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kalel posted:off the top of my head: static shock, electro, miles morales spiderman But how else could the audience tell that they're black!!!
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Has Black Manta ever taken his helmet off?
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Jun 28, 2023 13:57
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Black Noir is white in The Boys comic but I guess he's Black in the show
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Jun 28, 2023 14:01
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Pope Corky the IX posted:Has Black Manta ever taken his helmet off? literally how he's introduced
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Jun 28, 2023 14:02
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we already have black superman 
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Alan Smithee posted:literally how he's introduced Like when you meet him at a party?
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Jun 28, 2023 14:05
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idr it's been a while he's in a father son mercenary thing
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Jun 28, 2023 14:11
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kalel posted:off the top of my head: static shock, electro, miles morales spiderman Internet nerd media expert Seanbaby once commented that if Steve Rogers was created as a black character he wouldn't be a captain. He would be "Blackman America" and fight crime in a disco.
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Jun 28, 2023 14:25
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kalel posted:off the top of my head: static shock, electro, miles morales spiderman Black Adam is Egyptian, but not usually portrayed as black.
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Jun 28, 2023 15:04
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kalel posted:off the top of my head: static shock, electro, miles morales spiderman "Electric black super hero" is such a trope that Irredeemable joked about it: 
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Jun 28, 2023 15:26
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How did that happen btw? Are there any theories on why "African-American Superhero Has Electrical Powers" became a thing?
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Jun 28, 2023 16:49
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:How did that happen btw? Are there any theories on why "African-American Superhero Has Electrical Powers" became a thing? It was in the post that pretty much started the discussion in the first place: marshmallow creep posted:I had heard of this guy, but I didn't know that DC almost used him with complete sincerity until after watching this video.
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Jun 28, 2023 16:59
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According to several articles (and TVTropes who of course have a page for this), it was due to rights issues: Black Lightning was created in the 70s and was one of the first black superheroes. However, due to royalties issues, DC got into the habit of just creating knockoffs whenever they wanted to add him to non comics adaptations, hence stuff like Black Vulcan in Superfriends and Juice in Justice League Unlimited. From that point, other comics just jumped on the trend.
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Jun 28, 2023 17:01
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I think its mainly because Black Lightning was one of the first black superheroes and DC likes expanding a heroes retinue and supporting cast with younger heroes with similar abilities. There's also that at the same time companies were adding more black characters to the roster there was a general movement to more grounded origins and studies about bio-electrics were gaining some attention in pop culture.
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Jun 28, 2023 17:08
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKbGnzmidsw
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Jun 28, 2023 17:19
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Another longstanding mystery solved. Thanks y'all!
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Jun 28, 2023 17:23
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As a coda to the discussion, you'd think that the "black electric superhero" has finally died down...then you remember that the current most popular black superhero Miles Morales can ALSO shoot electricity from his hands. Funny how he's usually left out of these discussions.
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Jun 28, 2023 17:39
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Wasn't Electro just in the latest Spider-Man movie?
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Jun 28, 2023 17:45
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Macdeo Lurjtux posted:I think its mainly because Black Lightning was one of the first black superheroes and DC likes expanding a heroes retinue and supporting cast with younger heroes with similar abilities. Black Lightning was also creator owned, and why pay royalties?
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Jun 28, 2023 17:47
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Pope Corky the IX posted:Wasn't Electro just in the latest Spider-Man movie?
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I'm learning so much.
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AceOfFlames posted:As a coda to the discussion, you'd think that the "black electric superhero" has finally died down...then you remember that the current most popular black superhero Miles Morales can ALSO shoot electricity from his hands. Funny how he's usually left out of these discussions. It's very concerning that 'spider powers' include the ability to turn invisible and shoot electricity.
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Jun 28, 2023 21:12
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I imagine it's related to the same thing "spidey sense" refers to, spiders being sensitive to static electricity and magnetic currents or whatever.
