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pik_d posted:Maybe She Hulk smashed Daredevil so hard he lost control of his bowels Well, his costume did change to brown and yellow....
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The Saddest Rhino posted:Agreed that the plot of stealing her blood to make super hulk incels was really loving dumb Which is why she went to KEVIN to get rid of it. Although technically that blood sample should be out there somewhere. I wonder if the Skrulls got it and that’s how we get Hulkling? Teddy gets imbued with Jen’s blood by their machine.
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Parkingtigers posted:That's the other issue with this show, which is set in 2024/2025. It ignores almost 2 decades of MCU events. Somehow, even after an event in which half the universe vanished and then returned 5 years later, where aliens have visited and attacked Earth multiple times, where a giant creature froze while rising from the ocean, that we still have stuff like NATO and Russian in a fragile stand-off that could be false flagged into nuclear war by bombs going off in Moscow while an American is present? This was something oldheads knew would be a problem for the MCU when more and more lore accumulated. The exact same thing comes up in the comics and it's one of the reasons why they usually flit around to weird gimmick status quo changes (Dr. Strange is now Rocket Raccoon? What!?!?), continuity reset shenanigans, relationship melodrama, and/or "this new threat is the most dangerous" stories. The premises and world just can't support sociological exploration of their concepts and still be a sellable mass market product where just about every demo from your bigoted uncle to your infant cousin can at least theoretically wear a T-shirt or buy a popcorn bucket with the iconography on it. It would be nice if they recognized that they actually could explore those things at least a bit more instead of just following a checklist of things people expect from a Marvel project-- She-Hulk did that well, Hawkeye almost did that well, Moon Knight did that well, and while I think it was badly written I do respect Loki for going there too-- but if I recall correctly this show had a very troubled production and it's very clear Marvel is not using good writers lately.
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my only complaints about She-Hulk ending are: 1.) after all the talk about how only certain genetic infrastructures can support a proper Hulking, the incel dude should have just melted or turned into a big green turd 2.) Titania deserves more/better/a time machine
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Jul 1, 2023 18:49
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Rogers: The Musical debuted and the one traditional media review that appears to be out there is positive. Most notably, it says Fury tap dances.
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Jul 1, 2023 18:49
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The Saddest Rhino posted:Agreed that the plot of stealing her blood to make super hulk incels was really loving dumb Okay, this thread made me re-watch the show because it's fun and wonderful and it's a Friday, and uh I don't mean to be the mean or evil-spirited person of the thread, but the conclusion of the stealing blood for Hulk incels thing is the show itself saying this is dumb and ridiculous. You can argue that that itself is dumb and ridiculous too, but they leaned into the fourth-wall breaking stuff in She-Hulk a little and well it's a ~*comics thing*~ and you either like it or you don't. Also,  This show is asking the important questions.
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Jul 1, 2023 18:53
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The MCU needs more Nicky and more Madisynn (two N's and a Y but Y's not where you think it iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiis)
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Jul 1, 2023 19:18
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Wongers and Madisynn forever
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Jul 1, 2023 19:34
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I think that making an extended thing with them beyond like, 5/10 minutes as a bonus scene or spread out among seasons it'd quickly become the epitome of running a joke into the ground. Like the goats in Thor 4.
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Jul 1, 2023 19:48
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They already greenlit an Agatha Harkness series because a 60 second song popped off on twitter while everyone was still washing their groceries, we do NOT need to Morbius a Wong series into being
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Jul 1, 2023 20:10
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Firebert posted:They already greenlit an Agatha Harkness series because a 60 second song popped off on twitter while everyone was still washing their groceries, we do NOT need to Morbius a Wong series into being The song was the icing on the cake of Agatha's popularity, not the whole thing.
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Firebert posted:we do I would definitely watch a Wong / Madisynn sitcom with no plot.
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I would watch a MST3000 of The Sopranos with Madisynn and Wong.
