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Sir Lemming posted:This is... not a great sign. Even if I thought that Musk’s actions were great and I strived to emulate them, which is a very stupid thing to think, I would still know better than the publicly admit it.
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Platystemon posted:Even if I thought that Musk’s actions were great and I strived to emulate them, which is a very stupid thing to think, I would still know better than the publicly admit it. could be an attempt to bait Elon into buying reddit so he can cash out before the fire reaches the mountain of oily rags.
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Rick posted:Unfortunately it looks like he’s right. Too many people came crawling back after two days so they have no reason but to proceed. I’ll be interested in what things look like post-June 30th. I’m out once Apollo shuts down. I’m not changing my daily routine until it just doesn’t work
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As has been mentioned before Elon is basically what every CEO wants to be. A dude who cares about nothing but making money no matter the cost
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Endymion FRS MK1 posted:I’ll be interested in what things look like post-June 30th. I’m out once Apollo shuts down. I’m not changing my daily routine until it just doesn’t work Pretty much. I've bounced as well and deleted Now for Reddit from my phone. Alas. I used to browse Reddit frequently in boredom, fortunately I still have Awful app.
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CharlestheHammer posted:I think he’s talking about Reddit. Twitter is already barely holding on as is and probably won’t survive the long term Correct! Apparently things aren't great at Reddit either, they basically used their entire cash infusion from a couple years ago building that NFT platform. Which might be what this is actually all about on several fronts. Endymion FRS MK1 posted:I’ll be interested in what things look like post-June 30th. I’m out once Apollo shuts down. I’m not changing my daily routine until it just doesn’t work Yeah, it turns reddit from something I look at when in a line or waiting room or something after looking at everything else I normally look at to something else being in that slot. Their mobile app already annoyed me enough to uninstall it even before all this happened, and my entire interaction is with third party apps.
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FlamingLiberal posted:Reddit had an NFT platform? Exactly NFTs were such a dumb Speedrun of crypto, where crypto is itself a dumb Speedrun of capitalism
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I remember when Activision and GameStop both had NFT platforms and no one bought that poo poo
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FlamingLiberal posted:I remember when Activision and GameStop both had NFT platforms and no one bought that poo poo Reddit was way better positioned to take a share of that market if NFTs were ever going to be a real thing. Fortunately, though
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Are there any NFTs/kinds of NFTs that are still worth anything at this point or has the whole thing gone up in smoke?
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Zugzwang posted:Are there any NFTs/kinds of NFTs that are still worth anything at this point or has the whole thing gone up in smoke? None of them were ever worth anything, but the answer is a resounding no.
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RagnarokZ posted:None of them were ever worth anything, but the answer is a resounding no.
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Biplane posted:First place I had a job, an at the time semi-small regional electronics wholesaler, the two people whi started and ran it consistently gave yearly raises, already generous pay, great benefits, employees loved it and productivity and profit increased yearly. Then they hit the magic point where Capital noticed its success, they eventually got an offer too good to pass up, and the business has been a shambles ever since. That is kinda like where I am at. Management treats people like human beings, pay raises are alright, benefits are great, and pay is high for the industry. Thankfully we got bought up by the European division of a big Japanese company. But at some point management will turn over and drive the place to poo poo. I'll leave then. I've been out at lovely companies, and I might get 10k more working for one but it's not worth it right now.
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Zugzwang posted:Yes but I guess I'm asking whether there are still rubes who will fork over lots of money for them or if the rubes are all busy being conned by something else now. I'm opening up a slurp juice bar.
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Zugzwang posted:Yes but I guess I'm asking whether there are still rubes who will fork over lots of money for them or if the rubes are all busy being conned by something else now.
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Zugzwang posted:Yes but I guess I'm asking whether there are still rubes who will fork over lots of money for them or if the rubes are all busy being conned by something else now. All the people who used to be NFT grifters are now AI grifters.
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FlamingLiberal posted:Not the market died awhile ago Dude's in deep.
