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Darko posted:I'm glad I missed that dialogue as it would have taken me out of the episode. The U.S. is super connected to Canada via Detroit, Buffalo, and Seattle as major points. We even can go back and forth with a stamp on our drivers license. What is that thing? I try to just ignore "what is this infrastructure project *for*" in Trek because you'll just go insane. 
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Atlas Hugged posted:Yeah Kirk being absolutely terrible at cars was a good gag even if it was similar to what James Gunn did with GotG Vol 3. It was so much better than Picard's awful car scene in season 2. That scene was a homage to Kirk trying to drive in a Piece of the Action. He has trouble starting it and reverses into the car behind him in both. Spock isn’t around to give him poo poo about it this time, though.
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Jerusalem posted:Beating a dead horse but just wanted to chime in that wow that is an astonishingly bad fan-edit, and also an entirely perplexing one. Why did they do a fan edit of a.... teaser? It's almost exactly what I'd expect an AI to spit out. Call it a reverse Turing test. Make enough channels with AI churning out "next time on" trailers for everything and while each one will make pennies, maybe in aggregate it gets someone a couple hundred bucks a month.
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I think the only thing that really bothers me about this episode is that it plays into idiotic futurist beliefs like it's ok for people to suffer in the present because we'll someday have utopian space socialism. La'an can make that call because she's seen the actual future. Elon Musk has no evidence that things are going to improve for us in the real world.
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Atlas Hugged posted:I think the only thing that really bothers me about this episode is that it plays into idiotic futurist beliefs like it's ok for people to suffer in the present because we'll someday have utopian space socialism. I dunno, I disagree - instead of playing into it they kind of lampshaded it at the start by having at last one character not entirely convinced that the whole thing isn't 'just a fad.' That struck me as a very "it means we don't use money!" style joke and I appreciated it.
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Beeftweeter posted:were they though? i thought it was cops taking the evidence somewhere Oh, maybe I read to much into it, but I assumed those were more temporal agents, we never get a good look at them. It didn't appear to be a police vehicle since it didn't have any sirens.
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I think people will like Pelia more, but she just needs to grow on them. I didn't understand why people don't like her, but then I realized that I didn't like Carol Kane's character in Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt until she became one of my favorite characters, and she's playing the same accent here. Overall this episode was a lot of fun. I really liked the "Oh yes, this is New York City" "No, it's Toronto" bit, because of Toronto and Vancouver being stand ins for American cities all the time. Leaving a gun in the bedroom of a future genocider is a weird choice, but whatever. I had to rewind the episode to make sure I didn't miss her forgetting the gun. Seems like a huge oversight. I assume they had to have done multiple takes and no one once thought "Hey, you're leaving the gun on that table, you should carry it with you when you leave".
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They done made an X-Files The Movie and slapped it into their SNW season! What a ride! I appreciated the low-speed chase slamming La'an around in the passenger seat. Also her Frankenstein boots because she's tiny irl. Also agreeing that she totally caused the Eugenics Wars by giving Khan that gun.
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Not a big fan of the fight choreography this season, it doesn't feel particularly dynamic or exciting. I think I like my Star Trek action sequences to be starship battles or involve phasers, not fistfights. Unless they want to bring back double fist hammer chops.
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I really like the temporal elasticity theory for explaining away how the Trek events that should have happened in 1990 haven’t actually happened yet. It’s hand-wavey while sounding plausible, which is exactly on brand. Not looking forward to 2063, though, when I’m on my deathbed watching Star Trek: Legacy’s Next Legacy having to clumsily maneuver around First Contact very clearly not happening even though WW3 definitely did.
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Rewatched ep 2, this time not half asleep. Still think the augment premise sucks, but otherwise it was a very solid episode, 4/5. Favorite bit is Spock apologizing for his shameful display. The constant talk of passing confused me because the attorney just looked normal. What's a non passing Illyrian look like? Also smh that this trial wasn't held on Alcatraz
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Pinterest Mom posted:I try to just ignore "what is this infrastructure project *for*" in Trek because you'll just go insane. I like to think that those solar panels aren't hooked up to anything, they're just historical infrastructure that has been there for so long that people consider them part of the look of the bridge.
