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DEXA is awesome, but most home scales are still useful directionally if you do consistent conditions (like first thing after waking, before hydration) or whatever.
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# ? Jun 10, 2024 23:47 |
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decided to give the barbell medicine powerbuilding template a try and despite the first week being labeled "low stress", day 1 crushed my legs (in my defense i'm coming into this after 2 weeks of no lifting, so i was expecting to feel a little rough). this looks like it'll be a fun program. from what i can tell, the rough idea is to focus strength on the big 3 lifts, then a bunch of volume on a mix of variations of those movements (e.g. RDL or incline bench) plus a different isolation exercise each day. it also incorporates myo-reps which i had never heard of but they sound cool
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# ? Jul 3, 2023 20:20 |
Hed posted:Picked back up in Greyskull LP after coming over from a more dumbbell-centric program. It's been great. It's crazy how tired I am at the end of the day after doing the heavier compound lifts compared to a bunch of dumbbell work. that amrap set is the light and the way
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# ? Jul 4, 2023 03:49 |
c yosfit s: cleaned out the office so I can get back to kettlebelling myself to death
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# ? Jul 4, 2023 03:49 |
double 40kg workouts by the end of the year!
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# ? Jul 4, 2023 03:51 |
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god drat what does that routine look like, thats a lotta weight
post hole digger fucked around with this message at 04:18 on Jul 4, 2023 |
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post hole digger posted:god drat what does that routine look like, thats a lotta weight the game plan is make the 32s feel light (10+ rep max in the press. im at maybe 7 reps on a good day but I haven't been hitting it hard so hopefully gains to come) then start pressing and squatting the 36s a lot and maybe push press with slow negatives with the 40s then hope for the best lol e: weekly thing is like 2 days of double kb clean/press/squat stuff, a few days of swings and getups, and work in some barbell bench, deadlifts, and variations. probably need to be near a 500 deadlift to reliably clean the double 40s skimothy milkerson fucked around with this message at 14:42 on Jul 4, 2023 |
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HamAdams posted:decided to give the barbell medicine powerbuilding template a try and despite the first week being labeled "low stress", day 1 crushed my legs (in my defense i'm coming into this after 2 weeks of no lifting, so i was expecting to feel a little rough). this looks like it'll be a fun program. from what i can tell, the rough idea is to focus strength on the big 3 lifts, then a bunch of volume on a mix of variations of those movements (e.g. RDL or incline bench) plus a different isolation exercise each day. it also incorporates myo-reps which i had never heard of but they sound cool I am doing the sbs hypertrophy program and my mondays are deadlifts, squats, and incline presses and the first 2 absolutely destroy me.
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# ? Jul 4, 2023 15:13 |
skimothy milkerson posted:the game plan is make the 32s feel light (10+ rep max in the press. im at maybe 7 reps on a good day but I haven't been hitting it hard so hopefully gains to come) I hit 7 reps on a poo poo day lets gooo
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# ? Jul 7, 2023 23:53 |
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on the one hand, i was disappointed this morning when i drank a bunch of water and then weighed myself, because i was a bit heavier than the last time i weighed. not by much, but number went wrong direction on the other hand i had to just order some new swim trunks and shorts because while my current pair will be fine for the beach today, i don't like having to put this much effort into keeping my pants on
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# ? Jul 9, 2023 19:20 |
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number go up
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# ? Jul 10, 2023 08:51 |
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fart simpson posted:number go up same but it's my weight, despite tracking my macros and calories for the last week and a half now
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# ? Jul 10, 2023 15:45 |
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Dijkstracula posted:same but it's my weight, despite tracking my macros and calories for the last week and a half now weight loss happens over months
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# ? Jul 10, 2023 15:48 |
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I have been relatively consistent with my 5x5 workouts the past couple weeks, except for a couple days around my birthday. I find it's much easier to do my workouts at lunch when I am WFH. My biggest problem continues to be not eating a ton of snacks at night i fuckin love salty carbs
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# ? Jul 10, 2023 15:48 |
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yeah like not saying to not quantify it, but all this stuff is long term and its better to maybe do like a 6 month checkin after doing stuff consistently for those 6 months the habit and consistency is more important than the numbers it might be hard to reframe it in that way, but think about increasing the number of consecutive sessions or reducing overall caloric load via macros instead or like lift/distance/time maxes instead of weight Share Bear fucked around with this message at 15:53 on Jul 10, 2023 |
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i did more squats two days after doing squats. consistency! number went up (almost back to my norm)
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# ? Jul 10, 2023 15:53 |
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strength training will make you want to eat more and most lifting programs are designed for people looking for maximum muscle growth which means tons of food. it's extremely difficult to do whole body lifting and lose weight at the same time unless you're pretty much perfect with your nutrition [ie actors who have 6 months to get in shape for a superhero role] [also they do tons of roids/hgh]
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# ? Jul 10, 2023 16:14 |
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one of my buds did it step by step: first they dieted and cardio'd real hard to lose a bunch of weight, then when they hit their ideal weight to start from, they began the strength training everyones health goals are different and i def know and understand that weight is a powerful motivating number, but it's not the only way to look at it and there are ways which are also helpful and motivating edit: spelling, active tense Share Bear fucked around with this message at 16:31 on Jul 10, 2023 |
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calorie counting is such a nightmare to me god bless anyone who can it for longer than a couple of weeks.
