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The new MD's satisfied me pretty well. It's great and I'm excited for hard mode. The only thing I want is a bit more coherence in the adventure. Integrated Strategies - the Arknights game mode that they're pretty clearly inspired by - has its seasons all carry a theme. The original Integrated Strategies mode was literally a drug trip one of the characters was having, the second was a gothic-themed investigation of a mysterious castle being inhabited by a group of theatrical assassins called the Crimson Troupe, the third (and current in the English release) is basically Call of Cthulhu where the horrors known only as the Seaborne rise from the depths to take over the world and assimilate all surface life, and the fourth (only in the original Chinese version for now) is a corporate-sponsored expedition to the demon-infested arctic. Despite being basically the same game mode (and sharing a lot of the same stages) the different trappings do a lot to make each theme feel fresh and unique. Basically, having a coherent theme to tie together the story of your adventure does quite a lot to help the...fantasy, for a lack of a better term. At the moment we're kind of just floating through an unreal space, running into old foes and occasionally encountering an Abnormality, and it all feels kind of incoherent and aimless, especially if you compare it to the main game dungeons. What I'd really like to see is a specific adventure with events that tie together - whether it's trying to survive the Night in the Backstreets, delving the Ruins, or even taking on the Library.
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I dunno if this was always a thing but I think EGO passives don't vanish between fights in the mirror dungeon At the very least I was given notifications about Sunshower's passive like multiple fights after I used it Relatedly, poor N Sinclair
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Yinlock posted:I dunno if this was always a thing but I think EGO passives don't vanish between fights in the mirror dungeon I went to verify this with an EGO that shows obvious result, Faust's Fluid Sac which applies 2 protection to the ally with the lowest hp. The protection didn't show up in the next fight, unfortunately. I don't know what happened with your run.
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Ariamaki posted:I love the new Mirror Dungeon SO MUCH. Oh does the weekly bonus stack? I thought it was just that hard mode dungeon had a separate weekly bonus
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Yinlock posted:I dunno if this was always a thing but I think EGO passives don't vanish between fights in the mirror dungeon It might have been the Sunshower EGO gift that was activating, since I didn't notice EGO passives activating (I used Fausts basic EGO in a few fights, and I only got Ennui in those fights, not others). Also N Sinclair is kinda bad in MD 2 in general, because all the later enemies are level 35 (or maybe even higher? I didn't check), so he gets SP for killing them and maybe for allies killing them.
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Marluxia posted:I went to verify this with an EGO that shows obvious result, Faust's Fluid Sac which applies 2 protection to the ally with the lowest hp. The protection didn't show up in the next fight, unfortunately. I don't know what happened with your run. CountDuckoo posted:It might have been the Sunshower EGO gift that was activating, since I didn't notice EGO passives activating (I used Fausts basic EGO in a few fights, and I only got Ennui in those fights, not others). oh yeah just remembered I did get the gift, my bad
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Looking at some of these Starter Bonuses for Mirror Dungeon #2, I wonder if you're able to turn them off - otherwise, the left path seems like it would hurt the performance for low-Sanity IDs and low-health IDs such as the Shi Association.
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pizzabutt posted:Oh does the weekly bonus stack? I thought it was just that hard mode dungeon had a separate weekly bonus Hard runs have a separate weekly CAP: You can only claim rewards from a Hard run 3 times a week period, bonus or not. Then it stacks with the normal weekly MD bonus to yield 75 Bus Pass pips, which is probably exactly why they added this toggle. Two quality of life notes, one small and one big: (At least some of the) EGO Encounter effects that claim to be "for the next battle" actually ARE only for the next single battle now, so the Fiery Down event that gives you -1 Skill Power is no longer a 'blow your own legs off' button. I haven't gotten a chance to test this with the positive equivalents like Tour Guide Robot's permanent +2 speed, but they're likely fixed as well. I really like the way the Bus Pass pips tally up now with the cute sounds and animation, especially after a Mirror when you're getting many levels at once.
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Mirror dungeon 2 is very cool. Gonna have to get the new sinclair though, low-sanity IDs just synergize way too poorly with too many things.
