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lol. "goes back to" lol. no.
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Jun 27, 2023 20:32
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0 days since last Russian war crime.
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Jun 27, 2023 20:33
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Imagine the difference this war would be if russia missiled actual military targets. They've used what 500? 1k? missiles now and it's mostly been appartments, malls, schools and hospitals. Also now running on lower reservers of shells/rockets due to doing the same thing.
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Jun 27, 2023 20:33
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Its good that Putin kept Shoigu and that guy from the Police academy movies, it would be really bad for Ukrainian army if the Russians found out that they can use missiles and suicide drones also against military targets.
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Jun 27, 2023 20:34
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Dwesa posted:
the cope tennis court
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Jun 27, 2023 20:46
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Der Kyhe posted:Its good that Putin kept Shoigu and that guy from the Police academy movies, it would be really bad for Ukrainian army if the Russians found out that they can use missiles and suicide drones also against military targets. It would be pretty funny if the hotdog man managed to get Shoigu fired but yeah if it was replaced by some halfway-competent warmonger it could've been worse
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Jun 27, 2023 20:46
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Tai posted:Imagine the difference this war would be if russia missiled actual military targets. They've used what 500? 1k? missiles now and it's mostly been appartments, malls, schools and hospitals. Also now running on lower reservers of shells/rockets due to doing the same thing. The thing is, russia's intelligence is awful and Ukraine's air defense is fairly good, so they really can't hit anything useful.
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Jun 27, 2023 20:53
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Der Kyhe posted:Its good that Putin kept Shoigu and that guy from the Police academy movies, it would be really bad for Ukrainian army if the Russians found out that they can use missiles and suicide drones also against military targets. Russians: Not...commit...war crimes...? I'm not following
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Jun 27, 2023 20:53
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Dumb Sex-Parrot posted:welp gotta hand it to the 'this benefits putin' guy yeah if you ignore the dozen ways this has left putin weaker and also the ways the upside from this got spoiled this definitely benefits putin
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Jun 27, 2023 21:01
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mobby_6kl posted:It would be pretty funny if the hotdog man managed to get Shoigu fired but yeah if it was replaced by some halfway-competent warmonger it could've been worse That reminds me of early in the war, when Ukraine's anti-corruption office sent a letter to Shoigu thanking him for his contributions to Ukraine's war effort. https://twitter.com/Liveuamap/status/1501991946851655684
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Jun 27, 2023 21:12
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ryde posted:Not gonna lie I was pretty worried at the rumored MoD change potentially putting someone competent in charge, so I'm pretty happy that there are (apparently) no significant changes. No such person exists, they are hiding all the competent Generals out back with the Real Russian Army (tm) that was gonna show up any day now. Putin’s been in charge for two decades. Everyone capable of doing poo poo is long gone.
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Jun 27, 2023 21:15
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Nieuw Amsterdam posted:No such person exists, they are hiding all the competent Generals out back with the Real Russian Army (tm) that was gonna show up any day now. "long gone" implies, ha ha ha, ahahahah, it implies ahahaahah, excuse me, ahahaahah. no actually, I have flown into Sheremetyevo is varoious different levels of competance and i have not died even once, Russians are competant of a great many things oir were, so I find myself agreeing with you, on second thoughts. staberind fucked around with this message at 21:23 on Jun 27, 2023 |
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Jun 27, 2023 21:19
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Nieuw Amsterdam posted:No such person exists, they are hiding all the competent Generals out back with the Real Russian Army (tm) that was gonna show up any day now. You just wait. Russia will resurrect Zhukov any day now! 
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Jun 27, 2023 21:23
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There might be some competent guy in the lower ranks, but because he isn't corrupt as hell he'll never get promoted.
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Jun 27, 2023 21:27
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Competence is the enemy of unquestioning loyalty. There isn't a single career officer in the army above captain that isn't promoted based on loyalty anymore, as Putin took over some 20 years ago. There is competency in places like FSB or Rosvgardia, but they aren't military, they are enforcers and people who can only keep the civilians in place.
