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Are weirdly long boot times still an issue on AM5? Found a good deal on an open box 7800X3D and wondering what to expect.
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Jun 24, 2023 17:40
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ijyt posted:Are weirdly long boot times still an issue on AM5? Found a good deal on an open box 7800X3D and wondering what to expect. Normal boot is quick as usual.
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Jun 24, 2023 18:01
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ijyt posted:Are weirdly long boot times still an issue on AM5? Found a good deal on an open box 7800X3D and wondering what to expect. Afaik every cold boot unless you enable memory context restore. Once that's on and you don't screw with timings or reset the bios, smooth sailing
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Jun 24, 2023 18:03
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ijyt posted:Are weirdly long boot times still an issue on AM5? Found a good deal on an open box 7800X3D and wondering what to expect.
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Jun 24, 2023 18:50
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My Intel machine definitely boots quicker but I haven't enabled memory context restore with my 7800x3d because I heard it could potentially lead to memory instability. Could be nothing though, I haven't owned AMD machines in like 20 years before this.
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Jun 24, 2023 19:50
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From pressing the power button to being at the Windows desktop with everything initialized takes 15 seconds on my Asrock X670E PG Lightning. Windows reports "BIOS Time: 8.43 seconds" if I check the startup tab in Task Manager - despite the fact that it isn't a BIOS, and I have no idea how it's calculating that. However it's not like it's very meaningful, because the only time it affects me is when Windows needs to reboot for an update, as the machine stays on at all other times.
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Jun 24, 2023 20:14
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Thanks for the replies! Sometimes hard to sift through what's dated info and what's valid.
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Jun 24, 2023 21:46
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Is the gigabyte b650 aorus elite ever going to get a non-alpha 10.0.0.7 agesa bios??? Feels like it's been forever
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Jun 24, 2023 22:21
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whalestory posted:Is the gigabyte b650 aorus elite ever going to get a non-alpha 10.0.0.7 agesa bios??? Feels like it's been forever they have been really slow with sending out updates for the b650 series.
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Jun 24, 2023 22:33
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AGESA ComboAM5 1.0.0.9 was supposed to be out in May, I think. No idea what the gently caress happened.
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Jun 24, 2023 22:51
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BlankSystemDaemon posted:AGESA ComboAM5 1.0.0.9 was supposed to be out in May, I think. didn't we already know there's only one guy from each company working on the BIOSes from the overvoltage saga
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Jun 25, 2023 02:49
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ijyt posted:Are weirdly long boot times still an issue on AM5? Found a good deal on an open box 7800X3D and wondering what to expect. Anytime you change the RAM settings, or on 1st boot, it will train and take a while. Once its trained if you leave on MemoryContextRestore, or whatever its called, its decent. Shipon posted:I haven't enabled memory context restore with my 7800x3d because I heard it could potentially lead to memory instability. If you want the highest possible memory overclock and don't care about boot times or stability much then this make sense. If you're just trying to run EXPO/XMP at DDR5 5600/6000 with OEM timings then it doesn't matter and you should turn it on.
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Jun 25, 2023 02:57
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Palladium posted:didn't we already know there's only one guy from each company working on the BIOSes from the overvoltage saga It started out life as something that was intended to have at least an approximation of opensource support, but then AMD just sort of quietly stopped doing it. This, of course, speaks well of AMDs new opensource firmware project.
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Jun 25, 2023 12:14
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AMD Ryzen 5 5600X3D July 7th $230 Microcenter exclusive (I think not just launch, but not sure) https://www.microcenter.com/product/667765/amd-ryzen-5-5600x3d-vermeer-am4-33ghz-6-core-boxed-processor-heatsink-not-included E:GN video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FTjRfkEFk4 "5800X3D defects" Rinkles fucked around with this message at 14:25 on Jun 30, 2023 |
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Jun 30, 2023 14:22
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Hey AMD, 🖕
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Jun 30, 2023 14:30
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microcenter exclusive in the US, or microcenter exclusive worldwide?
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Jun 30, 2023 14:40
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repiv posted:microcenter exclusive in the US, or microcenter exclusive worldwide? Well Microcenter doesn't exist outside the US so hopefully not worldwide.
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Jun 30, 2023 14:54
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Any deal from Microcenter is generally assumed to be in-store only.
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Jun 30, 2023 14:56
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It sounds like it's only Microcenter. They're even responsible for the PR/media outreach according to Steve. This will be a really limited run, because AMD just doesn't have many, and they're not actively making them (again they're 5800X3D defects). MC said they expect to run out of their supply in 3-6 months.
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Jun 30, 2023 14:58
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Well that sucks, feels super weird to do a single region product launch in this day and age.
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Jun 30, 2023 15:00
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njsykora posted:Well Microcenter doesn't exist outside the US so hopefully not worldwide. that's what i meant, is this such a limited run that they're only bothering to release it in the US
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Jun 30, 2023 15:02
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lmao According to the GN video, AMD only has enough inventory for 1 vendor in 1 country so no one else is getting this
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Jun 30, 2023 15:05
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njsykora posted:Well that sucks, feels super weird to do a single region product launch in this day and age. I'm just glad that AMD is selling these rather than throwing them in the garbage. I love weirdo runt products from the clippings.
