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One of the complaints people have had about Spider-Man movies over the years is when they try to do too many villains in one film, instead of focusing on just one villain in a movie. This started with Spider-Man 3, where they're trying to juggle Sandman and Harry's Green Goblin and Venom all at the same time. It came up again in discussion about the Amazing Spider-Man movies, where ASM1 has just Dr. Connors as the Lizard, while ASM2 has both Harry's Green Goblin and Electro sharing screen-time. Spider-Man: No Way Home took that argument, directly lifted villains from the other Spider-Man movies, and crammed five villains into a single Spider-Man movie as some way to prove that it can be done. It's like they agreed with the argument for Spider-Man: Homecoming and Spider-Man: Far From Home by focusing on just one major villain for each movie, then decided to say "gently caress it" and take the whole rogue's gallery from the other movies and make it work.
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No Way Home doesn't actually work as a movie. It works as a collection of nostalgic references and memes.
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bawk posted:One of the complaints people have had about Spider-Man movies over the years is when they try to do too many villains in one film, instead of focusing on just one villain in a movie. This started with Spider-Man 3, where they're trying to juggle Sandman and Harry's Green Goblin and Venom all at the same time. Raimi really wanted to do Sandman plus conclude the Green Goblin stuff he'd set up in the earlier films but then the studio insisted he add Gwen Stacy and Venom "for the fans" so they all got crammed in there https://web.archive.org/web/20070903164630/http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/index.php?id=41291
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Jul 4, 2023 02:15
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No Way Home used those many villains as props, not as characters. The story isn't about them; the real conflict is internal to Spider-Man. They're just there to provide the necessary action scenes, not to have their own stories. Gaius Marius posted:No Way Home doesn't actually work as a movie. It works as a collection of nostalgic references and memes. And there's that, yeah. I wouldn't necessarily say that "not working on its own as a movie" is a fatal flaw for a movie that's third in a series and like 40th or whatever in a franchise, though.
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Jul 4, 2023 02:32
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Villain Inflation has been an issue in superhero movies before Spider-Man though, going back to the Batman movies.
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Jul 4, 2023 03:27
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The number of villains in a movie has seemingly always corelated to the number that movie appears in the series, until No Way Home went all in.
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Jul 4, 2023 03:37
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Sir Lemming posted:Villain Inflation has been an issue in superhero movies before Spider-Man though, going back to the Batman movies. I'm not googling that
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Jul 4, 2023 03:53
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An early example is Live and Let Die.
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Amoeba102 posted:An early example is Live and Let Die. lmao
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Jul 4, 2023 04:05
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"Her" and "Outer Wilds" were released by the same company.
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Jul 4, 2023 21:44
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Thank god for Annapurna (interactive, I've never seen Her)
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Jul 4, 2023 21:52
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Keith Starmer has changed his name to Keir Starmer, for some reason.
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3D Megadoodoo posted:Keith Starmer has changed his name to Keir Starmer, for some reason. And he sounds like a less-confident Alan Partridge.
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The first line of Moby-Dick isn't "Call me Ishmael". There's these two short and rambling prefaces before that, where two fictional researchers are introduced to talk about different words for whales, and list 80 different quotes about whales from old books. And from the way they're written I don't think you can say that they're not part of the novel -- so this is the actual opening line: "The pale Usher—threadbare in coat, heart, body, and brain; I see him now."
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The Moon Monster posted:Judged on how well they tormented the living? Do they get into super heaven if they give a toddler rabies? It's a living...
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rollick posted:The first line of Moby-Dick isn't "Call me Ishmael". It's still a good opening.
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The man in black fled across the desert, and the pale usher followed.
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Carthag Tuek posted:The man in black fled across the desert, and the pale usher followed. Who was Justin Bieber following?
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Grassy Knowles posted:Who was Justin Bieber following? huge slam on usher out of nowhere
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Grassy Knowles posted:Who was Justin Bieber following? Offensive, Biebs is much more talented than usher
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Gaius Marius posted:Offensive, Biebs is much more talented than usher It’s best when the child surpasses their father.
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Gaius Marius posted:Offensive, Biebs is much more talented than usher 
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Yeah that take is insane but I don't like either enough to do a comparison on their work
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Maybe more of a fun* fact than anything else but: Cousins.
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On the Awful app, previously unread posts are in grey.
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Captain Splendid posted:On the Awful app, previously unread posts are in grey. They are? 
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Alfred Molina is not in Kiss of the Spider Woman. I always thought it was him and Raul Julia. e: also Alfred Molina is English?? I'm just realising a lot of things about Alfred Molina today I guess rollick has a new favorite as of 23:09 on Jul 10, 2023 |
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Judge John Hodgman isn't an actual judge  For some reason I thought he'd done heaps of different jobs in his career and one of them happened to be being a judge for a number of years before switching to comedy. No, that is entirely false, and I don't know why I thought that.
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rollick posted:Alfred Molina is not in Kiss of the Spider Woman. I always thought it was him and Raul Julia. He's also in Raiders, briefly.
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Sir Lemming posted:He's also in Raiders, briefly. Yup, Satipo, the "throw me the idol, I'll throw you the whip" guy
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Hyperlynx posted:Judge John Hodgman isn't an actual judge Lol, I had the same thought when I'd just heard ads for his show, but I figured it out pretty fast after I actually listened to it. The other John Hodgman realization, of course, was learning that I actually recognized him after all, as the PC in those Mac vs PC ads from forever ago.
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Jul 10, 2023 23:37
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That was actually David Mitchell
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Jul 10, 2023 23:45
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Only in the UK versions.
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Jul 10, 2023 23:46
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rollick posted:Alfred Molina is not in Kiss of the Spider Woman. I always thought it was him and Raul Julia. He plays a psychiatrist in Identity with Ray Liotta and John Cusack and uses his English accent
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Captain Hygiene posted:Only in the UK versions. I just couldn't resist an opportunity to say that
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Brawnfire posted:That was actually David Mitchell Which one? I know you mean the comedian, I just think its funny that there's at least two famous David Mitchells
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Kantesu posted:Which one? I was reading an article about Ray Charles and going "huh, what the gently caress, didn't know he did that sort of thing" all the time until at the end the writer mentioned that obviously the other Ray Charles made some very different kind of music.
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I do not have long COVID. I do have a salt shaker that I accidentally topped up with artificial sweetener, and that's why my food has been tasting bland and weird
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aardwolf posted:I do not have long COVID. I thought I had COVID19 and turns out the bread, ham, and cheese I'd bought were all just completely tasteless.
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Gamle Ole ftw
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