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I think that ties in with charismatic, some people have a hyperspecific fetish for managerial type guys and rather than admitting that's a them problem, it must be the raw animal magnetism they exude.
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Julio Cruz posted:someone on the news yesterday, while describing Keith as a school pupil, used the word “charismatic” and I laughed out loud Surely thats worse - he wasn't born in the suit and with the aura of the middle manager, it's something he actively shaped and molded from a previous competent self.
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Sir Sidney Poitier posted:Wife laughed at me for keeping the same dentist in my hometown which I've had since I was 11. Yes it's a 1.5h drive once a year, but who's laughing now, wife. yeah I'm almost certain it isnt her
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Money laundering? Russian sanctions? Being too big of a dick?
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fuctifino posted:At Winchester, Oxford, Stanford, Goldman Sachs and McKinsey, Sunak was told that if he worked hard and solved problems, he would succeed in life. But political reward is more hard won. One cabinet minister put it this way: “In his mind the deal he struck with the universe is not working out. He’s very clever, but he knows that with cleverness comes responsibility to graft ... But if you work hard and do the right thing, the universe will reward you — and in his mind at the moment the universe is not keeping its side of the bargain.” Hmm. Perhaps if Sunak was actually clever he might realise that maybe the reward hasn't come because he hasn't actually done the right thing yet? Or even that the just universe is a complete fallacy? Odd. Perhaps Sunak is, after all, a complete idiot...
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Back up now son that suggests we're ruled over by idiots, and that can't possibly be true.
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Z the IVth posted:Money laundering? I think a big money laundering/dodgy money scandal is about to break, and Farage & co are making a huge noise about having their accounts closed ahead of that story breaking so they can try to steer the narrative. The timing of it is suspicious, given the recent liquidation of the Russian troll farm network post coup attempt, and with it the Kremlin cash. Farage used to literally work for RT. e2a: I read somewhere in the Ukraine thread that there are now many thousands of recently unemployed ex trolls, and many of them probably have evidence that they could easily sell to western interests. It'll also be interesting to see if online engagement suddenly drops for some people/platforms etc. fuctifino fucked around with this message at 23:54 on Jul 1, 2023 |
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 Noooo!!! I worked hard and solved problems and you're not giving me any of my just rewards!!  Haha gravity waves go brrrr
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Umbra Dubium posted:Hmm. he doesn’t even grasp the basic fact that he backstabbed his way to the top and didn’t even kill the king, and that’s just among tory voters
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Jel Shaker posted:he doesn’t even grasp the basic fact that he backstabbed his way to the top and didn’t even kill the king, and that’s just among tory voters It wasn't even that interesting, it was pretty much "Which oval office is too stupid to see which way the wind is blowing?". Which is how you end up with Kemi Badenoch, Suella Braverman, Rehman Chisti, Jeremy oval office, Sajid Javid, Penny Mordaunt, Michael Green, Rishi Sunak, Liz Truss, Tom Tugendhat and Nadim Zahawi putting their names in the hat. The problem Sunak has is that he hasn't actually done anything with his time as PM. He's spent months ineffectually whiffing at the small boats problem to the exclusion of every other problem facing the nation because he's worried about being flanked on the right over immigration. Because he hasn't - apparently - realised that you can't win that PR fight unless you commit to literally sinking every vessel that puts out to sea between Boulogne and Worthing. Meanwhile, every actual issue facing the UK has been getting worse and worse. If Sunak was a halfway-competent PM, he could get away with calling the entire ERG wing of his party "fascist sympathisers" and actually work on getting ready for the next GE, but he hasn't built up any good will with the mega-wealthy because of the above, so he'll get trampled by a defaced cardboard cutout of Tony Blair in a poorly-fitting suit.
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Flying by to gripe into the void about how t'BBC always has Laura Kuenssberg plastered all over its site. The stories are never "NHS now costs 10p" with a byline, it's "Kuennsberg: NHS now costs 10p" with that pic of her smugly crossarmed, the adult in the room. Now, I've been out of the country for several years (aka a deserter) so I don't really know anything about this person tbh. Maybe she is some beloved genius with the best takes, but I doubt it. Maybe she just does more weekend content when the Beeb all go home and all the puff pieces come out so it's more noticeable. But I don't think I've ever seen any other personality being pushed so hard by the BBC, so without checking Wikipedia my guess is she's connected to top brass somehow.