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Cowslips Warren posted:Maybe it's because I'm not rich but do you, as a rich person, ever have enough money that you go eh, gently caress it, let's pay people more? Not cut jobs? Offer benefits that aren't poo poo? There’s Ken Olsen, who do-founded and was CEO of Digital Equipment Corporation for many years. He made a point of hiring minorities and women for important leadership positions. DEC also had an employee credit union because many of their employees wouldn’t have qualified for loans due to redlining. He was by all accounts very well liked. But he also donated money to The Family and other conservative religious groups so uh, yeah. There’s that too.
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PhazonLink posted:is " The Family" the real name of the org or is its just the nickname of some particular regressive org. This one; the group behind the National Prayer Breakfasts https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Fellowship_(Christian_organization)
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CharlestheHammer posted:As has been mentioned before Elon is basically what every CEO wants to be. A dude who cares about nothing but making money no matter the cost If he cared about making money over everything else he wouldn't have bought Twitter which has never been and now may never be profitable. He basically talked himself into buying Twitter because people were being mean to him online and he wants to be cool and respected, and he even saw that this was a bad idea and tried to back out but had put himself in a position where he legally could not. So now he's all in trying to make it a cool Free Speech Zone where if you pay money YOUR annoying replies get to be at the top of every thread so everyone has to listen to your opinions on why you think trans people are evil.
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Volmarias posted:Pretty much. I've bounced as well and deleted Now for Reddit from my phone. Alas. I keep posting this but this place is now my main source of interaction with the Internet and social media these days. No algorithm, no endless scrolling, a paywall to stop bots and trolls. It's a shame about Reddit. I enjoyed my time there but I'm glad I got out before all this nonsense.
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Maxwell Lord posted:If he cared about making money over everything else he wouldn't have bought Twitter which has never been and now may never be profitable. Twitter had profitable quarters, no? Even shortly before the Musking.
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Maxwell Lord posted:If he cared about making money over everything else he wouldn't have bought Twitter which has never been and now may never be profitable. No he thinks he’s making money and in the end that’s all that matters. Like he didn’t want Twitter so now he’s trying to sell everything that isn’t absolutely necessary The fact it’s failing is obviously the fault of everyone else.
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Icon Of Sin posted:After he tried to back out of buying twitter, yes. After he said "I'm buying Twitter, this is definitely not an attempt to manipulate the stock price lol maybe I should buy the shares for $420.69?!?!"
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Sir Lemming posted:The # of users isn't nearly as important as the # of advertisers, and they're definitely not out of the woods by any means. User engagement alone doesn't pay for your yacht. And Twitter Blue subscriptions sure aren't going to do it either. Those checkmarks are increasingly seen as something to be avoided, and I have to wonder how long it'll be before people get bored of paying for one to own the libs. Businesses are still thinking in 20th Century mode where advertising will support mass media (like a television network). It works great if you have fewer than five networks and there are zero on-demand video alternatives. I quit Twitter last year and haven’t missed any news or memes or much of anything because there are literally dozens of other places I can get the same info for free. Google Search works as an ad-based platform because you go there when you are looking for something (goods, info) and they will match your query with an interested vendor.
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Twitter has just abruptly announced a temporary (maybe) limit on the number of posts you’re allowed to view per day, with Verified members getting more. This is allegedly to combat “data scraping” but may have something to do with a deal Twitter has with Google for cloud hosting, for which Twitter is behind on payments. It’s too early to declare that this is The Thing That Finally Breaks Twitter Completely but people are rushing to get in line for Bluesky so it is at the very least a sign of decline.
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Dril basically just posted a BanMe and people are finally getting horrible errors when doing poo poo like loading a photo.
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Zugzwang posted:Twitter's refusal to pay their bills is a bold strategy. Let's see if it works out for them.
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FlamingLiberal posted:If today is any indication it’s working great!
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I would guess that this is Elon’s latest genius idea to get people to start paying to pay to use Twitter. Because he’s an idiot who A) bought a company for way more than it was worth and in the process of doing so saddled it with enough debt that it will never be profitable again and B) has such a fundamental misunderstanding of the business that he has spent much of his time as CEO attempting to brainstorm ways to charge the product money.FilthyImp posted:Dril basically just posted a BanMe Can you (or anyone) post a screenshot of that? I don’t have a Twitter account and I sure as hell am not going to make one now.
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