Fil5000 posted:

They'll manage something like removing the space station but if you fly your ship into the wrong place where it used to be you'll materialise inside it

Randalor posted:

"You son of a bitch! You moved the station, but you didn't move the loading zones!"

Fil5000 posted:

Oh I meant worse than that, somehow your ship is in the previously walkable sections of the station.

Mirificus posted:

Randalor posted:

The station becomes the player. Every part of the station made out of nightmarish cronenberg-esque body horror as the game loads the player model for every part of the station, before twisting and warping them to the proper shapes. Hand rails made of mile-long player. Floor tiles of player crushed down and stretched out to make the meter by meter plates. Every stair a seperate player, staring at you with long-dead eyes.

Attempting to delete the nightmare station leaves a void in the programming causing anyone to load into the game to suffer a crash so bad it corrupts their computer registry and erases the BIOS (it was a particularly bad crash).

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now dismissed (by CIG staff) as merely 'concept art'

dr_rat posted:

Instead of deleting the space station they accidental delete everything outside the space station.

It takes two weeks to fix.

FishMcCool posted:

Is this another station they're removing? Or is that the one they removed ages ago but it was totally fine because it was supposed to be in another system and that other system will release any time now as soon as server meshing gets figured out.

trucutru posted:

Visiting spectrum is always good for a chuckle, I guess Xenothreat is back for the fifth time or so? Backers are loving it.

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All those complain just show how good SC has became.
Today at 12:39

It's simple.
Players wanna play and enjoy games that they like and find good.

If this game don't work as intended, they complain because they just want to enjoy the game at his full potential.

If the game wasn't good in the first place, no one will complain because it's a waste of time even at his best state.

It's a cliché, but SC is in development.
For 50 playes that understand that, another 50 players don't.

So, before complain, remember that.
Maybe you just want to play your favorite game, but you are first of all an alpha tester.

Relax and that it easy.

JugbandDude posted:

Xenothreat is back on the menu, still with 0% xeno

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...and everything is going very badly

This is a value judgement, while there are those who may share your attitude it doesn't accurately reflect what is happening.

A game is like a jigsaw puzzle, there's no way for anyone to make a full judgement on it until all the pieces are in.

The second part of your argument is that it is taking too long. Again a value judgement but based upon what? How other games are made? The majority of games are made behind locked doors and no-one gets to even hear about them until they are in the feature complete stage. Even when they reveal a game they virtually never detail all the R&D that went into making the game engine that produced that game.

Let's take Starfield as an example. They are using Creation Engine 2, a revised and hopefully updated version of Creation Engine which itself was based on the Gamebryo engine which by the time they wanted to make Skyrim V they felt was outdated. The Creation Engine began development around 2011.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creation_Engine

Bethesda don't, and likely won't, talk about any adjunct tools they have developed to make Starfield - so that is an unknown.

Listening carefully to Todd Howard's presentation on Starfield I was listening to hear how they had updated Creation Engine because I have used it to make Skyrim V mods, I know it's capabilities and limitations (somewhat). The only new feature he mentioned, proud as he was of the work his team had done, was that now NPC's can use ladders. Yes that's definitely different to Skyrim V.

You want 'a game' but seem oblivious to what needs to be done to actually make a game. The amount of R&D that CIG has done is quite frankly phenomenal in the time when compared to other game engines, they have tackled problems that other studios don't even dare to attempt because the plan is to make a game on a scale, and yet at an FPS level usually only for 'small map games' , that is what other game developers would call 'daunting'. The reason they can do that is because of the unique partnership they have made with a community to develop a funding model that otherwise would not support that amount of R&D.

So how long should it take? No-one knows, not even CIG because it has never been done this way before. There is nothing to make a comparison to. The whole point of the project was to make the end goal paramount rather than producing a known product to satisfy a bunch of investors simply looking to make a profit.

Star Citizen was from inception intended to be a co-partnership between game developers and their gaming community, something never attempted by any game developer and outside of a few niche indy projects it has never been done this way before.

It's not finished yet, it's not even feature complete yet, indeed many of the tools they need to make it all a reality are still in development (refinement) and many many times over the last 10 years people have told them they would never be able to do the things they plan to do - yet they have done those things. Yes, sometimes it took longer than they, or we, hoped but the point is - they have done it. It's very hard to see how all the the things fit together to make that whole jigsaw puzzle a reality, especially if you have little to no inside knowledge of the way things are usually done.

The game is not 'broken' because you can only apply such a term to finished released game. Star Citizen is still being built piece by piece with many pieces yet to go in and one of the main draws for many to this project is that we get to see all the processes that go into making this puzzle fit together, see how the sausage gets made.

You don't have to stay to watch it, but whatever you decide you and anyone else is welcome to come and enjoy the fruits of all that labour, and community patience, when it does finally come together.

If you want to be pedantic, then Starfield has been at the very least 12 years in development and it still doesn't have some of the capabilities that this 'broken alpha' has right now, and unless there are some truly heroic modders out there, it never will. Todd Howard in his Starfield presentation acknowledged the input (thus work) from years of people modding Bethesda games and we know some of those advances will feature in Starfield... they used them in their Skyrim V VR release as well.

Mirificus posted:

FishMcCool posted:

trucutru posted:

Visiting spectrum is always good for a chuckle, I guess Xenothreat is back for the fifth time or so? Backers are loving it.

Mirificus posted:

Paranoid Peanut posted:

Game out?

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...Skyrim V...
...Skyrim V...
...Skyrim V...
...Skyrim V...

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A game is like a jigsaw puzzle, there's no way for anyone to make a full judgement on it until all the pieces are in.

lobsterminator posted:

That's perfectly tailored for the aging conservative SC player base. There is no actual threat but they still have a strong fear and hatred towards anything different from themselves.

Being told there is a threat is enough.

colonelwest posted:

Half the anger on Reddit is that the event has completely broken the game, the other half is that they can’t side with Xenothreat and become space-Nazis.

Of course it’s all lampshaded but the fact that aliens don’t even exist in the game.

Tippis posted:

…also: it broke the game? How can they tell a difference?

FishMcCool posted:

FishMcCool posted:

All those complain just show how good SC has became.
Today at 12:39

It's simple. Imagine four chariots on the edge of a port olisar. Say a direct copy of the chariot nearest the rings is sent to the back of the line of lovely ships and takes the place of the first overly expensive eve ripoff. The formerly first chariot becomes the second, the second becomes the third, and the fourth clips thru the floor. Time works the same way.

Blue On Blue posted:

because before the once a year 'event' the servers wouldn't melt down every 20 minutes

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many many times over the last 10 years people have told them they would never be able to do the things they plan to do - yet they have done those things

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If you want to be pedantic, then Starfield has been at the very least 12 years in development

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many many times over the last 10 years people have told them they would never be able to do the things they plan to do - yet they have done those things

Trilobite posted:

The word "never" does all the heavy lifting that backers need; when someone says Star Citizen will never get made, they think to themselves "ah, but perhaps ten years from now..." and are comforted. After all, in infinite space and with nearly infinite time, who's to say that Star Citizen as it was promised will not spontaneously coalesce out of stellar dust somewhere far away, trillions of years from now?