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Marsupial Ape posted:Wait a minute… Would be extremely down for La'an and Una walking in on her decapitating some dude in engineering and her explaining it's okay, it's just their culture man.
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Sentinel Red posted:Would be extremely down for La'an and Una walking in on her decapitating some dude in engineering and her explaining it's okay, it's just their culture man. Both Chief Engineer AND Highlander culture!
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Maxwell Lord posted:So am I the only one who caught the Dr. Keeler soda ad in the background of their first scene in Toronto? I want to go back and re-watch carefully for boxing posters in the background.
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AfroSquirrel posted:Both Chief Engineer AND Highlander culture! Lanthanites are from the planet Zeist? 
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I'm really enjoying season 2 so far. It's nice to watch new Trek and be able to just enjoy it without having to tell myself, well, at least it's not as awful as last season. This was definitely one of the best time travel episodes I've seen.
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Loved this one, and it makes me sad that the future of SNW is now in question due to Paramount’s hubris.
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Yesterday I started a week long free trial of Paramount + specifically to watch SNW and LD. I’ve gone through all of s1 now, and I wanted to say, I have really enjoyed it! Like any show it has some episodes that are not as good as others, but I was really entertained even by the ones I thought were “lesser.” I grew up with TOS and TAS in syndication, and it was a huge deal back then. My friends and I watched it religiously in the early-mid 70s. So the return to the old TOS style of episodic storytelling, as well as the various callbacks to TOS things really landed for me. I have also enjoyed the humor, and the use of more contemporary slang (Hit it/On it/Yahtzee! etc.) though I realize that might run some people wrong. It’s been a really fun and sentimental ride, and I guess so far this has been everything I could have wanted from a new Trek series. Whereas things like Enterprise and Discovery, from what I saw, just didn’t work as well for me. The highlights for me were the series premiere and episode 2, which I thought were both especially fantastic, and reminded me so much of the classic TOS. Then, e10 A Quality of Mercy just totally blew me away. Balance of Terror is one of my favorite individual episodes of any TV show ever, and the angle SNW took on that was fantastic. And they did it without doing a total rehash or being too fanservice-y, IMO. I have watched that one twice now. Can’t wait to start s2, and I know the most recent episode is also a big callback to a classic TOS episode. I haven’t checked out LD or Picard yet, but I will dig into those when I catch up on this show. Also, if anyone can point me to the page in the old thread where people were reacting to A Quality of Mercy as it aired, I would appreciate it. I’d like to see how it hit people when they first saw it last year. e: I found it, page 1096 of this thread. MrMojok fucked around with this message at 14:20 on Jun 30, 2023 |
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Sentinel Red posted:Would be extremely down for La'an and Una walking in on her decapitating some dude in engineering and her explaining it's okay, it's just their culture man. No, La'an can't be there. There can be only Una.
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I've been percolating a take about how this show is the perfect marriage of JJ Trek aesthetics with golden age Trek plots and ideas, is that even spicy?
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I forgot to mention something specific I really liked about this last episode: a little retcon that you'll miss if you... blink your ears? You know what I mean. Blink and you'll miss it, except it's expository and not visual, so ears instead of eyes. When Romu-Q-anon is about to go and kill Khan, she complains in genuine annoyed frustration* that a lot of their efforts to alter the timeline fail because seemingly no matter what they do, the historical events just tumble around and rearrange themselves more-or-less back into place, as if time is pushing back against their efforts. In exasperation, she whines that one event surrounding Khan should've happened in 1992, but it didn't, and she's been stuck on Earth for 30 years. I had a hunch, so I looked it up, and yeah... Khan. What a nice way to deal with that one time when TOS straight-up Back to the Future II'ed itself in "Space Seed". They snuck in an explanation for why the eugenics wars didn't happen when the audience was alive, and I like it. * I know it's acting, but it's a great performance
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zoux posted:I've been percolating a take about how this show is the perfect marriage of JJ Trek aesthetics with golden age Trek plots and ideas, is that even spicy? Yeah kind of. This show is significantly better looking than the JJ movies imo, and in a way which shows that they gave serious thought to the aesthetic of the original series without feeling beholden to it.
