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err
Apr 11, 2005

I carry my own weight no matter how heavy this shit gets...

Paradoxish posted:

if everyone becomes a landlord then we've solved poverty

UBI but everyone is given 1 rental property

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actionjackson
Jan 12, 2003

they are building apartments in a suburb here with some units for low-income renters

quote:

The building's affordable apartments will be priced at just less than $1,400 per month for a one-bedroom to $1,938 for a three-bedroom.

when i had a one bedroom here in 2010 it was 900/month

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud
Apr 7, 2003


actionjackson posted:

they are building apartments in a suburb here with some units for low-income renters

when i had a one bedroom here in 2010 it was 900/month

The new 1br price there is twice my existing mortgage and 57% of my new mortgage for a 2200 square foot victorian

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud
Apr 7, 2003


https://www.post-gazette.com/busine...es/202306270059

quote:

'A recipe for disaster:' Residents oppose eight-story housing complex near Frick Park

The rallying cry around Swisshelm Park these days is “No Frick’n Way.”

It’s a slogan that seems to aptly sum up how some residents feel about a proposed eight-story, 160-unit residential complex that is to be built at the former Irish Centre less than a mile away in neighboring Squirrel Hill.

They have launched a petition drive in a bid to block the project and have created flyers and a Frick Park Friends website with the slogan to explain their opposition, much of which centers on traffic, safety and concerns about the impact to Frick Park, which borders the site.

“Frick Park Friends ... is not anti-development. But we believe in development that makes sense and this development on that parcel of land does not make sense,” said Vicki Yann, a Swisshelm Park resident who lives minutes from the Irish Centre.


It's like the mob, every homeowner gets their hands dirty and gets involved in loving over the have-nots

dxt
Mar 27, 2004
METAL DISCHARGE

actionjackson posted:

they are building apartments in a suburb here with some units for low-income renters

when i had a one bedroom here in 2010 it was 900/month

I had a 2 BR in a duplex for $1400/month just last year in uptown Minneapolis.

shrike82
Jun 11, 2005

https://twitter.com/bonappetit/status/1672987945534455808?s=20

Grapplejack
Nov 27, 2007

https://twitter.com/nickgerli1/status/1673774695693385728

Good news

Twerk from Home
Jan 17, 2009

This avatar brought to you by the 'save our dead gay forums' foundation.
The next post is the more interesting one:
https://twitter.com/nickgerli1/status/1673775106793828352?s=20

There are so many Airbnbs. gently caress them all.

euphronius
Feb 18, 2009

holy hell that graph

fart simpson
Jul 2, 2005

DEATH TO AMERICA
:xickos:

how am i supposed to get ahead now?

Bar Ran Dun
Jan 22, 2006




euphronius posted:

holy hell that graph

yeah that’s a real Holy gently caress of a graph there.

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud
Apr 7, 2003


Twerk from Home posted:

The next post is the more interesting one:
https://twitter.com/nickgerli1/status/1673775106793828352?s=20

There are so many Airbnbs. gently caress them all.

The neighborhood I'm in is not cool in any way, about 3/4ths of a square mile, and has ~40 active airbnbs

airbnb has utterly loving ruined the housing market via the most destructive force there is, individual self-interest

spacemang_spliff
Nov 29, 2014

wide pickle

Twerk from Home posted:

The next post is the more interesting one:
https://twitter.com/nickgerli1/status/1673775106793828352?s=20

There are so many Airbnbs. gently caress them all.

Good I hope it collapses and every single Airbnb owner has to sell at a loss

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud
Apr 7, 2003


spacemang_spliff posted:

Good I hope it collapses and every single Airbnb owner has to sell at a loss

This would actually be a positive situation for young Americans so it would never be allowed to happen.

biceps crimes
Apr 12, 2008


Twerk from Home posted:

The next post is the more interesting one:
https://twitter.com/nickgerli1/status/1673775106793828352?s=20

There are so many Airbnbs. gently caress them all.