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Jul 1, 2023 20:36
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I would love to see Madisynn learn a drunken hand kung-fu type of sorcery from Wong and be a party girl that can use magic responsibly to protect other party girls. She could portal them home or help them heal from trauma. Just as a background thing. I don't need to see the training montage, but when she shows back up, she's got a trick or two and doesn't struggle like a noob.
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Rappaport posted:
Right-wingers have convinced these assholes that it's woke to be into awesome chicks.
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StrugglingHoneybun posted:I would love to see Madisynn learn a drunken hand kung-fu type of sorcery from Wong and be a party girl that can use magic responsibly to protect other party girls. She could portal them home or help them heal from trauma. Wouldn’t Madisynn be more of a potion themed caster?
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Honestly, what is up with that? That acknowledges they are aware this is what people want. Is it they're doing a lot of work to make X-men the best thing they can? They're aware that rushing stuff and not properly vetting cast and crew has caused issues before, and so they want to make sure everything is as perfect as it can for X-men?
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twistedmentat posted:Honestly, what is up with that? That acknowledges they are aware this is what people want. Is it they're doing a lot of work to make X-men the best thing they can? They're aware that rushing stuff and not properly vetting cast and crew has caused issues before, and so they want to make sure everything is as perfect as it can for X-men? I think the prevailing theory on Youtube is that there are contracts about the current XMen Dark Phoenix crew that no one else can play the character until 2025, which may have contributed to quiksilver in WandaVision being played by the same actor. But i can't back any of that up
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Deadpool 3 is probably the beginning of the X-Men in the MCU
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FlamingLiberal posted:Deadpool 3 is probably the beginning of the X-Men in the MCU The ending of Multiverse of Madness should have been Strange walking into the Sanctum Sanctorum to see Deadpool chilling on his couch.
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StrugglingHoneybun posted:I think the prevailing theory on Youtube is that there are contracts about the current XMen Dark Phoenix crew that no one else can play the character until 2025, which may have contributed to quiksilver in WandaVision being played by the same actor.
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Technowolf posted:The ending of Multiverse of Madness should have been Strange walking into the Sanctum Sanctorum to see Deadpool chilling on his couch. Maybe they're saving the Deadpool cameo for season 2 of Loki. The DP2 after-credits is their wheelhouse.
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Donnerberg posted:Maybe they're saving the Deadpool cameo for season 2 of Loki. The DP2 after-credits is their wheelhouse. Sylvie and Loki read very, very differently when you're trans and function as a wonderful metaphor for learning to love yourself enough to change even when yourself doesn't love you back.
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FlamingLiberal posted:Deadpool 3 is probably the beginning of the X-Men in the MCU Twitter has stopped loading for me (lol) and idk how true it is but I saw someone claim that filming was finished within way too short a time period and that it commenced during the writers strike so we may have to expect a not entirely high quality product
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The Saddest Rhino posted:Twitter has stopped loading for me (lol) and idk how true it is but I saw someone claim that filming was finished within way too short a time period and that it commenced during the writers strike so we may have to expect a not entirely high quality product
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Donnerberg posted:Maybe they're saving the Deadpool cameo for season 2 of Loki. The DP2 after-credits is their wheelhouse. Rumors are that Owen Wilson is in Deadpool 3 and that Matthew McFadyen is playing a TVA agent so there's probably something cooking.
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I don't pretend to know anything about the production side of these things, but I guess it doesn't help that there's already sort of two X-men universes already, which they even tried to blend with a movie! But be that as it may, both sir Ian McKellen and Michael Fassbender are already MAGNETO, the MASTER of MAGNETISM, so let's introduce a third one into the mix? What I want to know, K.E.V.I.N., is where the gently caress are the Fantastic Four and even more importantly, the glory and wonder that is von DOOM 
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Deadpool 2 ended with time fuckery so they basically wrote themselves in ahead of time I am praying the Owen Wilson rumors are true, I love him
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Lunatic Sledge posted:Deadpool 2 ended with time fuckery so they basically wrote themselves in ahead of time I keep saying that Deadpool is going to turn out to be the culprit that messed up the multiverse. And yeah,it's all going to lead to the after credit scenes.
