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You can knock out enough cinders to open two of the mystery chests in like 15 minutes and get ~8 legendaries which is pretty solid if you’re still looking for any aspects or ancestral gear upgrades. NM dungeons are still probably an overall better use of your time with the new xp rewards and glyph experience though.
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Huh, maybe I should try doing some again. I think I only popped one mysterious chest, didn't get anything very good, and gave up on them.
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StarkRavingMad posted:Yeah, helltides felt particularly useless to me, I'm not sure what the appeal is of doing them over a nightmare dungeon Helltides are useful for the mats and to level up gear after entering a new world tier. That's pretty much it.
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Jul 3, 2023 19:30
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You also get a lot of obols from farming events Mystery chests also drop a bunch of elixirs and some are drop only
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Helltides would be a lot cooler if they dynamically changed the map rather than just having a bunch of mobs hang out in their little isolated zone. Like, have them launch a siege of a town or stronghold or something and have the PCs beat them back
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ninjahedgehog posted:Helltides would be a lot cooler if they dynamically changed the map rather than just having a bunch of mobs hang out in their little isolated zone. Like, have them launch a siege of a town or stronghold or something and have the PCs beat them back It'd really lean into the name. I want my Helltide to have Hellwaves, not Helltrickles. Thick packs of roaming mobs that actively want to do me harm. So much harm.
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I run from event to event in helltides, only stopping for legitimate elite packs (none of those silly buff their allies groups), and when it rains. Oftentimes a mini boss will spawn when it rains. It's good XP since they're your level +2 Easily getting enough cinders for all the mystery chests, even the helltides with three zones.
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Jul 3, 2023 19:40
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Jul 3, 2023 19:44
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Helltides feel like one of those things that will get a lot better whenever WT5 gets put in the game. As it is, you hit like 75-80 and all the danger of dying and losing your shards is gone.
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Jul 3, 2023 19:47
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The most dangerous thing in helltides are the falling meteors. If you’re distracted at all they will kill you quick.
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Does anyone else hear "YOU THERE, HELP US GET OUT OF HERE" and immediately turn around and leave when in a NM dungeon?
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Ice Fist posted:Does anyone else hear "YOU THERE, HELP US GET OUT OF HERE" and immediately turn around and leave when in a NM dungeon? Yes. The events really need a retooling. Like they should start the instant you get within X meters of the speaker who just yells their lines as the fights start. They could also be rebalanced so those 3 adventurers don't explode with no counterplay or the loot is slightly nicer, like at least add obols to that drat limp chest.
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Doomykins posted:Yes. The events really need a retooling. Like they should start the instant you get within X meters of the speaker who just yells their lines as the fights start. They could also be rebalanced so those 3 adventurers don't explode with no counterplay or the loot is slightly nicer, like at least add obols to that drat limp chest. That event in particular I'm pretty sure is almost impossible. They like forgot to add scaling to their health or something so for me they just instantly die if they're sneezed on.
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Helltides are not very fun, I would rather grind NM dungeons. They are nice to double up with quests or other regional exploring though to double dip for things you would already be doing.
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I think Helltides are cool and good for what they seem like they’re intended for. The problem is that’s like 2 hours of game maybe. I haven’t needed to farm souls since I haven’t touched my gear much in like 20 levels. I’m thinking about changing my build to flurry/rapid fire but ugh. Too much effort. Kaddish fucked around with this message at 20:16 on Jul 3, 2023 |
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I'm at level 41 or so and I'm still trying to get a sense of when to sell gear vs when to salvage it. Especially now things like aspects are becoming more relevant, and all that is getting a lot more expensive. How much money should I have in the bank? I'm kind of bouncing between 100k-200k gold.
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Ice Fist posted:Does anyone else hear "YOU THERE, HELP US GET OUT OF HERE" and immediately turn around and leave when in a NM dungeon? Yeah. Don't go hanging out in nightmare dungeons, dumbasses. The last guy who yelled for help was a demon faking it.