I'm in Austin about 2 miles away from downtown and probably 30% of the houses near me are Airbnbs. Theres a big airbnb behind me and the owners are old boomers and are constantly renting it out to groups of women all going WOOOOO or men going YEEAAAH until 2am. I think I'd be near about good if all of these fuckers lost their poo poo and sold, i don't give a gently caress about equity or my house price

I hate Airbnb so much

sonatinas
Apr 15, 2003

Seattle Karate Vs. L.A. Karate
that Sevierville graph is nuts. I guess it’s for pigeon forge/gatlinburg people?

euphronius
Feb 18, 2009

who is renting all of these

I don’t understand it

fart simpson
Jul 2, 2005

DEATH TO AMERICA
:xickos:

euphronius posted:

who is renting all of these

I don’t understand it

me

Twerk from Home
Jan 17, 2009

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euphronius posted:

who is renting all of these

I don’t understand it

I lived next to two airbnbs for a few years and it sucked.

It was bachelorette parties mostly, and sometimes a bachelor party. One time the guests smashed the place up so bad that there were two broken TVs on the curb after the cleaners turned and a drywall repair crew came.

Every guest screamed "WOOOOOOO" after midnight. Sometimes they'd leave beer on the curb when they left, but usually it was terrible beer. I did get 3/4 case of PBR once.

Demon Of The Fall
May 1, 2004

Nap Ghost
if Nashville is down then you know its bad

UKJeff
May 17, 2023

by vyelkin

Twerk from Home posted:

The next post is the more interesting one:
https://twitter.com/nickgerli1/status/1673775106793828352?s=20

There are so many Airbnbs. gently caress them all.

I checked airbnb a few days ago to see about renting something for Fourth of July and 1/2 of the listings were single rooms or guest houses. I don’t think those are all discrete saleable domiciles

Bar Ran Dun
Jan 22, 2006




euphronius posted:

who is renting all of these

I don’t understand it

hotels largely poo poo the bed and were lovely, expensive, and not what people wanted.

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

Bar Ran Dun posted:

hotels largely poo poo the bed and were lovely, expensive, and not what people wanted.

hotels are definitely the better option for solo travel but for groups/party weekends i totally get the airbnb draw. i just want to make it illegal

ProperGanderPusher
Jan 13, 2012




sonatinas posted:

that Sevierville graph is nuts. I guess it’s for pigeon forge/gatlinburg people?

My Boomer in-laws go every year when they can and use their timeshare. They have to reserve a unit like a year in advance and sometimes even then there’s no vacancies. Doesn’t surprise me in the least it’s a hotspot for airbnbs.

I always liked the NC side of the mountains more, personally. Way less of a grotesque tourist trap.

anonumos
Jul 14, 2005

Fuck it.

sonatinas posted:

that Sevierville graph is nuts. I guess it’s for pigeon forge/gatlinburg people?

Yes. Sevierville, Pigeon Forge, and Gatlinburg are basically suburbs of Dollywood. I've stayed in all three to go to the Smokies (and oddly enough never went to Dollywood). It takes all of 30 minutes to drive through them all (in the off season). Gatlinburg is restaurants and a river. PF is closest to Dollywood, I think, and is arcades, country gift shops and go karts. And Sevierville is where you go when the hotels are overbooked (and to get groceries).

anonumos has issued a correction as of 04:39 on Jun 28, 2023

actionjackson
Jan 12, 2003

i say swears online posted:

hotels are definitely the better option for solo travel but for groups/party weekends i totally get the airbnb draw. i just want to make it illegal

i would say hotels have too many amenities for solo travel on a budget. i just want a tiny room with a bed and a bathroom, that's it. i had an airbnb in paris like that and it was $30/night. right by the eiffel tower and everything

fart simpson
Jul 2, 2005

DEATH TO AMERICA
:xickos:

actionjackson posted:

i would say hotels have too many amenities for solo travel on a budget. i just want a tiny room with a bed and a bathroom, that's it. i had an airbnb in paris like that and it was $30/night. right by the eiffel tower and everything

ever heard of a budget hotel?

The Oldest Man
Jul 28, 2003

Any stats on what % of those airbnb listings are for an entire house? Those are the ones that are going to get trashed first and hardest by price pressure.

BULBASAUR
Apr 6, 2009




Soiled Meat
I hate hotels and airbnbs for different reasons

Blackhawk
Nov 15, 2004

I stayed in an air bnb in Colorado springs recently as it was the cheapest option and we were on a work trip with a shoestring budget. It was basically a converted basement under another house which was also an air bnb rented out separately. You could hear literally every footstep from the property above.