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Twitter news: Seems Melon Husk's latest wizard wheeze is to limit the number of posts you can read each day. 6000 for "verified" and 600 for freeloaders (eg me). He claims it's to do with data scraping but seems it may be in fact that he hasn't paid the Google bill for some use of a service they provide which was due to be paid by June 30th. Anyway given it defaults to the "for you" stream generally packed with far right idiots not the "following" stream full of good lefties or news outlets might inadvertently use your 600 up reading shite and writing yah boo sucks or whatever on a Jordy P or Birbalsingh post. Not shared any relevant tweets above as don't know if embeds count as views!
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chird posted:Flying by to gripe into the void about how t'BBC always has Laura Kuenssberg plastered all over its site. The stories are never "NHS now costs 10p" with a byline, it's "Kuennsberg: NHS now costs 10p" with that pic of her smugly crossarmed, the adult in the room. She was their top political "journalist" for the past few years paid about £250k pa to be a Boris shill.
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chird posted:Maybe she is some beloved genius with the best takes, but I doubt it. Your instincts are extremely correct
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:Twitter news: And you know how some people here were complaining a few days ago about not being allowed to view tweets without logging in? Turns out that may have been what caused this: https://twitter.com/Esqueer_/status/1675217212951461890?t=CNDDIdcLT_Horye0T2_7cg&s=19
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kingturnip posted:There's that ongoing rumour that she slept with Boris, too She was certainly looking at him like she wanted to any time they were in the same room
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Dabir posted:She was certainly looking at him like she wanted to any time they were in the same room Do you think mad Nads cornered her at a no.10 presser whilst drunk and told her to back off?
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Gorn Myson posted:Laura Kuenssberg being turned into a brand by the BBC is funny because I think if she left it no one would give a poo poo. leet like laura k
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Catzilla posted:Do you think mad Nads cornered her at a no.10 presser whilst drunk and told her to back off? yes but she did that to everyone else in the room too
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fuctifino posted:https://twitter.com/PolitlcsUK/status/1675215100653780993 What problems could he possibly think he's solved?
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fuctifino posted:https://twitter.com/PolitlcsUK/status/1675215100653780993 I can easily believe this, but what does he imagine the reward for being competent - even 'good', by whatever measure - PM is? Public life is famously considered not the way to go if you want big bucks, and given his immense personal fortune already, that's even more true. He's so rich that even kickbacks and bribes are nothing, nevermind the actual pay he draws as PM, it's all laughable, put every penny he earns and 'earns' together and he wouldn't notice it missing if it fell down the side of the sofa. So what kind of reward does he even expect that he's feeling hard done by for not getting? Love from the press? The party? Public adulation? Even if he did a bang-up job it's not like he's been there long enough for rosy retrospectives to be published about what a hardworking genius he is.
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Puntification posted:What problems could he possibly think he's solved? The scourge of onshore windfarms? And by extension the threat of having a planet to live on.
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Ms Adequate posted:So what kind of reward does he even expect that he's feeling hard done by for not getting? Love from the press? The party? Public adulation? Even if he did a bang-up job it's not like he's been there long enough for rosy retrospectives to be published about what a hardworking genius he is. Talking of which, I wish this kind of mentality was unique, but there are sadly many melted brained boomer types who genuinely believe this, and who won't have died by the time the next election takes place:  I've said at least once in ukmt's of old that I believe that Boris will be our leader (dictator?) yet again. fuctifino fucked around with this message at 11:16 on Jul 2, 2023 |
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It's time for serious politics, where my favourite man off the telly makes the party of my dreams and all the good mps go with him and everything is better afterwards. You lefties and your idealistic communist nonsense need to grow up and live in the real world.
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I created this a while back to reply to Boris cultists. I have a feeling I'm going to be using it a lot in the runup to the next GE:
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the laura knuessberg thing is interesting in that she’s probably the only “young” bbc politics / news person they can probably push as a “celebrity interviewer” bbc management are desperately trying to get rid of all their established names (who have been there decades) and the bench below is absolutely bare
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