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New Leaf posted:I mean normally I don't have a play until 3 but at least then I'm dropping either Lockjaw-Wasp or Thor. My problem was that Infinaut is a dead draw with this deck so most games he's just chilling in hand
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When Mr. Negative decks collide: (the Limbo used to be a Daily Bugle; I got their Mystique and, based on emotes sent, I think they got my Mr. Negative)
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New Leaf posted:This game is infuriating sometimes. I have "the" HE JaneJaw deck and about 40% of games my opening hand is every 5-6 cost in the deck. Then I don't have an opening play until turn 4, which is a Jubilee who predictably pulls Wasp from the deck because why the gently caress wouldn't she.. This is how Lockjaw decks have always been. Retreat if you don’t have a win condition, snap when you do. The game is not conspiring against you.
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Opopanax posted:I mean half that deck is 5/6 cost, I'm not sure how it's supposed to even work. I guess you just keep throwing Wasp at Lockjaw and hoping for the best? basically, the idea with the archetype is that all of your hits with jubilee/lockjaw are good enough to be close to lane winning on their own and the "smaller" cards you play avoid most tech and deliver a ton of value (i.e. thor is at rate even without mjolnir, which jane fetches along with wasp [and which are then fed to LJ, wave or killmonger can generate a ton of real or virtual value against the right decks, high evo makes wasp better and hulk actually lane winning on its own, etc.) "hoping for the best" works a lot better when you have few/no bad hits (which you can usually calculate rough odds for by just looking at your hand) you definitely get a reasonable number of awkward games that you need to (or at least should) back out of, but the archetype is genuinely very, very, very strong and consistent (far more so than it seems on paper if you haven't seen it action) cirus posted:My problem was that Infinaut is a dead draw with this deck so most games he's just chilling in hand yeah I really think Chavez is better here, as she does good things for you every single game by meaningfully upping your cumulative odds of drawing your desirable early plays, whereas the infinaut is nearly always dead if drawn b/c this just isn't a deck that can afford to take t5 (or t6 in a limbo game) off there's also not much downside to playing her - she's not as instantly lane winning as the infinaut when her roll comes up in the casino, but she's still an adequately large unit, and while you're generally not going to want to play her if she's still in your deck to be drawn on t6 that's usually because your earlier draws have already left you spoiled for choice we have enough high impact cards that one dead draw isn't a big deal, but unfortunately for the infinaut that slot is already taken by high evo himself
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I got better results with Janejaw when I ditched Jubilee for Drac and dropped Odin for Abomination. I also don’t have Magneto, I run Chavez because that feels better, but could see swapping Abonmination for Magneto just for some tech ability. Drac helps so that Abonimation/Infinaut as a starting hand isn’t so crappy, and Jubilee wasn’t doing anything but tempting me to stay in when I should retreat. Odin doesn’t really have a good target - Doom’s OK to hit but things sorta gotta line up well and it’s not as good as it was pre-nerf, and I generally don’t play Doom until T6 anyway
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My HE Lockjaw deck is slowly running out of steam and will probably get replaced soon. Not sure what I will swap out, but so far Infinaut has worked to shield Hulk/useful 6's from Spider Ham and is usually a 1/3 shot of buffing Drac at the end of the game. Of course, the other 2/3 it's Mjolnir or Wasp because I was an idiot who played Jane on T6 and forgot. Also, fine Snap, you get a reprieve for the Pixel Onslaught. For now. 
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Jul 5, 2023 03:19
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I think in Norse mythology that horse is Loki’s baby somehow.
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Loki does have a horse child that he gifted to Odin but it has 8 legs so it looks like Marvel's Odin has more sense than Norse Odin
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Nimrod in my token shop but I don't know if he's expected to move down in series next week? Was gonna grab him + Zola next week to flesh out a few decks I have
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CHaKKaWaKka posted:Loki does have a horse child that he gifted to Odin but it has 8 legs so it looks like Marvel's Odin has more sense than Norse Odin They literally call it the Sleipneir Variant so apparently not
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Jul 5, 2023 04:57
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That fuckin rad Void Merged Sentry variant is in my shop but there's no way I'm spending that kind of gold on a card I so rarely use.. it's so cool though.
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New Leaf posted:That fuckin rad Void Merged Sentry variant is in my shop but there's no way I'm spending that kind of gold on a card I so rarely use.. it's so cool though. I've tried a few times to make a Viper/Sentry deck work as a super-goblin, unfortunately they tend not to work out. Still like the animation.