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and anyway talismanclair seems neat also, benching g gregor goes a long, long way towards keeping chip damage off unless and until you pull an ego gift to do the job e: kong lu's bench passive looks Actively Bad lol Goatse James Bond fucked around with this message at 21:55 on Jun 29, 2023 |
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fyi if you scroll down on the dispenser, it offers more than one EGO gift for sale
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Google Jeb Bush posted:and anyway talismanclair seems neat K Hong Lu's whole kit is designed for a game where HP Stagger doesn't exist. I'm not sure how they expected him to work out other than "mediocre rupture or immediate stagger spiral" e: though i'm not sure you un-stagger if you heal back above the threshold, i'm guessing "no" Ariamaki posted:I really like the way the Bus Pass pips tally up now with the cute sounds and animation, especially after a Mirror when you're getting many levels at once. the boops annoy the hell out of me tbh Yinlock fucked around with this message at 00:12 on Jun 30, 2023 |
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The best use I have seen for green hong lu is solo boss fights. Between the Id and passenger ego he basically can't die before he kills whatever he's fighting. Outside that he has ok numbers but nothing that would make you pick it over ting tang or kurokumo
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Today's mirror dungeon boss was Capote, which for some reason only had ~500 hp, so 1/3rd of the fairy drink fatman and thus died immediately 
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RoyalScion posted:Today's mirror dungeon boss was Capote, which for some reason only had ~500 hp, so 1/3rd of the fairy drink fatman and thus died immediately mine was the centipede and it wasn't too bad until i hosed up the final phase and didn't clash it's struggle attacks and got rodya killed Google Jeb Bush posted:and anyway talismanclair seems neat rb chef gregor also helps with healing except it's with lust instead of gluttony, and it has the synergy with rb ryoshu! Either way gregor with one of his healing bench passives is definitely a first buy from the shops in mirror dungeon 2
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Quick question, how are you supposed to deal with ALEPHs? Cuz I got Censored and it keep taking away a chunk of sanity on top of being extremly hard to work with. Like, it breached once, I send a bunch of agent to kill it and they all got crazy and died.
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Google Jeb Bush posted:and anyway talismanclair seems neat Honestly, LCB Greg would probably be a better pick for healing. Still get 5 per turn, but you only have to burn 20 to grab instead of 100. I've also been grabbing LCB Hong for backline SP recovery.
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L.U.I.G.I posted:Quick question, how are you supposed to deal with ALEPHs? Cuz I got Censored and it keep taking away a chunk of sanity on top of being extremly hard to work with. Like, it breached once, I send a bunch of agent to kill it and they all got crazy and died. You need lvl 5 Agents to deal with it, lower level people will just panic instantly when seeing it. If you don't have lvl 5 Agents, well, this is a valuable lesson on why you should prioritize having lvl 5 Agents.
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Theantero posted:You need lvl 5 Agents to deal with it, lower level people will just panic instantly when seeing it. If you don't have lvl 5 Agents, well, this is a valuable lesson on why you should prioritize having lvl 5 Agents. Level 5 as in the stat being higher than 80 or simply a full 100? Because I have a lot of agent being at Level 4 and 5 while not having reached the upper limit L.U.I.G.I fucked around with this message at 03:38 on Jun 30, 2023 |
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L.U.I.G.I posted:Level 5 as in the stat being higher than 80 or simply a full 100? RandomReader fucked around with this message at 04:03 on Jun 30, 2023 |
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BisbyWorl posted:Honestly, LCB Greg would probably be a better pick for healing. Still get 5 per turn, but you only have to burn 20 to grab instead of 100. I forgot lcb Greg even had that passive. Yeah, you're right. I can't stop myself from picking Tingtang. Talisman Sinclair trip report: pretty solid, obviously great on a rupture team, the talisman downside is no big deal. Goatse James Bond fucked around with this message at 04:22 on Jun 30, 2023 |
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I'm starting to feel like Rose Rodion is terrible in MD2. She's the one character that doesn't want to change skills in the shop, and I swear that she pops up for it 50% of the time.
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LostRook posted:I'm starting to feel like Rose Rodion is terrible in MD2. She's the one character that doesn't want to change skills in the shop, and I swear that she pops up for it 50% of the time. she just doesn't like you i guess, i've gotten heathcliff both dungeons which is optimal use of ammo e: hardmode theory: rose rodya + talisinclair + lccb ishmael is a very affordable core team addition that, with the addition of sinclair, has enough overlapping synergy i don't know how many cost we'll have to spend but a powerful trio with two 00's seems good, and lets you lean wherever you need to (vs the presumably pretty good bleed team) Goatse James Bond fucked around with this message at 06:47 on Jun 30, 2023 |
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Likes me too much, really. Heathcliff is quite good for it, but I think N Faust is up there as the cheapest option for her (Skill1 Cackle->Skill2 Grippening) is as good as the most expensive leaving you free to buy gifts as well. Google Jeb Bush posted:
Someone on twitter was saying the datamine is 100 base cost with 000 costing 100, 00 costing 60 and 0 being free. That means you can get 3 00 or a 000 and a 00 to start with the meta progression upgrades. A bleed team would be pretty good, but would be contingent on being replaced or assisted before the robuts show up on the 4th-5th floor. LostRook fucked around with this message at 06:55 on Jun 30, 2023 |
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L.U.I.G.I posted:Level 5 as in the stat being higher than 80 or simply a full 100? Because I have a lot of agent being at Level 4 and 5 while not having reached the upper limit For CENSORED, make a level 5 agent who has 5/2/5/5 FPTJ stats. Go in with the best anti-black gear you've got. Trust me on this one.