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tarlibone posted:I forgot to mention something specific I really liked about this last episode: a little retcon that you'll miss if you... blink your ears? You know what I mean. Blink and you'll miss it, except it's expository and not visual, so ears instead of eyes.
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Maxwell Lord posted:So am I the only one who caught the Dr. Keeler soda ad in the background of their first scene in Toronto? Oh yeah!  Also, lol  'goatsees'
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FlamingLiberal posted:Yeah I also caught that, it’s very meta More and more my favorite sub-sub-genre of sci fi is time travel frustration. Agents of SHIELD did a time loop episode that was amazing and one of the highlights was Coulson being one of two people aware of the loop and just being fatalistic and frustrated as it goes on and on, like just so completely over the bullshit. Its fun watching people get so frustrated and angered over time travel shenanigans.
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HD DAD posted:Loved this one, and it makes me sad that the future of SNW is now in question due to Paramount’s hubris. I feel like SNW has been the "flagship" Star Trek show for Paramount since it launched. Unless all of Star Trek burns to the ground again, I figure it is probably the safest show to keep on going. Personally, I am more worried about Lower Decks, but again it is already picked up through the 5th season. It could also be reversed, but it seems like it must have decent support from leadership there. And I honestly couldn't care if everything else in development stops. As long as I have SNW and LDS, I am good. Add me into the camp that loved this episode. It might even be my new favorite SNW episode. I thought they did some fun stuff with what is otherwise a very well-worn time travel tropes for Star Trek. I know others have already brought it up, but the frustration the Romulan had about things shifting around, so that the timeline was maintaining itself was really good. And this version of Kirk was really fun and had some great back and forth with La'an.
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Unkempt posted:
Oh my God, is that real? Those aren't horns, that's his forearms and hands and the gaping hole. Is there a ring???
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A.o.D. posted:Oh my God, is that real? Those aren't horns, that's his forearms and hands and the gaping hole. Is there a ring??? Well it's really there in the episode and I googled the slogan and can't find it in the real world, so it looks like a very special easter egg to me. OK, not exactly an 'egg'.
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Something just occurred to me about the story in this episode that I’m not clear on. Who actually blew up the bridge? Was it the Romulan lady? I’m just not clear on why the people in the van were waiting for the attack to occur and then hauled away debris. They kind of dropped that whole plot. The Romulan woman’s whole plan was to blow up the reactor but I’m not at all clear what those people in the van were actually doing.
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Computer, create an rear end in a top hat that is so gaping it could gross out Data.
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HD DAD posted:Loved this one, and it makes me sad that the future of SNW is now in question due to Paramount’s hubris. Same. Spent the whole episode whiplashing between the joy of watching something so awesome and the despair over knowing Paramount is going to probably kill it, slowly, then all at once.
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amazing. hello old friend
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zoux posted:Computer, create an rear end in a top hat that is so gaping it could gross out Data. Data: "Ooh yes! I HATE this!" Guinan: "More?" Data: "Please" Picard: *Sarek mindmeld montage*
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FlamingLiberal posted:Something just occurred to me about the story in this episode that I’m not clear on. They both said the bridge bombing happened in their timelines. The real time line had an unknown (to us) bomber. The alternate timeline it was Romulans doing it to gain access to the Cold Fusion reactor so they could blow it up and level the city since that was where the debris and parts of the bomb were being transported.
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FlamingLiberal posted:Something just occurred to me about the story in this episode that I’m not clear on. they don't say, and if you believe her, the romulan said she didn't do it. but they also said there were indications a photonic grenade was used, so who knows. similarly i don't think they ever say who removed the piece of evidence, and it doesn't really make sense that it would have been the romulans either — why would she need to follow them if that were the case? makes me think it was just other factions in the ~temporal cold war~, again
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CPColin posted:Data: "Ooh yes! I HATE this!"
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I saw Sybok's face, now I'm a believer
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tarlibone posted:I forgot to mention something specific I really liked about this last episode: a little retcon that you'll miss if you... blink your ears? You know what I mean. Blink and you'll miss it, except it's expository and not visual, so ears instead of eyes. Is it really "as if time is pushing back against their efforts" - or is it actually evidence of a temporal war? Its not "time pushing back" but evidence of further interventions of others? Regardless, I also liked it 
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