure is not really acceptable What if instead of replacing the propellant you replace the the explosive with something more powerful but less stable, like CL-20?
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# ? Jun 27, 2023 21:14 |
Delta-Wye posted:lukashenko is the best, i treasure his childlike wonder Yeah, he's a funny guy
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# ? Jun 27, 2023 21:14 |
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he's BIG !
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# ? Jun 27, 2023 21:15 |
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You can also see how they painted themselves into a corner with the GPS stuff, because the requirement to "counter or mitigate GPS denial" with items such as "anti-jam antennas, sensor fusion schemes to leverage other available sensors, or other technologies" should not be part of a field artillery gun. Since the electronics on the guns now barely work, and require a lot of power (which is unreliable) addressed in the next item, enhanced batteries, and the weight is already a problem, the fifth item, they turned the original 1970's specification for a lightweight, towed 155mm gun-howitzer into... well it's going to have the power and antennae to burn through jam? Really? Like, what the gently caress are we doing here people?
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# ? Jun 27, 2023 21:18 |
paul_soccer12 posted:he's BIG ! looks like they're getting ready for some airsoft
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# ? Jun 27, 2023 21:18 |
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how do you rapidly increase production on something thats constructed in a dozen different places? that seems like a difficult coordination problem
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# ? Jun 27, 2023 21:18 |
Frosted Flake posted:Like, what the gently caress are we doing here people? trying to outspend the soviet union in an arms race duh
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# ? Jun 27, 2023 21:18 |
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# ? May 26, 2024 08:09 |
Frosted Flake posted:You can also see how they painted themselves into a corner with the GPS stuff, because the requirement to "counter or mitigate GPS denial" with items such as "anti-jam antennas, sensor fusion schemes to leverage other available sensors, or other technologies" should not be part of a field artillery gun. Hang on, they use gps for artillery??? Lmao people are going to be blown to bits because it's cloudy or they had to set up near some trees.
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# ? Jun 27, 2023 21:20 |