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OwlFancier posted:And yes, it is! This actually sounds really loving cool, let’s take a look at the spec requirements and see if I can… …god drat it why did I ever think buying a MacBook was a good idea 
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If it's M1/M2 you might be very shocked at what it's capable of, especially with them working on stuff like this. Sorry not sorry
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It’s also from 2015 so quite frankly I’m shocked it can run anything at this point lol
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Some more explanation on Traffic AI: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j557Tg_qkZU Although not that much more on the AI than we already know. They do say that traffic lights lower the chance of accident though. You can import/export things like electricity! Time to make all my rubbish somebody else's problem!  And you can create external transport lines to other specific cities via connection or air. And things like set up a bus connection to another city for more back-and-forth with them. So there's specific cities beyond you, not just 'the nation'.   Some of the info displays imply some neat stuff too    Tram line things:   Per-road info display with over-time graphs  Police cars will often be out on general patrol, not just dispatched when there's an incident. And service buildings like police can be assigned to specific districts or sets of districts, they're not just radius-based (they mention this one was a common request from users). Note the descriptions listing the possible upgrades.    district panel with, presumably, ordinance toggles on top 
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I'm curious about these buildings: Those look a lot like row houses with varying setbacks to match a curved road? Rather than the plots being always perpendicular to the road? E: although, that could also be a terrain height change and it just looks curved cos of the camera angle. OwlFancier fucked around with this message at 15:53 on Jun 29, 2023 |
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I am assuming the paw print is pets? Did CS1 track pets/animals? I wonder if we will have options to provide/grow veterinary services. All those screenshots are getting me super hyped up seems like the SIM is going to be a lot more in-depth than the previous game.
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MikeJF posted:Some more explanation on Traffic AI:
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MikeJF posted:Lord of screenshot That’s an insane amount of detail 
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CapnAndy posted:This does kinda make me wonder how we're gonna get anyone on mass transit. It sounds like everyone owns a car and wants to use it, and mass transit is always going to lose to direct driving on time by its very nature. I would assume that you would do it with good ticket prices, low parking/car accessibility due to deliberate planning measures, and building things right near transit stops, just as we have done historically. I never found it hard to block almost all car traffic with those in CS1 so I can't imagine it's much harder in CS2. OwlFancier fucked around with this message at 17:54 on Jun 29, 2023 |
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CapnAndy posted:This does kinda make me wonder how we're gonna get anyone on mass transit. It sounds like everyone owns a car and wants to use it, and mass transit is always going to lose to direct driving on time by its very nature. My first city is going to try to be as car free as possible. I'm going to provide literally zero parking. If the game shits itself doing that, I'll only use lots and always charge the maximum amount. There will be no high cost of free parking in my realm.  As much as I hope things like mode share are open for modders, if it works and you can actually get people to use transit by doing things real cities do to get people to use transit, that will be neat. Like the reason Tokyo has extremely high transit use isn't because Japanese people inherently don't like cars, it's because the transit is excellent, the city is dense and walkable just about everywhere, and there is no street parking anywhere, you gotta pay $$$$$$ for lots. There are a decent number of parking lots around (most of them are pretty small so they're not obvious like aerial shots of American cities) but nowhere near enough for everyone. The main thing missing is you can't buy a car there unless you own a parking space at your house or are long-term leasing one in a lot, so most people simply don't even have a car to begin with. One thing I wish they'd change is that motorcycles are just reskinned cars. You should be able to park a lot more motorcycles/scooters in a smaller space. Encourage Vietnam-level scooter use by only providing bike parking. I have a suspicion that is going to be changed with the inevitable bike infrastructure DLC. Grand Fromage fucked around with this message at 18:08 on Jun 29, 2023 |
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With the "driving like an idiot" capability you could also potentially make bikes/motorbikes more prone to taking shortcuts 
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Well, they're probably not just reskinned cars - given the parameters they've discussed I except motorbikes are probably cheaper to operate, can't carry passengers, and have a lower comfort rating. But yeah they'll probably do better with them come the Bike DLC. MikeJF fucked around with this message at 19:35 on Jun 29, 2023 |
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Motorcycles will crash en masse during Summertime when citizens blow their lawn clippings out on the road
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I hope our own cims will go on off-map trips. Before the only people coming or going from your city were outside tourists, but your own cims never took business or tourism trips off the map.
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I want to be able to set up intersections with hook turns to deal with tram lines and cims from other cities get confused and cause accidents.
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Just put cowcatchers on the trams and if the cars can't figure it out they get the shove.