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Jun 27, 2023 21:27
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Lucky Guy posted:the cope tennis court chicken coop Nieuw Amsterdam posted:No such person exists, they are hiding all the competent Generals out back with the Real Russian Army (tm) that was gonna show up any day now. the competent generals are right here laughing along with us, just out of frame
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Jun 27, 2023 21:28
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Der Kyhe posted:There is competency in places like FSB or Rosvgardia, but they aren't military, they are enforcers and people who can only keep the civilians in place. Honestly I doubt it. Especially after the ride of the Wagnerites. Blunt jackbooted repression (or the image of it) also doesn't require alot of skill or finesse. I don't really know why people keep bringing up the Rosgvardia as not being a pile of poo poo rotted out by corruption and favoritism. There is really no evidence to suggest why they should be so different from the army as far as I'm concenred. They are part of the same system, they are not the secret good army.
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Jun 27, 2023 21:36
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Randarkman posted:Honestly I doubt it. Especially after the ride of the Wagnerites. Blunt jackbooted repression (or the image of it) also doesn't require alot of skill or finesse. They are, supposedly, a 400k strong paramilitary force which is mostly untapped as emperor needs his security forces. In any sane scenario they'd be badly outgunned by an actual military unit, but competent and professional force that follows military hierarchy. But what we saw last weekend, they might be just another paper bear with some reserve cops with minimal training, armed mostly with rusty BMPs, infantry leftovers and riot gear.
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Jun 27, 2023 21:41
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naem posted:chicken coop Coop d'etat
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Jun 27, 2023 21:42
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Der Kyhe posted:They are, supposedly, a 400k strong paramilitary force which is mostly untapped as emperor needs his security forces. In any sane scenario they'd be badly outgunned by an actual military unit, but competent and professional force that follows military hierarchy. But what we saw last weekend, they might be just another paper bear with some reserve cops with minimal training, armed mostly with rusty BMPs, infantry leftovers and riot gear. A guy with an excavator did immeasurably more to hinder the coup than all of the Rosgvardia combined
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Jun 27, 2023 21:55
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Dwesa posted:just some pictures of Shoigu's humble abode
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Jun 27, 2023 21:55
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steinrokkan posted:A guy with an excavator did immeasurably more to hinder the coup than all of the Rosgvardia combined Yes. Maybe they were outside of the picture with T-14 Armatas and those sci-fi armors that can take .50 Barrett from any angle, just laughing at the excavator guy. EDIT: BTW I am not disagreeing with you, if that isn't clear enough. Last weekend proved that Rosvgardia is just another joke of an unit as the rest of them, and one that might not even mostly exist beyond the paperwork to fleece money. Der Kyhe fucked around with this message at 22:07 on Jun 27, 2023 |
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Jun 27, 2023 21:57
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dude busted up that highway in the perfect spot too. can't go around because of a lake
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Jun 27, 2023 22:11
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HonorableTB posted:dude busted up that highway in the perfect spot too. can't go around because of a lake A Swan Lake? 
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Jun 27, 2023 22:17
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Der Kyhe posted:Yes. Maybe they were outside of the picture with T-14 Armatas and those sci-fi armors that can take .50 Barrett from any angle, just laughing at the excavator guy. HonorableTB posted:dude busted up that highway in the perfect spot too. can't go around because of a lake Serious question- is there a saying or a proverb or something in Russia that more or less equates to "If you think what I did was dumb, it is you who are stupid" or something like that? I'm not really even sure why it popped into my head, but it would kind of explain some things
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Jun 27, 2023 22:19
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Pot Smoke Phoenix posted:Serious question- is there a saying or a proverb or something in Russia that more or less equates to "If you think what I did was dumb, it is you who are stupid" or something like that? idk about that one but one of my favorites is "not my circus, not my monkeys" which i think is Polish originally
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Jun 27, 2023 22:21
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Pot Smoke Phoenix posted:Serious question- is there a saying or a proverb or something in Russia that more or less equates to "If you think what I did was dumb, it is you who are stupid" or something like that? Maybe "yrittänyttä ei laiteta"? If you try something your are not expected to try again if you fail or don't really achieve the original goal, but you should be lauded for the attempt. But that's Finnish. Don't know if it has a Russian version.