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I've only done a helltide farm a few times but one of the times I kept running into free helltide motes from someone else's battles. They were seriously all over the zone and I never saw this presumed person, but I had to have picked up at least 200-250 free motes from just riding around on my horse. My friend told a similar experience in a PVP zone he was running through. He says he was just able to pick up a bunch of currency "that must have been left behind from a battle" and turn it in for a mount or something. I don't have any frame of reference for that as I haven't touched or read about PVP yet. I just started running WT4 dungeons, they must pull from a different pool of dungeons than the WT3 ones? Or a larger one? I'm definitely seeing a bunch of sigils for dungeons that weren't available in WT3. Jelly fucked around with this message at 20:24 on Jul 3, 2023 |
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The Grumbles posted:I'm at level 41 or so and I'm still trying to get a sense of when to sell gear vs when to salvage it. Especially now things like aspects are becoming more relevant, and all that is getting a lot more expensive. How much money should I have in the bank? I'm kind of bouncing between 100k-200k gold. If you plan on playing past level 55 (like into the "repetitive endgame") or so just salvage almost everything until you're 50 The sell value of drops scale up quickly but you're not going to need much until you're rerolling on a perfect or near perfect item
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American McGay posted:15 minutes for a dozen legendaries and some crafting mats seems fine to me. Yeah it's a pretty insignificant amount of time for a chance to get upgrades. And it's fun just running around mindlessly stomping a bunch of stuff for a bit
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Helltides getting a density boost would make them more fun. A lot of moving around looking for good groups. This goes for NM dungeons too. Or quicker cycling events so you can chain them easier. They're still a nice diversion from chain running NM dungeons.
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There should be a helltide chest that costs 2k cinders and is a single guaranteed unique.
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Gwaihir posted:This is not true. im not really 100% sure this is how it works. i have items that ive upgraded to about 800-805 that have the final range of affixes, and then items that are 805 base that do not
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Gwaihir posted:This is not true. Upgrade the 771 to 771+15 and then compare it to your 802+15. The affixes on an item have a base range that depends on its final item power after taking into account upgrades. Each time you upgrade an item (e.g. from 0/5 to 1/5, 1/5 to 2/5, etc.), the possible range as well as its current roll gets increased by 15% of the base. When you upgrade an item, if the item power increases to the breakpoint of a new tier, the highest of which is 725, the base range for the affixes will become higher, the roll will reroll within that new range, and then the range and the current roll get increased by 15% of the base per upgrade level as above. That is, all of the following item powers will have the same possible ranges for their affixes, because their final item power ends up at 725+, and they all have been upgraded 3/5 times: 710+15 771+15 802+15 820+15 However, a 709+15 item will have a lower possible range for its affixes, because it doesn't get pushed past the breakpoint of 725. If you were to upgrade that item to 709+20, the base possible ranges would be higher than any of the above items, because it's now in the 725+ tier, and it has been upgraded one more time than the others. Percentage-based rolls follow the rules above. Flat rolls continue to increase as the item power goes up. Compare the Life on Kill vs the Cooldown Reduction ranges on the helms below that demonstrate all of this:  The CDR range on the 703+25 is higher than the range on the 791+20, because they are both in the 725+ tier, but the legendary helm has been upgraded 5 times whereas the rare has been upgraded 4 times. When you do the final upgrade on the rare to 791+25, they become equal. The Life on Kill range just keeps going up with item power and upgrade level. Dr. Mantis Toboggan fucked around with this message at 20:57 on Jul 3, 2023 |
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They should make cinders automatically get picked up. It sucks having to walk around like a flaming toddler at a piñata massacre when I just wanna go flame another bunch of piñatas.