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OwlFancier posted:Just put cowcatchers on the trams and if the cars can't figure it out they get the shove. That's basically how they do it in Melbourne but without the cowcatcher. Tram drivers a) are public transport drivers who don't give a gently caress b) know they have the right of way c) know the tram is built like a brick shithouse compared to a car and d) know they won't have to pay the repair bill. Never play chicken with a tram.
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MikeJF posted:That's basically how they do it in Melbourne but without the cowcatcher. Tram drivers a) are public transport drivers who don't give a gently caress b) know they have the right of way c) know the tram is built like a brick shithouse compared to a car and d) know they won't have to pay the repair bill. Never play chicken with a tram. 
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CapnAndy posted:This does kinda make me wonder how we're gonna get anyone on mass transit. It sounds like everyone owns a car and wants to use it, and mass transit is always going to lose to direct driving on time by its very nature. They consider more than just speed. It costs money to drive since cars have gas, it costs money to park and parking may not be readily available at their destination so the amount of walking is weighed in as well. There's also whatever "comfort" is. Baronjutter posted:I hope our own cims will go on off-map trips. Before the only people coming or going from your city were outside tourists, but your own cims never took business or tourism trips off the map. https://twitter.com/ColossalOrder/status/1674087557863206914
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Looking through their Twitter, they mention that tunnels have interiors, which makes me think we're going to get some form of street level cam.
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The "comfort" metric for a trip sounds to me like the ease/simplicity. If you can ride your own car from your doorstep to destination, that's "comfort", even if the trip takes longer or has ridiculous cost.
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nielsm posted:The "comfort" metric for a trip sounds to me like the ease/simplicity. If you can ride your own car from your doorstep to destination, that's "comfort", even if the trip takes longer or has ridiculous cost. It was mentioned as something that increases the likelihood that people use public transportation, though.
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It looks like comfort includes how far they have to walk from or between parking/transit stops to their destination building, how much they have to change lines if they're using public transport, how many times they have to switch roads or navigate intersections if driving, and stuff like bad traffic jam areas. If there's an easy public transport ride from near their house to near their destination, that'll be more comfortable than navigating a nasty route or fighting traffic or parking.
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I wonder if it takes into account the facilities, like changing lines at a big central station that's all interior and serves many transit types is preferred to waiting at a bus stop.
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I assume/hope that most commercial buildings will provide their own parking. Most places have parking lots, you know!
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CapnAndy posted:I assume/hope that most commercial buildings will provide their own parking. Most places have parking lots, you know! I hope you can get underground parking
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That's true, there are buildings with parking built in. Need BOB to come along quickly so we can delete those. No one will park in my city! Get on a loving train or begone!VostokProgram posted:I hope you can get underground parking Somewhere they mentioned there are underground garages along with above ground ones and surface lots.
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Grand Fromage posted:That's true, there are buildings with parking built in. Need BOB to come along quickly so we can delete those. No one will park in my city! Get on a loving train or begone! They've mentioned you can make pedestrian-only roads that only service vehicles can drive on. Here's a nice one with a tram line. 
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I am going to just...wait to continue my sci-fi car-free city tbh. Everything I want to do and struggle with in CS1 sounds like it might be possible in CS2, plus I'll be able to have a basic city to renovate and make REALLY sci-fi as time goes on with custom assets. Having an "old town" is always fun
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VostokProgram posted:I hope you can get underground parking Check out the yellow car here at the bottom. Some buildings appear to have underground parking built in. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j557Tg_qkZU&t=175s
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I'm going to make a city with no public transportation whatsoever and deliberately make foot traffic essentially impossible. My cims will all enjoy the privacy, comfort, and convenience of personal vehicles.
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New feature highlight just dropped. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwIfNxWzihU
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Any dlc for 1 worth grabbing in the sale?
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A Sometimes Food posted:Any dlc for 1 worth grabbing in the sale? 2's right around the corner, seems prudent to just wait at this point.
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So the first lovely thing about CS2 is that they're simulating morning and evening rush hours but you can only adjust public transportation in day/night intervals. Having more buses run on a line between 4 and 7 PM is just not an option.
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turn off the TV posted:So the first lovely thing about CS2 is that they're simulating morning and evening rush hours but you can only adjust public transportation in day/night intervals. Having more buses run on a line between 4 and 7 PM is just not an option. Smells like a day 1 mod
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So for some reason they're calling metro 'subway' even though it'll happily run at ground or elevated level. I wonder if that's a Finnish<->English thing.
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MikeJF posted:I wonder if that's a Finnish<->English thing. No. The only Finnish 'subway' is named Metro in Finnish.
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