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Jun 28, 2023 21:20
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Byzantine posted:It's very concerning that 'spider powers' include the ability to turn invisible and shoot electricity. Hey, don't worry about the invisible, sleeping people eating, electric shooting, spiders. They're invisible, so it's like they're not even there!
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Jun 28, 2023 21:22
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Byzantine posted:It's very concerning that 'spider powers' include the ability to turn invisible and shoot electricity. Spiders are stealthy and they bite
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Jun 28, 2023 21:25
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…the proportional eye beams and ice breath of a spider…
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Jun 28, 2023 21:27
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His electricity powers are called “Venom” so I think that’s the angle they’re going with
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Jun 28, 2023 22:08
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RatHat posted:His electricity powers are called “Venom” so I think that’s the angle they’re going with That's not an angle, that's not knowing what words mean.
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Jun 28, 2023 22:22
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dr_rat posted:That's not an angle, that's not knowing what words mean. I think they're going more for the character--the alien symbiote--not actual venom.
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Jun 29, 2023 00:45
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I remember reading a quote from Stan Lee when Miles Morales became ultimate Spiderman, and he said something like, “I think it’s great that they’re doing a black Spiderman. I wouldn’t have killed the other Spiderman. I’d have made the new Spiderman one of his friends, and I’d have given him a name like ‘the Black Spider’ and they would fight crime together before he got his own comic!” It’s a wonderful quote because that’s exactly what Stan would have done, except his comic would have died in ten issues.
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Jun 29, 2023 01:00
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Pope Corky the IX posted:Has Black Manta ever taken his helmet off? Black Manta was created in the 60s but wasn't unmasked until 1977, when they decided to make him African-American ("Why do you think they call me Black Manta?").
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Macdeo Lurjtux posted:I think its mainly because Black Lightning was one of the first black superheroes and DC likes expanding a heroes retinue and supporting cast with younger heroes with similar abilities. AceOfFlames posted:According to several articles (and TVTropes who of course have a page for this), it was due to rights issues: Black Lightning was created in the 70s and was one of the first black superheroes. However, due to royalties issues, DC got into the habit of just creating knockoffs whenever they wanted to add him to non comics adaptations, hence stuff like Black Vulcan in Superfriends and Juice in Justice League Unlimited. From that point, other comics just jumped on the trend. It's basically a mix of this and what amounts to a good natured meme about enough unrelated black characters with electric powers both old and new, Storm being another unrelated example going way back, and even Naruto apparently has a country that's majority black and has a lot of people with electric powers. And then there's the Garfield movies version of Electro.
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Jun 29, 2023 08:58
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Ghost Leviathan posted:And then there's the Garfield movies version of Electro. Legit spent a minute googling about Garfield's Pet Force to see what they did for Electro before I realized what you meant lol
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Tars Tarkas posted:Legit spent a minute googling about Garfield's Pet Force to see what they did for Electro before I realized what you meant lol I remember that on the old official Garfield website! So amazingly 90s.
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I AM GRANDO posted:I remember reading a quote from Stan Lee when Miles Morales became ultimate Spiderman, and he said something like, “I think it’s great that they’re doing a black Spiderman. I wouldn’t have killed the other Spiderman. I’d have made the new Spiderman one of his friends, and I’d have given him a name like ‘the Black Spider’ and they would fight crime together before he got his own comic!” Lol what an amazing quote, and example of crystalized unintentional racism
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Jun 29, 2023 11:19
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McSpanky posted:Black Manta was created in the 60s but wasn't unmasked until 1977, when they decided to make him African-American ("Why do you think they call me Black Manta?"). It was a stupid question to ask for a guy who dresses in black.
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Black Canary was a white lady but then they made her black in the Harley Quinn movie so I don’t know what’s up now.
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Black Manta was my fav part of Aquaman, everything about him, and him not being in the last act absolutely hurt the film
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They should give Spider-Man's Black Cat electric powers, no reasons given.
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