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# ? Jul 10, 2023 16:26 |
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I did keto for a few months once and it absolutely worked for quick and probably unhealthy weight loss but I love carbs and especially booze way too much.
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# ? Jul 10, 2023 16:28 |
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akadajet posted:weight loss happens over months oh believe me, I know this logically; I wonder if the noise from daily weigh-ins has a bunch of negative unintended consequences
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# ? Jul 10, 2023 16:30 |
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Dijkstracula posted:oh believe me, I know this logically; I wonder if the noise from daily weigh-ins has a bunch of negative unintended consequences there’s some ancient internet nerd workout poo poo that makes this point, ‘trendlines in excel’ is their remedy iirc
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# ? Jul 10, 2023 17:18 |
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update: i weighed myself this morning without drinking a bunch of water, and i guess that i drank more water yesterday than i thought. cause number went down. i know that i have to be losing _so much_ muscle, though, 'cause i aint workin out at all. i have vague plans to do that once i'm at my target weight but at this stage i'm not gonna commit to anything publicly, because while i absolutely love working out with a workout buddy, doing it alone has been successful for me precisely one time. and that was when fitocracy was new and i was gamifying things, and also i was writing a dissertation and "do some dumbbell/bodyweight work" was a great way to take a little break from thinking. i will note that the results weren't near as good as when i was doing barbell work, though. anyway, we'll see how it goes - i've still got 20lbs to go before i hit my target
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# ? Jul 10, 2023 17:22 |
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always gotta weigh yourself before and after a big sweat and any bowel movement to see the diff
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# ? Jul 10, 2023 17:23 |
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yeah i've been weighing on the same day every week, and trying to do it in the morning. i think the recommendation is like 1-2lbs a week, so that's easily overwhelmed by daily noise.post hole digger posted:calorie counting is such a nightmare to me god bless anyone who can it for longer than a couple of weeks. the app on my phone that can scan barcodes plus a scale made it way easier for me. i'm just weighing everything, then scanning the foods and it's super quick. then i make sure i have room for some snacks at night so i still feel somewhat indulgent.
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# ? Jul 10, 2023 22:41 |
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Eeyo posted:the app on my phone that can scan barcodes plus a scale made it way easier for me. i'm just weighing everything, then scanning the foods and it's super quick. then i make sure i have room for some snacks at night so i still feel somewhat indulgent. yeah but what do you do for home made meals? like for example i ate black chick peas + some indian bread for lunch today, how many calories is that? i think its around 500 but it could be more or less since i just guesstimated a serving
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# ? Jul 11, 2023 00:03 |
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simply put every item you just ate into a recipe on the app, get a total for everything combined, and then weigh your portion on a kitchen scale to see what your portion is. repeat this every time you cook anything new. easy,
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# ? Jul 11, 2023 00:22 |
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im just going to become a fat goon powerlifter guy with hunched shoulders and the most insane anterior pelvic tilt you have ever seen in your life. at least i can eat what i want then
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# ? Jul 11, 2023 00:24 |
anecdotally I think you can get away with losing weight fairly rapidly without shedding much muscle at all (as long as you're lifting and eating some protein) until you're getting in to skinnyfat land from fat fat land. people drop a ton of weight and git bigger all the time its fine
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# ? Jul 11, 2023 00:29 |
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triyng to be the type of jacked where you can't touch your back
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# ? Jul 11, 2023 00:51 |
AnimeIsTrash posted:triyng to be the type of jacked where you can't touch your back being a computer toucher because you'll be pretty "jacked" up!!