On the day before we were going to fly out some guy who was renting the property above told us he was going to have a party and then from the sounds of it proceeded to move literally every piece of furniture up there before absolutely blasting out music (the air bnb's both had no party policies but lol). We both hosed off from there to an actual hotel and got our money back from the air bnb landlord, no way could we deal with that after a brutal week and before a 16 hour flight.

UKJeff
May 17, 2023

by vyelkin

fart simpson posted:

ever heard of a budget hotel?

No what’s that

Angrymantium
Jul 19, 2007
Resistant to everything

Oww My Eye posted:

We were fortunate enough to buy last year, and at every step, the mortgage guy kept trying to sell us on a variable rate mortgage. So there’s a lot of pressure on home buyers that may not be familiar with what went down in 2008.

I'm a few days late to this post but I underwrote mortgage loans until summer of 2022 and the reason for pushing ARMs is more that people mostly don't want to buy at current fixed rates, and lenders are hurting for volume. It doesn't matter since you bought anyway, but a lot of loan officers have gotten used to potential buyers vanishing into thin air the moment someone shows them current fixed rate options, whereas there's a good amount of people willing to bet that they can get a cheap intro rate and refinance within five years before the adjustable rate gets jacked up.

All of the US economy is a stupid inefficient casino anyway, why wouldn't the housing market be the same thing?

sonatinas
Apr 15, 2003

Seattle Karate Vs. L.A. Karate
I would develop an anxiety disorder if I even tried to play the ARM game.

Acelerion
May 3, 2005

Housing prices in east tennessee have been absolutely bonkers due to people moving to the area post 2020. Also I kind of think the pandemic created a renewed interest in outdoor activity. The area is crowded with residents and tourists alike.

I get real discouraged looking at houses and seeing a place that sold in 2019 for 350k being listed (and selling) for 700-800k.

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud
Apr 7, 2003


Acelerion posted:

Housing prices in east tennessee have been absolutely bonkers due to people moving to the area post 2020. Also I kind of think the pandemic created a renewed interest in outdoor activity. The area is crowded with residents and tourists alike.

That lasted around here until the restaurants opened back up in August 2020, the hiking and biking trails emptied out overnight

External Organs
Mar 3, 2006

One time i prank called a bear buildin workshop and said I wanted my mamaws ashes put in a teddy from where she loved them things so well... The woman on the phone did not skip a beat. She just said, "Brang her on down here. We've did it before."
Posting from an airbnb, we aren't hooting at our neighbors though

anonumos
Jul 14, 2005

Fuck it.

External Organs posted:

Posting from an airbnb, we aren't hooting at our neighbors though

Why not?

sonatinas
Apr 15, 2003

Seattle Karate Vs. L.A. Karate

Acelerion posted:

Housing prices in east tennessee have been absolutely bonkers due to people moving to the area post 2020. Also I kind of think the pandemic created a renewed interest in outdoor activity. The area is crowded with residents and tourists alike.

I get real discouraged looking at houses and seeing a place that sold in 2019 for 350k being listed (and selling) for 700-800k.

my crypto brained cousin in law moved out there due to some crypto community that is being formed in rural east TN. I haven’t been able to get more information because dude gets easily spooked if I ask one question deeper.

I went to college in Knoxville and I would have never imagined it got that expensive since Asheville is the pricier side of the NC/TN divide.

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud
Apr 7, 2003




This is located in one of the most depressed places in America, with a median household income of around $30K. The real estate investors were never going to stop at ruining the cities, they are going to find any and every stone with the slightest bit of blood to be squeezed out of.

e: It's not even a flip, they're just taking grandma's house and jacking the price up.

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spacemang_spliff
Nov 29, 2014

wide pickle

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:



This is located in one of the most depressed places in America, with a median household income of around $30K. The real estate investors were never going to stop at ruining the cities, they are going to find any and every stone with the slightest bit of blood to be squeezed out of.

e: It's not even a flip, they're just taking grandma's house and jacking the price up.

i hope some airbnb investor gets washed on it

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