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The X-Men are being saved for Phase 7 when the juice is really running out and when all their main actors have finished their contracts so they have something to get people invested for another 10 years
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They are going to drop the ball with DOOM so hard
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Rarity posted:The X-Men are being saved for Phase 7 when the juice is really running out and when all their main actors have finished their contracts so they have something to get people invested for another 10 years
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If they whiff the Fantastic 4 again, after 70 Billion dollars to buy Fox, I'll never stop laughing
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Given how things have gone in the last couple of years I think it is more a when than if. I am of course happy to be wrong about this.
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After Endgame you really think the leadership would have stepped back and gone "Ok so our heavy hitters are out, time to focus on selling everyone on new characters" instead of presuming interest/fealty. It is absolutely not working out for them and you can find posts of mine going back 20 years throwing support behind this engine. They'll wash out to even, they're too big not to, but it's still sad to watch what seemed like a well-led enterprise eat its own tail out of momentum.
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Yeah, given a time machine, I'd have made phase 4 be about dealing with the aftermath of the blip. Introduce a few new heroes here who stepped in to help rebuild or stop those who'd take advantage of the chaos. Phase 5 would have been bringing those heroes together and only towards the end start laying in hints of the next big bad. The key would have been keeping things small and personal for a couple years. Oh well. I just hope X-men comes out before I die.
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Soonmot posted:The key would have been keeping things small and personal for a couple years. This was definitely the intent in some of the broad strokes-- Ms. Marvel, Moon Knight, She-Hulk, Wandavision, Loki, Hawkeye-- but something ballooned out of control with the megamachine, budgets, and general momentum. Taking a break for a few years from the film side is super easy to say from the outside but like, how would anyone even do that? It's like Ione Sky taking a break from the film world after Say Anything for just like 2 years and then coming back in to find no one really wanted her reestablished. In entertainment if you want mainstream success you do until you die, no matter how obviously bad an idea that is. I maintain that the biggest problem is that Marvel stopped making a very sincere effort to sell the characters. For all the faults of their movies, you can tell they really want you to buy Doctor Strange, or Ant-Man, or Black Panther, or Captain Marvel, and while they still have actors and characters with real appeal they stopped giving those character space to breathe. There's a reason Quantumania is seen as kind-of a focal point for everything going wrong-- by this point you have 2 heroes, 1 legacy hero, 2 old guard heroes, 1 new villain, 3 new supporting characters, and they all eat each other's oxygen to the point where none of them really establish much of a presence; not even Majors doing his damndest to own the screen as Kang. The best D+ shows are unequivocally the ones that give their new characters room to breathe-- She-Hulk, Moon Knight, Ms. Marvel-- and not the ones that just crowd the plate with more and more bodies. Even Wakanda Forever, which I really liked, struggles immensely because every single person on-screen in that movie is being a star so there's very little for a viewer to anchor onto. And so it goes with Secret Invasion-- a lot of people talking at Fury and nothing to really hold onto other than "ok never trust refugees and torture to get what you want?"
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There are no anchors now. Phase 1 had Coulson and Fury pushing things towards the first Avengers movie, and then overall they had Tony and/or Steve in over half the movies. Now everything feels all over the place.
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mind the walrus posted:This was definitely the intent in some of the broad strokes-- Ms. Marvel, Moon Knight, She-Hulk, Wandavision, Loki, Hawkeye-- but something ballooned out of control with the megamachine, budgets, and general momentum. Taking a break for a few years from the film side is super easy to say from the outside but like, how would anyone even do that? It's like Ione Sky taking a break from the film world after Say Anything for just like 2 years and then coming back in to find no one really wanted her reestablished. In entertainment if you want mainstream success you do until you die, no matter how obviously bad an idea that is. I didn't mean they should take a break from movies, just that those movies should be smaller stakes. I'm a quantumania liker, but that should not have been an antman movie. Our first was about reconnecting with Scott's family, our second was about rescuing Janet. Third was a revolution on another plane of existence? Again, I liked it, but it lacked that personal hook
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