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Lol at the posts elsewhere that proclaim Morey is just ANCHORING and he wants a superstar return and it’s how he held out and got Harden and all I can think is that that worked out great for him
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Jul 3, 2023 16:30
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I don't post in the basketball forum much because I'm a Blazer fan and we are generally just mediocre. gently caress Lillard but this is probably the first time I'm excited for an upcoming season. Zero pressure to win, Sharpe looked great at the end of last season, and hopefully Scoot does well. Maybe after all the drama I can enjoy basketball again 
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Jul 3, 2023 16:31
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Having a young team with potential and who are fun is the best. You just really get into the draft. And love watching young dudes learn and make mistakes... Then when the Rookies don't improve and your team sucks still in year 3-4 of the rebuild is when you start to just want a bunch of veterans to hopefully watch a team actually win games and be competitive, and hope the young dudes learn something by being on a team of professional vets. Then when that veteran team caps out at a play in/6th seed you start to think the best move is to blow it up and return to watching a bunch of bad young dudes, since you aren't going anywhere but getting washed in the first round if you make it there anyway. Not speaking from experience or anything....
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Jul 3, 2023 16:37
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Hard for me to reconcile Blazer fan with "gently caress Lillard". The man has been the only worthwhile thing about the team for a decade. Whatever the outcome of his trade request there will be a statue of Damian Lillard outside the Moda Center.
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Jul 3, 2023 16:39
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WhyteRyce posted:Lol at the posts elsewhere that proclaim Morey is just ANCHORING and he wants a superstar return and it’s how he held out and got Harden and all I can think is that that worked out great for him Morey's done a lot of shrewd deals to get the In Morey We Trust thing going in Houston but he's also had some major flops like trading for Ty Lawson or signing Dwight then poking the bear by offering to trade for Dirk. Guess we'll see how this unfolds Westbrook doesn't count, I think that was all Harden and Morey's foot was out the door once Ferttita pushed that through
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Jul 3, 2023 16:40
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The Puppy Bowl posted:Hard for me to reconcile Blazer fan with "gently caress Lillard". The man has been the only worthwhile thing about the team for a decade. Whatever the outcome of his trade request there will be a statue of Damian Lillard outside the Moda Center. Dame showed the org more loyalty than loyalty a fan base will ever show a player who finally hits a wall and says I want out. It's why people were laughing knowingly at Dame's "run from the grind" statements. Because unless he got lucky and fell into a roster that could win a ring, or was actually internally cool with never winning a ring and just being a lifer; this is always how it was gonna end.
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Jul 3, 2023 16:41
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a new study bible! posted:The only NBA coach I actually believe in is Spo and maybe Pop. Kerr is a mega fraud. Well if he's fraud, what's Mark Ja... okay, I see your point.
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Jul 3, 2023 16:42
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Intruder posted:no cap 
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Jul 3, 2023 16:47
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Ammanas posted:the only time I ever heard mid used to describe something was potheads talking about their plants, no one used it as a geneal term until like 2019
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Jul 3, 2023 16:53
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The Puppy Bowl posted:Hard for me to reconcile Blazer fan with "gently caress Lillard". The man has been the only worthwhile thing about the team for a decade. Whatever the outcome of his trade request there will be a statue of Damian Lillard outside the Moda Center. This is the poo poo that has been hard to deal with. Everyone in Portland wants to tell you how to enjoy the team (or specifically a player whose prime accomplishment is getting swept in WCF). I liked Dames time here, I hated how Olshey never made a real swing at contention, I could have done less with the Dame Loyalty Lore combined with the trade request rumors the last few years. And I really hoped he didn't do the "theres only one team I want to go to" on the way out schtick so the team could have more leverage getting a return.
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Jul 3, 2023 16:56
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Intruder posted:Morey's done a lot of shrewd deals to get the In Morey We Trust thing going in Houston but he's also had some major flops like trading for Ty Lawson or signing Dwight then poking the bear by offering to trade for Dirk. Guess we'll see how this unfolds Morey is great on a move by move basis. He always "wins" a trade. But I think thats at the expense of his team. Like, if he had Denver these last few years he would have over-reacted to Murray's injury and been messing with pieces instead of just letting that team gel and letting Murray come back with a defined role and place waiting for him. Its like he's got a baseball team where you slide pieces in an out instead of a basketball team that needs identity and defined roles for everyone. I think that hurt him a bit in Houston (I think bad luck was a big part, but they also knee-jerked because of that bad luck) but I think it's really showing up in Philly.
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Jul 3, 2023 16:57
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Dame is easily the best Blazer ever
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Jul 3, 2023 16:57
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Papercut posted:Dame is easily the best Blazer ever All-time points leader. Clyde scored more buckets and played more games/minutes but Dame has been Portland's star basically since he showed up.
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Jul 3, 2023 17:02
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Papercut posted:Dame is easily the best Blazer ever It'll always be Clyde for me, maybe it's nostalgia but I got to watch those Finals runs with my dad. Still have the shirts :-)
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Jul 3, 2023 17:02
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Papercut posted:Dame is easily the best Blazer ever Bill walton?
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Jul 3, 2023 17:03
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Everyone is just using whatever leverage they have to get the outcome they want It's fair for Dame to ask to be traded somewhere specific, just like it's fair for the team to seek the best deal for themselves. Dame's not being an rear end in a top hat for caring and wanting to be in the best possible position for he and his family, now that it's clear it's not gonna work out in Portland. Player overall probably has the most leverage overall, but their leverage comes at far more of a personal cost to execute on.
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Jul 3, 2023 17:04
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Papes posted:Bill walton? Also easily the most Portland person ever, despite his falling out with the Franchise the dude was really the embodiment of Portland in both good and bad ways.