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# ? Jul 11, 2023 00:58 |
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skimothy milkerson posted:(as long as you're lifting yeah about that
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# ? Jul 11, 2023 01:23 |
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when you're making food you weigh the food. it's not hard. you don't eat "some chickpeas" you weigh out how much it is. if you're cooking for one you only need to mess with recipes for stuff you cook all the time if that's too much effort then ok but it's really not time consuming. it's more annoying when you're cooking for others or multiple meals and portioning part of that - that's when you probably wanna start messing with recipes. "150g chicken, 100g tomato, 100g potato, 1tbsp oil" isn't too hard to do
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# ? Jul 11, 2023 01:28 |
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yeah i often do that, just log the ingredients separately. i often don’t log some of it, like if there’s a bit of tomato sauce i might skip it since it’s usually pretty light. at least for my cooking it’s good enough to log the fats, starches, and proteins since they’ll dominate the calories anyway. then just play it fast and loose with veggies, it’s rarely that much so if you’re within 50% it’s fine. i’ve been using myfitnesspal and yeah the recipe functionality is not great. it’s a worse version of the main tracking part and is really slow. i’ve even broken it by going back and editing recipes, so i’ve had to re-make them which is even more annoying. i tend to just wing it when i cook, i’d love something with like templates or more easily edited foods.
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# ? Jul 11, 2023 01:54 |
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skimothy milkerson posted:anecdotally I think you can get away with losing weight fairly rapidly without shedding much muscle at all (as long as you're lifting and eating some protein) until you're getting in to skinnyfat land from fat fat land. people drop a ton of weight and git bigger all the time its fine Yeah it's extremely, overwhelmingly difficult to gain muscle while losing fat. Basically, your body doesn't want too add extra muscle tissue when it is having to dip into its energy reserves. That doesn't mean that you can't maintain your current muscle mass while losing weight, or at least lose a significantly smaller amount of that muscle mass compared to fat mass. It's just about making sure you keep training. Like, here are my body comp measurements for the year (these are monthly averages of daily measurements, which were done at the same time and in same conditions each day). I started Wegovy (and thus, started losing significant amounts of weight) at the beginning of February. You can see how both fat and muscle have dropped, but fat has dropped much faster. Also, because of this goddamned Wegovy shortage it's been 3 weeks since my last dose. As a result I'm gaining a little bit of weight back, but so far all of those gains seem to be in muscle (while the fat levels are staying steady).
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# ? Jul 11, 2023 01:59 |
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the real problem with calorie counting is restaurant food/takeout. i pretty much have to avoid it outside of a cheat meal every week. you just have no idea how they prepared the food and what's in it so there's no way to accurately track it. unless you get a big chain where they give nutrition info. but like the thai takeout place down the road is just a black box and i don't even try.
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LanceHunter posted:Yeah it's extremely, overwhelmingly difficult to gain muscle while losing fat. Basically, your body doesn't want too add extra muscle tissue when it is having to dip into its energy reserves. That doesn't mean that you can't maintain your current muscle mass while losing weight, or at least lose a significantly smaller amount of that muscle mass compared to fat mass. It's just about making sure you keep training. i'm glad your bone mass isn't falling
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Eeyo posted:the real problem with calorie counting is restaurant food/takeout. i pretty much have to avoid it outside of a cheat meal every week. you just have no idea how they prepared the food and what's in it so there's no way to accurately track it. unless you get a big chain where they give nutrition info. but like the thai takeout place down the road is just a black box and i don't even try. i just automatically assume a takeout meal is about 2 meals worth, so i skip a meal or eat lightly
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AnimeIsTrash posted:i just automatically assume a takeout meal is about 2 meals worth, so i skip a meal or eat lightly When I log a takeout meal from a place that's too small to have the ACA-required calorie info, I'll usually just find something that is roughly equivalent from a similar place that does have calorie info available. It's not perfect, but then again calorie labels themselves can vary up to 20% so you just have to accept some imprecision. Eeyo posted:i'm glad your bone mass isn't falling The advantages of never developing bone-itis!
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anything you're gonna eat is about 100 calories an ounce. this is not so accurate if you have like, an ounce of raw cabbage, or an ounce of butter. but your finished product is gonna be close enough that you can avoid detailed ingredient tracking and still get the key benefits of calorie counting, which come mainly from general awareness of what you're putting in your face
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# ? Jul 11, 2023 03:08 |