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Jun 30, 2023 15:06
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I assume they do a quick QA run on the chips before grinding them down to fit the 3D cache, makes sense their wouldn't be that many defective units to do a full launch. e: also MC doesn't have that many stores, only 25ish country wide and even some of those server the same metro like the Atlanta stores. Awesome store to visit though if you are ever close to one. lamentable dustman fucked around with this message at 15:20 on Jun 30, 2023 |
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Jun 30, 2023 15:16
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njsykora posted:Well that sucks, feels super weird to do a single region product launch in this day and age. they're not actually making anything
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Jun 30, 2023 15:22
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I run a 5600x with tight timing b-die and -25 offsets on all cores. Its paired with a 3080 10gb. Its stable and fast. Someone check me: at 1440 and 2160, Im likely GPU limited, not CPU limited, right? Said differently, a 5600x3d wouldnt bring much to the table with my current GPU, right?
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Jun 30, 2023 15:24
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bobfather posted:I run a 5600x with tight timing b-die and -25 offsets on all cores. Its paired with a 3080 10gb. Its stable and fast. Someone check me: at 1440 and 2160, Im likely GPU limited, not CPU limited, right? Said differently, a 5600x3d wouldnt bring much to the table with my current GPU, right? This is heavily dependent on the specific games youre playing.
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Jun 30, 2023 15:27
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lamentable dustman posted:I assume they do a quick QA run on the chips before grinding them down to fit the 3D cache, makes sense their wouldn't be that many defective units to do a full launch. Yeah they might only have a couple hundred of these, ever. I probably wouldn't upgrade a 5600X to one but if you still have a 3600 or a Zen 1 in a motherboard that will take it, maybe not a bad idea.
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Jun 30, 2023 15:27
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Well I guess that makes it easy to start pricing out a 5800x3d then
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Jun 30, 2023 15:30
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lamentable dustman posted:I assume they do a quick QA run on the chips before grinding them down to fit the 3D cache, makes sense their wouldn't be that many defective units to do a full launch. Im still salty that they wont expand to Phoenix. It made sense that they wouldnt when there were two Frys stores here, but now there isnt really any competition.
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Jun 30, 2023 16:30
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bobfather posted:I run a 5600x with tight timing b-die and -25 offsets on all cores. It’s paired with a 3080 10gb. It’s stable and fast. Someone check me: at 1440 and 2160, I’m likely GPU limited, not CPU limited, right? Said differently, a 5600x3d wouldn’t bring much to the table with my current GPU, right? If you are playing counterstrike, a faster cpu may yield more FPS, though consider your current frame rate and your monitor's refresh rate. More may be pointless. For a contemporary aaa game, probably no, it won't do much in terms of framerate. However, games are using more threads and more cycles for AI and such; as stated above, it depends on the game. In my opinion, you should only upgrade to the 5800x3D if the urge hits you. Another AM4 six core doesn't seem worth it.
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Jun 30, 2023 16:41
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Yudo posted:If you are playing counterstrike, a faster cpu may yield more FPS, though consider your current frame rate and your monitor's refresh rate. More may be pointless. Thanks, yeah. I dont do high-refresh 1080 gaming, nor play 4x games. Most aaa games are optimized well enough, in my experience.
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Jun 30, 2023 16:44
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lamentable dustman posted:I assume they do a quick QA run on the chips before grinding them down to fit the 3D cache, makes sense their wouldn't be that many defective units to do a full launch. Yeah this is probably just the chips that had flaws during assembly of the 3d package, or had a flaw too subtle to detect during post-fab testing. Every potential 5800X3D starts with a good 8-core die. Makes sense that they'd not have a lot of them. And it won't happen in the future, since the 7900X3D can use these dies. FuturePastNow posted:Yeah they might only have a couple hundred of these, ever. I'm sure more than a couple hundred -- that wouldn't be worth the time to package up and ship. And in the GN video there's an update that Microcenter expects supply to last 3-6 months. I'd guess somewhere in the 5-10 thousand zone.
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Jun 30, 2023 16:50
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lol nice
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Jul 1, 2023 02:02
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ijyt posted:lol nice That feels alarmingly close to the kind of thing that accidentally starts WWIII in a Clancy novel.
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Jul 1, 2023 02:11
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hobbesmaster posted:That feels alarmingly close to the kind of thing that accidentally starts WWIII in a Clancy novel. There are some fish that are too big to gently caress with. When it becomes a geopolitical hot-potato you unlock it and do your best to disappear into the woodwork and hope nobody's too mad. Like colonial pipeline, the russian group apologized and announced they'd had a sudden desire to improve their manners, were unlocking everything they'd ever done, and would disband as a group. Some wild swing in gas prices during COVID economic disruption year 2 was exactly the opposite of what anybody needed, and there's also nobody on the planet who's not affected by TSMC disruption let alone the possibility of losing a month of production or w/e.
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Jul 1, 2023 02:34
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If the entire group is in Russia, maybe that doesnt happen. In any other country
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Jul 1, 2023 02:35
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ijyt posted:lol nice He's hosed.
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Jul 1, 2023 02:36
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The actual detail is that TSMC itself didn't get hacked, only one of their suppliers. It's probably not that big a deal.
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lmao gently caress AMD
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