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The Grumbles posted:I'm at level 41 or so and I'm still trying to get a sense of when to sell gear vs when to salvage it. Especially now things like aspects are becoming more relevant, and all that is getting a lot more expensive. How much money should I have in the bank? I'm kind of bouncing between 100k-200k gold. Sell everything once you get to WT3. Salvage everything prior to that unless you need the cash. Don't harvest aspects unless you are going to use them immediately, or are using them in your build and don't have a spare. Money is 100000% the bottleneck later on. Verviticus posted:im not really 100% sure this is how it works. i have items that ive upgraded to about 800-805 that have the final range of affixes, and then items that are 805 base that do not Your post is right the guy who replied to you is wrong. 725 is the last breakpoint, but upgrading items changes the affix range for everything. The left item is in the 725 bucket, the right item is also in the 725 bucket but with 3 upgrades. It isn't the same thing as item breakpoints. There are some affixes that scale purely off the item level - the top of mind one is +max health. An 800 item level with a max health affix has a higher low/top end roll than a 725. Some aspects also scale off item power rather than being flat percentages. SHISHKABOB posted:Quadratic is f(x) = x^2 You are correct I oversimplified my post into being incorrect.
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auto pickup range should be a little bigger or a little faster for all auto pickups, or maybe just have a button that requires 10% of your resource and hoovers every autopickup on the screen with a fun animationJaytan posted:Your post is right the guy who replied to you is wrong. 725 is the last breakpoint, but upgrading items changes the affix range for everything. The left item is in the 725 bucket, the right item is also in the 725 bucket but with 3 upgrades. It isn't the same thing as item breakpoints. yeah the post below is really good and was saying what i observed but forgot for some reason
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Big brain move is to just know that item power below 775 = fuckin trash and don't worry about any of this silly 625/725 breakpoint nonsense
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Dr. Mantis Toboggan posted:Upgrade the 771 to 771+15 and then compare it to your 802+15. This was confusing as poo poo to read. I get it, but it was painful getting there.
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latinotwink1997 posted:This was confusing as poo poo to read. I get it, but it was painful getting there. yeah, cripes. game dev brain rear end system
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Ice Fist posted:Does anyone else hear "YOU THERE, HELP US GET OUT OF HERE" and immediately turn around and leave when in a NM dungeon? I used to get annoyed at the guaranteed failure events that require you to keep npcs alive. Now I appreciate them for delivering waves of mobs to me for xp and loot.
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Gwaihir posted:yeah, cripes. game dev brain rear end system latinotwink1997 posted:This was confusing as poo poo to read. I get it, but it was painful getting there. The Thing is that it doesn't matter. It's a useful tip for wt3 when you can have a sacred that's a quasi ancestral High IP Good. It doesn't matter what happens to 704 IP gear at upgrade 5 when you should be auto dismantling any gear below 800 Yeah yeah some jewelry is good at 725+, silence pedant
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Thom and the Heads posted:Has the latency in this game been awful for the past like 2 weeks for anyone else or is it just me? nope, it's the game (ddos people)
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satanic splash-back posted:If you plan on playing past level 55 (like into the "repetitive endgame") or so just salvage almost everything until you're 50 I absolutely plan on wringing blood out of this stone yes. It cost £60. That's useful to know about selling, thank you.
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Verviticus posted:auto pickup range should be a little bigger or a little faster for all auto pickups, or maybe just have a button that requires 10% of your resource and hoovers every autopickup on the screen with a fun animation The worst is monsters that don't drop those embers until an annoying little death dance.
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Complaining on the internet once again solved Diablo problems and I just had a level 3 sigil drop in a level 1 dungeon, so now crafting sigils is unlocked and my level 58 character can stop wasting time in level 54 nightmare dungeons. It looks like I can craft sigils up to Tier 20. What's the optimal tier I want to aim for in order to efficiently gain EXP -- enemies 4 levels above me, so Tier 9 or so?
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American McGay posted:There should be a helltide chest that costs 2k cinders and is a single guaranteed unique. Are people able to get that many cinders in one helltide? I thought I was doing pretty good opening 6 of the mysteries chests and one legguards chest. That’s “only” 1125 cinders. Also, is there a new best way to farm gold? I finally got a good weapon upgrade but I can’t do anything with it until I can roll +vulnerable on it and I’m already at 5mil per roll.
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