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So...the side chick has completely turned against him? am I seeing that right?
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Jun 29, 2023 05:38
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What’s sad is his fans aren’t going to turn on him for this. They’ll just go “lol based”
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Jun 29, 2023 06:14
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Can't stop, won't stop (stepping on rakes)
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Jun 29, 2023 06:23
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Jun 29, 2023 06:28
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Happy Landfill posted:So...the side chick has completely turned against him? am I seeing that right? Side chick thought she was main chick because Vic kept referring to actual main chick as his ex. Side chick asks Vic to please clarify things on stream, because it's harming her rep and Vic goes "can't I just say you're a delusional fan?" And on stream Vic goes "oh, she's just an acquaintance." So now side chick is mad and upset and working through it and dropping fat Vic receipts everywhere.
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Jun 29, 2023 07:37
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https://twitter.com/statestace/status/1674206021311512576 Whomever talked about his fans not caring nailed that. "YES THAT IS SO TRUE, WE'RE HUMAN."
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Jun 29, 2023 10:22
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He should be forced to wear a hat that says "Pobady's Nerfect" for the rest of his life.
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Jun 29, 2023 10:44
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Dawgstar posted:https://twitter.com/statestace/status/1674206021311512576 I won't stop until he gives an apology video with a slide whistle.
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Jun 29, 2023 18:00
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Caros posted:I won't stop until he gives an apology video with a slide whistle. Maybe it's like a 10,000 channel point redeem.
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Jun 29, 2023 19:10
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vic almost certainly would have got some money from ron toye (or at least got him and rial to shut up about all the sexual harassment he's done) if he initially hired a someone half as competent at reputation management as Camille Vasquez instead of a wills and trusts attorney i imagine every rich dirtbag on the planet is ringing her phone off the wall, tho.
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Jun 29, 2023 19:42
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Nah, Toye has, through this entire thing been almost clinically unable to shut up. Ain't no way, no matter how good a lawyer Vic got, that Toye would be silenced.
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Jun 29, 2023 20:20
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I mean, why should he shut up?
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Jun 29, 2023 21:09
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Sometimes talking too much about the case can hurt the case. Obviously there was so little case here that he's probably safe, but if there'd been any real case against him, he could've put himself in some real-rear end financial peril.
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Mors Rattus posted:I mean, why should he shut up? basically anyone with any skill at defamation defense or PR/reputation management would have been smart enough to use "vic's" (but actually probably nick and ty's) warchest to settle with toye/rial/Mari Iijima to keep this out of discovery. his own deposition is what really doomed vic's career, not ron toye's tweets. this entire case was an oscar wilde-level example of "Don't sue for defamation if it's true!" Exercu posted:Sometimes talking too much about the case can hurt the case. Obviously there was so little case here that he's probably safe, but if there'd been any real case against him, he could've put himself in some real-rear end financial peril. TenementFunster fucked around with this message at 22:17 on Jun 29, 2023 |
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Eh, falsity's not the only relevant thing. Even if it weren't true, there's no such thing as "sufficient" knowledge in the actual malice standard. Being a credulous moron is never defamatory when it's about a public figure. It's true though that the deposition was a complete killshot and only an imbecile would let the plaintiff in a defamation suit sit for a deposition with the TCPA looming over their heads.
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Exercu posted:Eh, falsity's not the only relevant thing. Even if it weren't true, there's no such thing as "sufficient" knowledge in the actual malice standard. Being a credulous moron is never defamatory when it's about a public figure. anyone with vic's crowd-sourced piggy bank and anything like competence would have had a great chance to make toye/rial go away. hell, stormy daniels took $130k from a guy who was way more famous and way wealthier for a way more salacious story!
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My point is ore that, sure, in another reality where anyone competent was on Vic’s side, sure, shutting up might be a good idea. We don’t live in that one.
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Exercu posted:Side chick thought she was main chick because Vic kept referring to actual main chick as his ex. loving incredible  for about as long as I've been aware of Vic he has always had his one girlfriend, and later wife, which made this chick sitting there and acting like his one and only pretty funny to say the least. He was straight up calling his wife his ex, what an rear end in a top hat. Girl, get a divorce, you absolutely don't need to put up with that poo poo
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Happy Landfill posted:loving incredible Well, in his deposition he did casually admit to cheating on his wife for almost the entirety of his relationship almost any chance he could get sex (usually at or through conventions I think)
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MechaX posted:Well, in his deposition he did casually admit to cheating on his wife for almost the entirety of his relationship almost any chance he could get sex (usually at or through conventions I think) I remember that.  I am Jack's complete lack of surprise
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Did anything ever come of Ty Beard forging Vic's signature a few years back at the near beginning of this mess?