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Ninurta posted:I've tried a few times to make a Viper/Sentry deck work as a super-goblin, unfortunately they tend not to work out. Still like the animation. I have one that does okay; not top tier but it’s fun to play. You’re playing not so much to win but to make them lose. # (1) The Hood # (2) Luke Cage # (2) Master Mold # (2) Viper # (3) Green Goblin # (3) Rogue # (3) Juggernaut # (3) Beast # (4) Shang-Chi # (4) Enchantress # (4) Sentry # (5) Valkyrie # eyJDYXJkcyI6W3siQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiU2VudHJ5In0seyJDYXJkRGVmSWQiOiJCZWFzdCJ9LHsiQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiVmlwZXIifSx7IkNhcmREZWZJZCI6IlNoYW5nQ2hpIn0seyJDYXJkRGVmSWQiOiJFbmNoYW50cmVzcyJ9LHsiQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiSG9vZCJ9LHsiQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiVmFsa3lyaWUifSx7IkNhcmREZWZJZCI6Ikx1a2VDYWdlIn0seyJDYXJkRGVmSWQiOiJSb2d1ZSJ9LHsiQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiSnVnZ2VybmF1dCJ9LHsiQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiTWFzdGVyTW9sZCJ9LHsiQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiR3JlZW5Hb2JsaW4ifV19 # # To use this deck, copy it to your clipboard and paste it from the deck editing menu in Snap.
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Kalman posted:I have one that does okay; not top tier but it’s fun to play. You’re playing not so much to win but to make them lose. Thanks, I'll add it to my list. Edit: No Master Mold, I'll see what I can come up with as a substitute.
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Ninurta posted:Thanks, I'll add it to my list. I think I had Zabu in there at one point for MM. Less screwing your opponent early, more potential to double up on counters late.
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Ninurta posted:Thanks, I'll add it to my list. As a fellow Master Moldless Sentry-enjoyer, I put Debrii and Polaris in my Viper decks. Sometimes Carnage too as an additional method of clearing Hood/Void
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Opopanax posted:OTOH, I prefer it when the season pass cards aren't meta defining Yeah I want SD to make more weird cards that aren't meta-defining or archetype re-defining every season. E: drat luckily I'd buy the season pass just for those slick colossus/magik variants. Quetzadilla fucked around with this message at 20:44 on Jul 5, 2023 |
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When do we find out what cards (if any) are dropping from Series 4 to Series 3? And when does the drop happen? I've mostly ignored it in the past but now I'm one card away from S3 complete and I'm wondering if I should claim it as my freebie.
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I’m noticing everybody conceding after a round 1 loss in proving grounds, which is fine except I like PG for grinding missions - but I can just start a new matchup, I suppose. It just makes me wish there was a 1-round training wheels mode against a bot for deck testing.
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New Leaf posted:I mean normally I don't have a play until 3 but at least then I'm dropping either Lockjaw-Wasp or Thor. cirus posted:My problem was that Infinaut is a dead draw with this deck so most games he's just chilling in hand You gotta package Infinaut with Dracula. Including Wave in a Lockjaw list runs the risk of braking the Lockjaw fuel with Wasp/Mjolnir/Spider-Ham (if you have it). It doesn't make sense. Another anti-bounce option that favors Dracula is Doctor Octopus. You get to mess up their curve up while giving Dracula another highroll.
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Hobo Clown posted:When do we find out what cards (if any) are dropping from Series 4 to Series 3? And when does the drop happen? I've mostly ignored it in the past but now I'm one card away from S3 complete and I'm wondering if I should claim it as my freebie. Yes you should absolutely claim it. It doesn't look like there will be any series drops this month, but if there are, you will get them within like 10-15 reserves anyway.
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Hmm. So I have 2700 tokens and 22 unopened caches. Do I wait for Spotlight Caches next week or just open them for the tokens. S4 Missing: Master Mold, Negasonic, Snowguard, SM 2099, and Stegron S5 Missing: Howard, Iron Land, Kang, Silk, Living Tribunal tbh nothing big missing and the first series of spotlight caches is Jean Gray, Knull, and Living Tribunal anyways..
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Jul 5, 2023 21:42
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So if Jean grey is dropped on goose and you don't have anything less than a 4 drop are you SoL?
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Snazzy Frocks posted:So if Jean grey is dropped on goose and you don't have anything less than a 4 drop are you SoL? Depends on how her "(if possible)" works. It's possible that Goose negates her effect entirely. Sandwolf posted:Yes you should absolutely claim it. It doesn't look like there will be any series drops this month, but if there are, you will get them within like 10-15 reserves anyway. Thanks, that makes sense. Orka is finally mine!
