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Der Kyhe posted:OK so now you have seen it, and I can say out loud that the difference between the director's cut and normal version is that in the normal cut its just implied that federation has top-level people involved with the conspiracy. In the director's cut we have a Colonel West, the Starfleet marine who runs the security services and is seen talking to the federation president about doing a prison raid to Rura Penthe to free Kirk and Spock (or fumble it and get both killed, since they didn't get death penalty they were expecting). We also see that the sniper in the convention is the same colonel West, disguised as Klingon just to be sure. So its explicitly said that the conspiracy ran to the very top of the Federation.
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Kibayasu posted:STV is a series of really good character moments strung together really poorly. I’ve always thought STV could have been an all time classic TOS episode but stretched to movie length it really suffers. Which makes it better than every movie after 6 except for maybe Beyond
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SNW 2x03: A bold if perhaps misguided attempt to resolve the Eugenics Wars timeline disparity in-universe. Kirk and La’an were fun together, glad they enjoyed a glizzy and did a kissy.
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pyrotek posted:Which makes it better than every movie after 6 except for maybe Beyond
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Der Kyhe posted:OK so now you have seen it, and I can say out loud that the difference between the director's cut and normal version is that in the normal cut its just implied that federation has top-level people involved with the conspiracy. In the director's cut we have a Colonel West, the Starfleet marine who runs the security services and is seen talking to the federation president about doing a prison raid to Rura Penthe to free Kirk and Spock (or fumble it and get both killed, since they didn't get death penalty they were expecting). We also see that the sniper in the convention is the same colonel West, disguised as Klingon just to be sure. So its explicitly said that the conspiracy ran to the very top of the Federation. It was explicit that high ups in Starfleet were involved in the original cut of the movie; Valeris named Admiral Cartwright as one of the conspirators.
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pyrotek posted:Which makes it better than every movie after 6 except for maybe Beyond first contact was fine
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Aaaahahahaha I'm loving dying at Kirk from the Dumbass Universe acting like a big ol' himbo and drivin' cars real fast vroom vroom SNW rules!
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Omfg they're in a timeline where people still use loving Duck Duck Go Truly dystopic
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mycomancy posted:Aaaahahahaha I'm loving dying at Kirk from the Dumbass Universe acting like a big ol' himbo and drivin' cars real fast vroom vroom Cackled at I can also make plo-meek soup in the toilet!  e: holy loving poo poo that ending though 
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ST VII Generations- not great , not bad. I’d seen it Starting ST VIII- if I remember right it’s the first warp on Earth and they play Magic carpet ride which always bugged me cause they loop one section of the song for effect. Forgot SNW is tonight E- ST VIII more fun than VII. Not a fan of the borg queen as an arch enemy. Overall a fun movie. I definitely never saw Nemesis and have seen a lot of hate for it here. Gonna try. One more then she’s up. Big Ass On Fire fucked around with this message at 04:25 on Jun 30, 2023 |
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sweet geek swag posted:It was explicit that high ups in Starfleet were involved in the original cut of the movie; The corrupt Starfleet admirals are editing the films now? My god.
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First of May posted:SNW 0203 made me feel feelings, even if the car chase went on too long. My feelings are that I love Himbo Kirk! "I'm special!  "
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mycomancy posted:My feelings are that I love Himbo Kirk! "I'm special! His confidently incorrect New York City! line gave me a good solid chuckle. Last season I thought he was miscast, but he grew on me a lot this episode.
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Would anyone like to point out the reference/Easter egg im missing here?
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Endless Trash posted:Would anyone like to point out the reference/Easter egg im missing here? What does the goatsee?
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dr_rat posted:What does the goatsee? 
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Incremus posted:His confidently incorrect New York City! line gave me a good solid chuckle. Last season I thought he was miscast, but he grew on me a lot this episode. This episode really puts the end of last year into perspective a lot more w/r/t the choices they made with Kirk. It's clear Paul Wesley basically nailed the character right from the moment he was cast, but we didn't get to see that because he was playing a version of Kirk that there was something off with thanks to the circumstances of the story, and he leaned into that deviation as an actor. This Kirk is more like normal Kirk, with, again, some differences because timeline fuckery, but he's still basically 80-90% Jim Kirk. I hope this show doesn't get axed by Paramount or dies with Paramount when they go under next year because I think Paul Wesley has the chops to maybe even lead a full on TOS spin off as Kirk after this episode.
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Endless Trash posted:Would anyone like to point out the reference/Easter egg im missing here? Dr. Keeler I presume.
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STAR TREK: What does the goat see?
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i dunno, this episode was a bit too would you save baby hitler in order to prevent the events of red alert for my tastes
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TheDeadlyShoe posted:STAR TREK: What does the goat see? STAR TREK: Not that Kirk
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So is SNW shaping up to be ok? I didn't really like the first ep of S2 at all. Felt like a load of stuff from Discovery (i assume? everyone is suddenly a veteran of the "klingon wars"?? and pumping up with super soldier serum??) and had like feel of random poo poo just happening for no reason.
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Lacermonia posted:lol you ARE A FOOL!!!! hahahahah I called it you fools
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appropriatemetaphor posted:So is SNW shaping up to be ok? I didn't really like the first ep of S2 at all. Felt like a load of stuff from Discovery (i assume? everyone is suddenly a veteran of the "klingon wars"?? and pumping up with super soldier serum??) and had like feel of random poo poo just happening for no reason. I like S2E2 a lot better than E1. Same thing happened for me in SNW S1. E2 has a dumb premise, but it executes that premise very well. So...strong TOS energy.
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Lacermonia posted:hahahahah I called it you fools Wait did they canonise that
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pyrotek posted:Which makes it better than every movie after 6 except for maybe Beyond First contact is fine, Insurrection is also OK but it was a shoestring-budget and basically a ST:TNG two-parter sold as an movie.
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Der Kyhe posted:OK so now you have seen it, and I can say out loud that the difference between the director's cut and normal version is that in the normal cut its just implied that federation has top-level people involved with the conspiracy. In the director's cut we have a Colonel West, the Starfleet marine who runs the security services and is seen talking to the federation president about doing a prison raid to Rura Penthe to free Kirk and Spock (or fumble it and get both killed, since they didn't get death penalty they were expecting). We also see that the sniper in the convention is the same colonel West, disguised as Klingon just to be sure. So its explicitly said that the conspiracy ran to the very top of the Federation. Having Spock's Vulcan protege in 6 be a new character instead of his Vulcan protege from 2 through 4 was such a missed opportunity in long-form storytelling payoffs. Along with having the disgraced hotshot pilot in Voyager be a new character instead of the disgraced hotshot pilot from TNG's The First Duty, despite being played by the same actor. Star Trek 6, I like quite a bit, though my eyes kind of glaze over during the Rura Penthe segments. And while I wouldn't have minded some more layers to the conspiracy, having the sniper be a guy in Klingon blackface was dumb and I'm glad it was cut.
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TheDeadlyShoe posted:I like S2E2 a lot better than E1. Same thing happened for me in SNW S1. Yeah ep2 was way better. captain patel or whatever is a low key hottie too. What's with SNW and making shitter 1st episodes? Gimme that boring courtroom drama with most of the main cast just literally watching the episode on their own tv.
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appropriatemetaphor posted:Yeah ep2 was way better. captain patel or whatever is a low key hottie too. That's Wynonna Earp
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