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Jul 3, 2023 17:05
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Ghetto SuperCzar posted:It'll always be Clyde for me, maybe it's nostalgia but I got to watch those Finals runs with my dad. Still have the shirts :-) Same and I mean my dog is named Clyde but he did the same thing as Dame and Dame is just better than he was Papes posted:Bill walton? He played like two seasons for them
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Jul 3, 2023 17:06
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Word is the Nets want a pick in exchange for Herro’s contract lol
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Jul 3, 2023 17:12
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Papercut posted:Same and I mean my dog is named Clyde but he did the same thing as Dame and Dame is just better than he was Different era, and accomplishments mean a bit more to me than stats. Also its weird with stats, are we talking greatest individual season? Longest good run? Defense not count? Like Waltons championship season was probably the best individual season. Drexlers accomplishments were better (and his defense was a lot better) and the length of time he was with the franchise was about the same, but he did have better players around him.
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Jul 3, 2023 17:12
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Lillard is probably the best Blazer but even Rasheed Wallace won the same number of playoff games in fewer years so I can see why fans might not appreciate him as much as you'd expect.
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Jul 3, 2023 17:22
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Clyde the Glide is an all time nickname that alone makes him better than Dame
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Jul 3, 2023 17:23
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Codependent Poster posted:Clyde the Glide is an all time nickname that alone makes him better than Dame Early 90s he was 2nd to no one other than Jordan as well. Kinda surprised theres even a discussion on this but recency and higher scoring games kinda makes sense.
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Jul 3, 2023 17:27
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I don't like when guys on their rookie-max contracts ask out, especially if the team is still somewhat in the mix. They have the right to, but I think it's just kinda crappy when someone isn't willing to stick out their millions-dollars-contract after the team developed them and built a team around them. Dame is way past that. I get it, the team is clearly looking at the future and Lillard is just going to be carrying water. I also don't blame the team using the fact that theres 3+1 years on that contract and I seriously doubt Lillard is going to walk away from 200M by not reporting to another team.
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Jul 3, 2023 17:27
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Dalano Banton signed with Boston, which feels more than slightly heretical.
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Jul 3, 2023 17:35
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the blazers have been shopping him for multiple seasons and when no one gives them the Godfather Offer they release a press statement about how incredibly committed they are to damian lillard
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Jul 3, 2023 17:38
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Lockback posted:I get it, the team is clearly looking at the future and Lillard is just going to be carrying water. I also don't blame the team using the fact that theres 3+1 years on that contract and I seriously doubt Lillard is going to walk away from 200M by not reporting to another team. That's the thing, I don't think he would either, but like if I were a team considering giving up a haul for him I would not do so if there was even a hint that he wasn't willing to play out that contract on my team. As even without the 200 million dude is still wealthy enough to walk away with a comfortable life for he and his.
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Jul 3, 2023 17:40
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Zogo posted:Vanessa Bryant Wins Lawsuit Against Former Kobe Inc. President Who Made 'Offensive' Comments About the Family the current ringless goat is Kevin Durant
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Jul 3, 2023 17:40
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Ghost Dog posted:the blazers have been shopping him for multiple seasons and when no one gives them the Godfather Offer they release a press statement about how incredibly committed they are to damian lillard If the Blazers were truly shopping Lillard for two years then he would have been traded already.
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Jul 3, 2023 17:44
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I put Dame above Drexler personally, but that could also be because Drexler played with some players that I really liked as a kid, whereas Dame's been doing it pretty much by himself. I have no issue with Dame wanting a trade to Miami. If he doesn't say where he wants to go he could easily end up in Utah or Minnesota, and no one wants that
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Jul 3, 2023 17:44
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Mean Baby posted:If the Blazers were truly shopping Lillard for two years then he would have been traded already. and thats why bradley beal hasnt been a wizard in living memory
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Jul 3, 2023 17:45
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Chris Haynes said Portlands gm told dame flat out they would trade the 3rd pick to get him some help and after that lie they told him they would make a different trade to get him some help (didn't do that either) lmao clown organization
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Jul 3, 2023 17:46
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the greatest blazer of all time is arvydas sabonis, for looking like that
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Jul 3, 2023 17:46
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Ant got his max, 5/260
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Jul 3, 2023 17:48
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Dexo posted:That's the thing, I don't think he would either, but like if I were a team considering giving up a haul for him I would not do so if there was even a hint that he wasn't willing to play out that contract on my team. I think the biggest problem is this request didn't come out 2 weeks ago. I think the market would be better at the trade deadline or even next off-season. Carlosologist posted:Ant got his max, 5/260 Good deal. I think he needs to get all-NBA or MVP to hit that number though. Glad it was all settled though. even better: https://twitter.com/JonKrawczynski/status/1675906766616363013
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Ghost Dog posted:and thats why bradley beal hasnt been a wizard in living memory Comparing Dame to Beal is absurd. They aren’t comparable.
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Mean Baby posted:Comparing Dame to Beal is absurd. They aren’t comparable. *reading a comparison that ruins my argument* guhhh absurd
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Jul 3, 2023 17:52
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Traxis posted:Lillard is probably the best Blazer but even Rasheed Wallace won the same number of playoff games in fewer years so I can see why fans might not appreciate him as much as you'd expect. I hate this line of thinking. Jason Richardson is still one of my all time favorite Warriors because that guy balled out, every night, on some of the shittiest dubs teams of my lifetime. He singlehandedly willed the Warriors to at least being entertaining when you knew you were destined for defeat- like going against the Kobe/Shaq Lakers or something. You went to the game knowing ahead of time but hey, were down 2 with 45 seconds to go! People that base quality of player and what they gave to the franchise solely on playoff wins generally suck.
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I mean tbf to that post Rasheed is a close runner up for best Blazer of all time
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