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TenementFunster posted:i'm not a defamation expert by any means, but I could see an argument for actual malice where someone doesn't actually know if something/many somethings are true but tweet like they are anyway with the intent to harm someone's reputation/career. i think even ron toye would admit that he was stirring poo poo up because he rightfully had malicious feelings about vic and was trying to get him blackballed. but i'm talking less about the black letter law and more about what scumbags can get away with when an attorney threatens/pays people to shut up. No, that's probably not going to be enough. Actual Malice has nothing to do with being malicious, it has to do whether you believe what you're saying. Actual malice requires a subjective belief that either what you're publishing is false, or that you had strong subjective doubts as to their accuracy. The second part of that is St. Amant v. Thompson (The reckless disregard for truth element in defamation claims requires a plaintiff to show that the defendant had serious doubts about the accuracy of the material.) So it is *not* sufficient that Toye doesn't know that it's true, they need evidence that Toye subjectively thought it was probably false, but tweeted it out anyway. It's a high-rear end bar. Happy Landfill posted:loving incredible Oh, no, that was Michele Specht, who was his fiancée and left him because he was cheating on her (with a whole bunch of people) including with his current girlfriend, Haileigh something or other, who he then cheated on with aspiring porn actress Farah Fatherless while claiming Haileigh was his ex, and now said aspiring porn actress is on the war path. Real life really out here trying to compete with the most salacious telenovelas, I swear. Exercu fucked around with this message at 08:32 on Jun 30, 2023 |
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https://twitter.com/farahfatherless/status/1674799632621387779 loving hell the target was MarzGurl
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MechaX posted:https://twitter.com/farahfatherless/status/1674799632621387779 N.B.: Twitter turned on a login wall this morning. It may be useful to use Nitter to punch through when/if it's working (ex: https://nitter.net/farahfatherless/status/1674799632621387779), and/or to screencap for posterity. Cassius Belli fucked around with this message at 19:42 on Jun 30, 2023 |
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MechaX posted:https://twitter.com/farahfatherless/status/1674799632621387779 Interesting play to get the police to help you prove that you conspired to murder someone. Does being in Vic's presence just naturally destroy your brain?
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Gyges posted:Interesting play to get the police to help you prove that you conspired to murder someone. Does being in Vic's presence just naturally destroy your brain? I mean even if they both go to jail one of them is far more likely to die miserable and alone in his prison cell than another just based on age alone.
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Also by stepping forward with evidence, she could potentially get a plea bargain for a reduced sentence
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Waffleman_ posted:Also by stepping forward with evidence, she could potentially get a plea bargain for a reduced sentence While true, until she came forward nobody was even looking for a dumb as gently caress murder plot. Surely Vic has done other completely moronic and embarrassing/illegal things within her documentational power that don't also find her lawyer shopping.
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Gyges posted:While true, until she came forward nobody was even looking for a dumb as gently caress murder plot. Surely Vic has done other completely moronic and embarrassing/illegal things within her documentational power that don't also find her lawyer shopping. It is entirely possible that once freed from his cult of influence she feels genuine regret and wants to make a threat known before someone actually does get hurt.
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Gyges posted:While true, until she came forward nobody was even looking for a dumb as gently caress murder plot. Surely Vic has done other completely moronic and embarrassing/illegal things within her documentational power that don't also find her lawyer shopping. The only reason this is even unraveling now is because Vic pissed her off; Vic's never going to stop preying on people and it was only a matter of time until he did convince someone willing to do this poo poo unconditionally (and they kind of have a paper trail already and she probably wanted to pull the ripcord now before poo poo goes south and someone comes back to her after the fact asking questions)
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I do wonder if anything will come from this. Still utterly bonkers.
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Have proceedings reached the point yet where Vic has had to pay out for anything? I was given to understand he'd moved some assets around, like selling his house to his mom to try and counter it, but didn't know how well that would work.
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Dawgstar posted:Have proceedings reached the point yet where Vic has had to pay out for anything? I was given to understand he'd moved some assets around, like selling his house to his mom to try and counter it, but didn't know how well that would work. Courts usually suplex you into the basement for doing that to escape judgement.
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Midjack posted:Courts usually suplex you into the basement for doing that to escape judgement. I’d imagine that goes doubly so when you’re the plaintiff?
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He hasn’t had to pay poo poo because we’re still in appeals, I’m pretty sure.
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Mors Rattus posted:He hasn’t had to pay poo poo because we’re still in appeals, I’m pretty sure. It got kicked back to trial court after Vic got blown up all the way up to the Texas Supreme Court He hasn't paid yet because the only issue left to litigate is the fact that Vic needs to pay even more in attorneys fees to one of the attorneys, and the question is how much more
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Exercu posted:So it is *not* sufficient that Toye doesn't know that it's true, they need evidence that Toye subjectively thought it was probably false, but tweeted it out anyway. It's a high-rear end bar. vic might have actually had something - or at least a colorable argument - if it wasn't for nick and ty bead's absolute incompetence in legal strategy, subject knowledge, and even basic court procedure (still loling that ty submitted documents to the court that he notarized fraudulently). vic has a great malpractice claim.
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Look who are we getting to revoice his performances when we damnatio memoriae this dude?
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Wasabi the J posted:Look who are we getting to revoice his performances when we damnatio memoriae this dude?
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