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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:They do mention that they expect roughly 6,000 deaths when all is said and done from exposure and finding bodies in the rubble. But, other than that, they don't really play up the dirty bomb part. Fury was right in the middle of it and isn't violently expelling his liquefied internal organs, so I think we can safely assume those were regular bombs.
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Bloody Pom posted:Fury was right in the middle of it and isn't violently expelling his liquefied internal organs, so I think we can safely assume those were regular bombs. Secret Skrull 
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JazzFlight posted:I just remembered another thing that annoyed me about this episode: Marvel is usually smarter than this and it wouldn't have been hard to write a workaround. She injects him with something and says "Now we're best friends" and he agrees. For even more creepiness he then copies her and you have Olivia Colman asking questions of herself only one of her is missing a finger and is chained up. Showing torture working is inaccurate and feeds the revenge fantasy of every cop out who thinks he can bully the truth out of someone.
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Looking up the writers on Secret Invasion they're all basically budget options. Bryan Tucker is the most consistent voice credited by the WGA and his biggest credits are poo poo like Chapelle's Show, MadTV, and that show with Colin Quinn from 20 years ago. Lmao wtf Marvel how tf can you seem so lavishly expensive and so cheap at the same time?
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Jun 30, 2023 01:56
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You can tell this is a well written show because in the first episode the characters tell us about the Secret Invasion from the title instead of showing us any of it, they simply say "a Secret Invasion is happening!" and it doesn't waste my valuable time as a viewer by showing me things happening.
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smoobles posted:You can tell this is a well written show because in the first episode the characters tell us about the Secret Invasion from the title instead of showing us any of it, they simply say "a Secret Invasion is happening!" and it doesn't waste my valuable time as a viewer by showing me things happening. I enjoyed Talos' speech to the group of Skrulls explaining their own backstory to them, just so they were all on the same page. People just speaking exposition at one another drives me batty. I'm watching Night Agent with my parents and wanted to hang myself.
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I do think it is kind of bullshit that they are going to create Super Skrulls without the Fantastic Four being involved…unless…
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We all know they won't
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Why didn't they air those first 10 minutes in front of the first episode? It would have made the premiere flow better I think. Also, Skruller Carlson and the Skrulluminati.
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Jun 30, 2023 04:07
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I'm pretty sure this show is fine, and that it probably could have/should have been a movie. When it's all out it will be better in retrospect, unless one is still furious about trains, in which case nothing can be done.
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CAPT. Rainbowbeard posted:I'm pretty sure this show is fine, and that it probably could have/should have been a movie. When it's all out it will be better in retrospect, unless one is still furious about trains, in which case nothing can be done. Speaking of, when is this show relative to The Marvels? Fury wearing his eyepatch and doesn't have the full beard in the trailers.
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I googled "why doesn't Fury wear his eyepatch anymore and there was an article with Jackson where he says that Fury isn't feeling strong right now and his eyepatch makes him feel strong, so he will get his groove and eyepatch back, presumably, by the end of the series.
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Jun 30, 2023 06:49
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*Popeye theme plays as Fury plucks out his eye and puts on an eyepatch*
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sad that this episode we don't see the [SQUELCHING] subtitle
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Jun 30, 2023 09:40
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Fury is gonna go to one of his 300 safehouses across the globe, access some biometrics safe, and pull out a deluxe eyepatch with nightvision and some high tech augmented reality HUD integrated within it.
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Jun 30, 2023 09:50
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cap guy in the car with all the skrulls is gonna be that super powered skrull otherwise why is he even here
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Ninurta posted:Why didn't they air those first 10 minutes in front of the first episode? It would have made the premiere flow better I think. Also, Skruller Carlson and the Skrulluminati. I felt the same, while it was on it felt like this was primo episode1 stuff. Also, on reflection, it's a bit crappy that Fury's Skrull wife has to earthface herself for him when he gets home. There are *layers* to how iffy that is.
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Parkingtigers posted:I felt the same, while it was on it felt like this was primo episode1 stuff. I honestly wasn't sure what that scene was saying. Does Fury know his wife is a Skrull or has she been replaced?
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PriorMarcus posted:I honestly wasn't sure what that scene was saying. Does Fury know his wife is a Skrull or has she been replaced?
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Parkingtigers posted:I felt the same, while it was on it felt like this was primo episode1 stuff. "has to" is definitely an interpretation/word choice There are a lot of possible explanations for that scene. If it's entirely straight as it appears though I agree it's not great, but there's almost certainly more to it
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Jun 30, 2023 12:17
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A big problem with this show has been that they rush through the plot and motivations from characters are being left behind Rhodey told Fury he was ‘fired’, but what was his position these days anyway? He kind of went rogue from SHIELD during WS and then hasn’t officially been involved with anything that they’ve mentioned since, right?
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FlamingLiberal posted:A big problem with this show has been that they rush through the plot and motivations from characters are being left behind He says they basically hired him as a contractor after he came back from the blip. He was "building the most advanced space defense system known to man" according to the President. All the stuff he was doing with SABRE was sanctioned by the government and he was getting cut loose for abandoning his post and getting the U.S. blamed for the Moscow bombings.