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Jun 27, 2023 22:32
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Pot Smoke Phoenix posted:Serious question- is there a saying or a proverb or something in Russia that more or less equates to "If you think what I did was dumb, it is you who are stupid" or something like that? Not quite what you had in mind but this seems appropriate anyway: Дураков не сеют, не жнут, сами родятся (Durakov nye seyut, nye zhnut, sami rodyatsya) Means "fools are neither sown nor reaped, they grow all by themselves"
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Jun 27, 2023 22:36
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Sashimi posted:lmao Shoigu's a weeb
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Jun 27, 2023 22:45
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Dr. Quarex posted:Accuse him of war crimes all you want but he IS Tuvan and that looks Tuvan enough for government work I actually want to applaud the guy for building stuff that is Tuvan architecture, not just some random stupid Versailles-copy like Putin did to Sochi.
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Jun 27, 2023 22:48
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Yeah, I'm sure Putin would want his special guards, and his intelligence services and let's not forget nuclear weapons and their associated launch platforms to work efficently and competently and be corruption free. But that's not how that works. When you turn your entire country into a corrupt basket case you can't magically exempt the poo poo you actually want to work properly from the crippling graft.
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Jun 27, 2023 23:12
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Pot Smoke Phoenix posted:Serious question- is there a saying or a proverb or something in Russia that more or less equates to "If you think what I did was dumb, it is you who are stupid" or something like that? "A ruskie is a ruskie even if you roast one in butter" isn't what you're after but that's just something that comes to mind whenever Russia does its thing. My granddad used to say that when the news brodacst in Finland had a piece re: whatever they did so pls don't bloodlust probe me, I doubt he ever cooked one but being a machinegun man he got to familiar with many.
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Jun 27, 2023 23:19
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Deptfordx posted:Yeah, I'm sure Putin would want his special guards, and his intelligence services and let's not forget nuclear weapons and their associated launch platforms to work efficently and competently and be corruption free. What are you talking about, everyone is corrupt everywhere, only children believe in fairy stories about efficiency and duty. You keep people in line with threats and you let your friends wet their beak, how else can a society function? A real man hustles and bends the rules for profit, only the weak refuse. Russia is basically if “Donnie Brasco” was a country.
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Jun 27, 2023 23:24
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Horrorosaurus posted:"A ruskie is a ruskie even if you roast one in butter" isn't what you're after but that's just something that comes to mind whenever Russia does its thing. The shorter "Ryssä on aina ryssä", "Ruskie is always a ruskie" has resurfaced in Finland, as there are many people who (rightfully) associate this war in Ukraine with the Winter War. To not sound like a massive racist, the Finnish people believed and hoped to very very large extent that now that USSR collapsed, we could have a normal neighbor, with whom we could do business, science and cooperation with. In March 2022 this all collapsed, showing that our ~30 year policies of trying to help and understand did jack poo poo. So there is a quite large amount of bitterness going on, in addition of actual security concerns. Der Kyhe fucked around with this message at 23:28 on Jun 27, 2023 |
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Jun 27, 2023 23:24
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Ah, hadn't considered this particular point. But he's stronger for it! https://twitter.com/sevslv/status/1673758803253141523?cxt=HHwWpoCxue-wsbouAAAA
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Jun 27, 2023 23:31
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Okay so how do we know that Wagner wasn't actually secretly doing anti partisan work? I mean they are on the state pay roll so it's Not a coup!!!!!!!
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Jun 27, 2023 23:37
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Pot Smoke Phoenix posted:Serious question- is there a saying or a proverb or something in Russia that more or less equates to "If you think what I did was dumb, it is you who are stupid" or something like that? honi soit qui mal y pense 
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Jun 27, 2023 23:42
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In an alternate timeline, a Prighozin-Furry-FSB triumvirate has taken over the Russian Federation: https://twitter.com/ChrisO_wiki/status/1673803622142836737?t=IHnMUb9O3cA9l5yONMh-aw&s=19
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Jun 27, 2023 23:53
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CSM posted:In an alternate timeline, a Prighozin-Furry-FSB triumvirate has taken over the Russian Federation: Breaking: Unknown fifth columnists accused of arming Russian furries have eluded capture and are being sought for questioning.
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Jun 28, 2023 00:16
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Dunno if this was posted before, but if it was, my apologies. I just like this breakdown of how things went down this weekend. https://imgur.com/gallery/dzs5P6C
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