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Jul 5, 2023 21:57
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Hobo Clown posted:Depends on how her "(if possible)" works. It's possible that Goose negates her effect entirely. The if possible is the stupidest inclusion I've seen yet. What does it mean?? When does impossibility matter????
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It will immediately become clear when the card drops. Snap card text isn’t binding rules text. It’s interface reminder text.
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Snazzy Frocks posted:The if possible is the stupidest inclusion I've seen yet. What does it mean?? When does impossibility matter???? How soon we forget about “etc”.
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I'm still upset that Professor X can't resist Klyntar's effect.
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Nikumatic posted:How soon we forget about “etc”. The etc should also include 'yes this applies to even Jeff and Galactus'
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I don't think there's any better feeling than having M'baku win a game. I always forget about him, but then there he is
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He won me exactly one game while I was farming boosters for cards
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Red posted:I’m noticing everybody conceding after a round 1 loss in proving grounds, which is fine except I like PG for grinding missions - but I can just start a new matchup, I suppose. It just makes me wish there was a 1-round training wheels mode against a bot for deck testing. a large number of people have adopted the proving grounds approach of snap turn 1, whoever loses retreats. its a much faster way of getting the ticket and otherwise you have to play up to 5 more rounds (i think?) if the person who lost round 1 ends up taking it to a win, for much less gain Opopanax posted:I don't think there's any better feeling than having M'baku win a game. I always forget about him, but then there he is any time i see mbaku it makes me smile, even if hes jumping into bar with no name to lose me the round
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Snazzy Frocks posted:The etc should also include 'yes this applies to even Jeff and Galactus' I'm going to guess here that Jeff doesn't have to obey Jean. It wouldn't make sense to make her the singular exception. I'm also going to predict that Jean will be bugged as poo poo. There's no way they will have tested her enough. And a gameplay report: quite difficult to rank up this season. My old favourite Moon Girl + She-Hulk deck didn't seem to work, neither did Bounce. I was able to get High Evo Control to 90 today, but it was a slog. Maybe I'll try a Phoenix deck tomorrow for the rest. Phoenix has been winning against me all day so maybe it's just good?
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Snazzy Frocks posted:So if Jean grey is dropped on goose and you don't have anything less than a 4 drop are you SoL? No. Jean specifically says that you have to play to the location if possible. If Jean is in a location with Goose and you're holding just 4-cost cards, then you can play freely because it is not possible for you to play to Jean's lane. If you're also holding Korg, then you must play Korg to Jean's lane before you can play anything else. Now, obviously I haven't played with the card so I could be wrong. But if I am wrong, Jean is the most degenerate card that could possibly exist because all you'd have to do is play her in a full lane to lock your opponent out of the game completely.
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The ultimate scenario is Jean grey on Morag
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Jedit posted:Now, obviously I haven't played with the card so I could be wrong. But if I am wrong, Jean is the most degenerate card that could possibly exist because all you'd have to do is play her in a full lane to lock your opponent out of the game completely.
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Jedit posted:No. Jean specifically says that you have to play to the location if possible. If Jean is in a location with Goose and you're holding just 4-cost cards, then you can play freely because it is not possible for you to play to Jean's lane. If you're also holding Korg, then you must play Korg to Jean's lane before you can play anything else. But if the lane is full then it's not possible to play there. Thinking about it for a second, this is how it could work: you know when you take a card to play, it shows you the possible locations for it. So maybe with Jean on the board, if you take your first card (any of them), and there are multiple possibilities and one of them is Jean's location, the others will become impossible. But if you can't play on Jean's location, because it is full or there's some other restriction, the others will stay open for play. Reasonably simple. But you could also interpret it differently, like if she's on The Big House, the game could force you to pick a small card (if you have one) to play first, on her location. I guess we'll have to wait and see. Devo posted:As long as they programmed her correctly, Jedit's interpretation should be on the nose. No loving way. Her effect is too weird, it will be bugged as poo poo.
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crestfallen posted:Feels like this is another instance of if possible to me. So I don’t think so, they’d be able to play freely. Exactly, that's my point. The most similar ability to Jean's is Morag, which does the reverse and says you can't play your first card there. But Morag doesn't say "if possible" - it's a hard prohibition. If you cannot play to any other lane then you cannot play, period. That caveat on Jean is enough to tell us what the intent is.
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