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That's the other issue with this show, which is set in 2024/2025. It ignores almost 2 decades of MCU events. Somehow, even after an event in which half the universe vanished and then returned 5 years later, where aliens have visited and attacked Earth multiple times, where a giant creature froze while rising from the ocean, that we still have stuff like NATO and Russian in a fragile stand-off that could be false flagged into nuclear war by bombs going off in Moscow while an American is present? There are much better shows waiting to be made that explore what it is like to live in the MCU at at this point. She-Hulk, despite being a sitcom, exploring the legal aspects of minor league supervillainy/heroism at least touched on it. FatWS was close to getting into it, but fumbled the Flagsmasher side of the show. Others like WandaVision only looking back at personal trauma. I don't know what this show wants. Clearly there's an aim for some cold war paranoia about who you can trust blah blah blah but tech levels in the MCU mean there must be ways to scan who is human and who isn't. Fury would have been building that stuff years ago. Bolivar Trask will be out there building it to scan for mutants. They've done enough infiltration/mind control stories by now that looking for magical ways someone, especially government officials, might not be what they seem. That stuff should be pervasive, and to the point where it's causing civil rights violations and a pushback to it. Hell, even the Skrull gimmick of looking like a human is something SHIELD agents have been doing for over a year with their face camo peel-off thingies. I don't know yet what this show is trying to say, beyond torture works and some refugees will turn on you, and I sincerely hope there's some more inspirational messages coming in the future episodes because so far it's not giving me anything to cheer for.
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Super Deuce posted:Speaking of, when is this show relative to The Marvels? Fury wearing his eyepatch and doesn't have the full beard in the trailers. Clearly has to sometime after, since he goes back to working on SABRE and he looks like his old self again.
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Parkingtigers posted:That's the other issue with this show, which is set in 2024/2025. It ignores almost 2 decades of MCU events. Somehow, even after an event in which half the universe vanished and then returned 5 years later, where aliens have visited and attacked Earth multiple times, where a giant creature froze while rising from the ocean, that we still have stuff like NATO and Russian in a fragile stand-off that could be false flagged into nuclear war by bombs going off in Moscow while an American is present? The problem is that the MCU is becoming a thing where you miss nothing, at all, by reading the summary on Wikipedia. None of the characters mean anything, and all of the films/shows exist simply to move from A to B and get to the next thing. She-Hulk and the Dr. Strange sequel are the only half-decent things that's come out in years, and even Shulk poo poo the bed with its ending. All of the properties are going to have rushed and terrible CGI, characters, plot, and so forth because they've realized the profit is in the conveyor belt of poo poo in terms of merchandise and the next property. People are going to consume it regardless of quality (for now), so just keep pumping it out before the well goes dry.
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Red posted:Shulk poo poo the bed with its ending. Did we watch the same show? She-Hulk ended wonderfully
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StrugglingHoneybun posted:Did we watch the same show? She-Hulk ended wonderfully Some people loved it. Presumably other people were more "Waaahh!! Me want CGI fights and skybeams! Waaaahhhh!!!"
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I very much appreciated Jennifer looking directly into the camera and going "this is the wrong ending for this kind of show"
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yeah of all the marvel shows so far i thought she-hulk was the one that stuck the landing the best
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StrugglingHoneybun posted:Did we watch the same show? She-Hulk ended wonderfully It was perfect up until the non-ending. Everyone posted:Some people loved it. Presumably other people were more "Waaahh!! Me want CGI fights and skybeams! Waaaahhhh!!!" It was a great story that deserved a resolution, not just a wink. It's not the worst thing in the world, but I think the show could've done better.
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StrugglingHoneybun posted:Did we watch the same show? She-Hulk ended wonderfully
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She-Hulk ruled, dunno what you're talking about
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StrugglingHoneybun posted:Did we watch the same show? She-Hulk ended wonderfully
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Maybe She Hulk smashed Daredevil so hard he lost control of his bowels
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Parkingtigers posted:Gotta say, setting any part of the story in England was a mistake. They filmed the Moscow stuff in England and when they cut between the two (lol) countries it's just not obvious some of the time.
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StrugglingHoneybun posted:Did we watch the same show? She-Hulk ended wonderfully
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Red posted:It was perfect up until the non-ending.
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Parkingtigers posted:Gotta say, setting any part of the story in England was a mistake. They filmed the Moscow stuff in England and when they cut between the two (lol) countries it's just not obvious some of the time. Say what you will about the "Moscow" stuff, but I did chuckle at Fury keeping his British BOV in the same hideout as the gang from A Fish Called Wanda. 
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lol the A plot in SheHulk wasn't a good story, it was a pretty bland, boring rear end one. The silly B plot stuff was much more fun (once you let go of needing it to be serious), and the relationship stuff was pretty decent for TV and the performances were pretty good. The fact that they just chucked the tropey A plot in order to break the 4th wall was fun, even if "Cool Uncle Self Deprecating Disney" bits never quite land for me. If I had any critique (aside from ubiquitous Marvel TV pacing issues), it would be the existence of a stupid boring A plot in general.
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