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I wonder if Tremor would work? LCB Heathcliff and Meursault, N Don, LCCB Ishmael, some Gregor with Legerdemain. Add whoever else. There's enough EGO gifts that resonate for it to work if you're lucky.
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Quackles posted:I wonder if Tremor would work? LCB Heathcliff and Meursault, N Don, LCCB Ishmael, some Gregor with Legerdemain. Add whoever else. There's enough EGO gifts that resonate for it to work if you're lucky.
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Tremor's at its best in Abnormality battles when you can do all of the following: -Apply a bunch of stacks -Apply enough count to keep it running -hit the enemy with a bunch of Burst Tremor abilities that don't lower the Tremor Cost (Most EGO that BT do this) and then you can get up to doing a bonus 20, 30, even 50 damage per attack for multiple attacks per turn. Maximum would be 99 Gluttony damage/burst, but by that point most enemies should be dead.
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https://twitter.com/limbuscompany_b/status/1674709756567777280 BEHOLD THE GREAT ONE COMES!!!!! (Also some news about MoM Hard but w/e MY PRECIOUS FLAMING ISH)
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Finally, not only a 000 Liu ID but also a burn ID to use Firemoth with.
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Ariamaki posted:https://twitter.com/limbuscompany_b/status/1674709756567777280 So, we seem to be getting 450 points for our starting roster in MD2 Hard Mode. Considering that 000s cost 100, 00s 60 and 0s 20, what's going to be your starting lineup? Also you need to pay for your starting EGO too, EDIT: Ok, did a quick dive into MD2 to check EGO costs. Zayin costs nothing, Teth costs 40 and He costs 60. GilliamYaeger fucked around with this message at 11:26 on Jun 30, 2023 |
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Well, at least that finally put to rest the theories that we will get only 1 ID per sinner per season and we can get TLA Rodion without people complaining.
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I'll say that I'll continue my current plan of looking at the starting gift and making a themed team around that. Failing to find inspiration I'll take a themed team like all Burns or N corp. Fun fact: Not only does N corp Heathcliff get plus coin drop, but it is on a single coin attack. Normally that sucks... unless you have the commemorative coin and can double dip on inflicting it.
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habituallyred posted:I'll say that I'll continue my current plan of looking at the starting gift and making a themed team around that. Failing to find inspiration I'll take a themed team like all Burns or N corp. Fun fact: Not only does N corp Heathcliff get plus coin drop, but it is on a single coin attack. Normally that sucks... unless you have the commemorative coin and can double dip on inflicting it.
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My personal leaning for a hard run would be a burn team, with the 3 Liu 00 boys, the new ishmael, and chef ryoshu to start. Burn's a really good self contained status that doesn't require much thought or input for sizeable damage, and all 3 00 are solid picks with decent to great starting ego, with mersault's being an all star boss killer and gregor's being a 20 point swap for ledgerdomain. Chef Ryoshu is really good in general, extremely high damage and covers slash and pierce well, and her healing passive puts in good work all the time. I'd probably sideline the lcb heathcliff and outis, because base outis is a great clasher always and can upgrade into 7outis, and base heath is mediocre but upgrades into Rheath who's an all around god.
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Ariamaki posted:BEHOLD 2/3/4 finally some real loving coins Onehandclapping posted:My personal leaning for a hard run would be a burn team, with the 3 Liu 00 boys, the new ishmael, and chef ryoshu to start. Burn's a really good self contained status that doesn't require much thought or input for sizeable damage, and all 3 00 are solid picks with decent to great starting ego, with mersault's being an all star boss killer and gregor's being a 20 point swap for ledgerdomain. Chef Ryoshu is really good in general, extremely high damage and covers slash and pierce well, and her healing passive puts in good work all the time. I'd probably sideline the lcb heathcliff and outis, because base outis is a great clasher always and can upgrade into 7outis, and base heath is mediocre but upgrades into Rheath who's an all around god. Mirror burn runs into the issue where most fights aren't really gonna last long enough for burn to do much. Then again with enough burn you only need like 1 turn for things to turn terrible for the enemy
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GilliamYaeger posted:Finally, Burnshmael has come. The prophecy has been fulfilled. If the starting lineup is still 7, then R Heathcliff or Spicy Yi Sang(duh), Kuro Hong Lu(basically an 000), L Faust(solid), LCCB Ishmael(also solid) Rose Gregor(Legerdemain, also EGO gifts love rupture), Rose Meursault(blunt), and LCB Outis(cheap+good) EGO: Legerdemain and Representation Emitter are free so lol gently caress 'em. I'll probably buy a big kid aoe from a dispenser but besides that who cares which brings my points up to the Funny Weed Number. I could fit another 00 in there but I honestly don't know which one I'd rather have than LCB Outis. Maybe Tailsman Sinclair? I'unno e: this is of course just Team Brainless Victory, actually caring about synergy is for things I won't be doing 3x a week Yinlock fucked around with this message at 15:59 on Jun 30, 2023 |
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