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What is the most powerful flying bug?
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🦋 15 3.71%
🦇 115 28.47%
🪰 12 2.97%
🐦 67 16.58%
dragonfly 94 23.27%
🦟 14 3.47%
🐝 87 21.53%
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Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

Horizon Burning posted:

loving incredible how the SMO broke zizek

he’s a naval gazing fat sack of poo poo, which makes his naval gazing much easier, and always has been. his philosophy school is based on Freud 2.0 ffs

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euphronius
Feb 18, 2009

some of his stuff about how ideology shapes reality is nice.

Fat-Lip-Sum-41.mp3
Nov 15, 2003
America has Just Destroyed a Great Empire

Michael Hudson posted:

Herodotus (History, Book 1.53) tells the story of Croesus, king of Lydia c. 585-546 BC in what is now Western Turkey and the Ionian shore of the Mediterranean. Croesus conquered Ephesus, Miletus and neighboring Greek-speaking realms, obtaining tribute and booty that made him one of the richest rulers of his time. But these victories and wealth led to arrogance and hubris. Croesus turned his eyes eastward, ambitious to conquer Persia, ruled by Cyrus the Great.

Having endowed the region’s cosmopolitan Temple of Delphi with substantial silver and gold, Croesus asked its Oracle whether he would be successful in the conquest that he had planned. The Pythia priestess answered: “If you go to war against Persia, you will destroy a great empire.”

Croesus therefore set out to attack Persia c. 547 BC. Marching eastward, he attacked Persia’s vassal-state Phrygia. Cyrus mounted a Special Military Operation to drive Croesus back, defeating Croesus’s army, capturing him and taking the opportunity to seize Lydia’s gold to introduce his own Persian gold coinage. So Croesus did indeed destroy a great empire, but it was his own.

Fast-forward to today’s drive by the Biden administration to extend American military power against Russia and, behind it, China. The president asked for advice from today’s analogue to antiquity’s Delphi oracle: the CIA and its allied think tanks. Instead of warning against hubris, they encouraged the neocon dream that attacking Russia and China would consolidate U.S. control of the world economy, achieving the End of History.

Having organized a coup d’état in Ukraine in 2014, the United States sent its NATO proxy army eastward, giving weapons to Ukraine to fight an ethnic war against its Russian-speaking population and turn Russia’s Crimean naval base into a NATO fortress. This Croesus-level ambition aimed at drawing Russia into combat and depleting its ability to defend itself, wrecking its economy in the process and destroying its ability to provide military support to China and other countries targeted for seeking self-dependency as an alternative to U.S. hegemony.

After eight years of provocation, a new military attack on Russian-speaking Ukrainians was conspicuously prepared, ready to drive toward the Russian border in February 2022. Russia protected its fellow Russian-speakers from further ethnic violence by mounting its own Special Military Operation. The United States and its NATO allies immediately seized Russia’s foreign-exchange reserves held in Europe and North America, and demanded that all countries impose sanctions against importing Russian energy and grain, hoping that this would crash the ruble’s exchange rate. The Delphic State Department expected that this would cause Russian consumers to revolt and overthrow Vladimir Putin’s government, enabling U.S. maneuvering to install a client oligarchy like the one it had nurtured in the 1990s under President Yeltsin.

A byproduct of this confrontation with Russia has been to lock in America’s control over its Western European satellites. The aim of this intra-NATO jockeying was to foreclose Europe’s dream of profiting from closer trade and investment relations with Russia by exchanging its industrial manufactures for Russian raw materials. The United States derailed that prospect by blowing up the Nord Stream gas pipelines, cutting off Germany and other countries from access to low-priced Russian gas. That left Europe’s leading economy dependent on higher-cost U.S. Liquified Natural Gas (LNG).

In addition to having to subsidize domestic European gas to prevent widespread insolvency, a large proportion of German Leopard tanks, U.S. Patriot missiles and other NATO “wonder weapons” are being destroyed in combat against the Russian army. It has become clear that the U.S. strategy is not simply to “fight to the last Ukrainian,” but to fight to the last tank, missile and other weapon being deleted from NATO stocks.

This depletion of NATO’s arms was expected to create a vast replacement market to enrich America’s military-industrial complex. Its NATO customers are being told to increase their military spending to 3 or even 4 percent of GDP. But the weak performance of U.S. and German arms on the Ukrainian battlefield may have crashed this dream, while Europe’s economies are sinking into depression. And with Germany’s industrial economy deranged by the severing of its trade with Russia, German Finance Minister Christian Lindner told the Die Welt newspaper on June 16, 2023 that his country cannot afford to pay more money into the European Union budget, to which it has long been the largest contributor.

Without German exports supporting the euro’s exchange rate, the currency will come under pressure against the dollar as Europe buys LNG and NATO replenishes its depleted weaponry stocks by buying new arms from America. A lower exchange rate will squeeze the purchasing power of European labor, while lowering social spending to pay for rearmament and provide gas subsidies is plunging the continent into a depression.

A nationalist reaction against U.S. dominance is rising throughout European politics, and instead of America locking in its control over European policy, the United States may end up losing – not only in Europe but most crucially throughout the Global South. Instead of turning Russia’s “ruble to rubble” as President Biden promised, Russia’s balance of trade has soared and its gold supply has increased. So have the gold holdings of other countries whose governments are now aiming to de-dollarize their economies.

It is American diplomacy that is driving Eurasia and the Global South out of the U.S. orbit. America’s hubristic drive for unipolar world dominance could only have been dismantled so rapidly from within. The Biden-Blinken-Nuland administration has done what neither Vladimir Putin nor Chinese President Xi could have hoped to achieve in so short a period. Neither was prepared to throw down the gauntlet and create an alternative to the U.S.-centered world order. But U.S. sanctions against Russia, Iran, Venezuela and China have had the effect of protective tariff barriers to force self-sufficiency in what EU diplomat Josep Borrell calls the world “jungle” outside of the US/NATO “garden.”

Although the Global South and other countries have been complaining about U.S. dominance ever since the Bandung Conference of Non-Aligned Nations in 1955, they have lacked a critical mass to create a viable alternative. But their attention has now been focused by the U.S. confiscation of Russia’s official dollar reserves in NATO countries. That dispelled the thought of the dollar as a safe vehicle in which to hold international savings. The Bank of England’s earlier seizure of Venezuela’s gold reserves kept in London – promising to donate them to whatever unelected opponents of its socialist regime U.S. diplomats designate – shows how sterling and the euro as well as the dollar have been weaponized. And by the way, what ever happened to Libya’s gold reserves?

American diplomats avoid thinking about this scenario. They rely to the one unique advantage the United States has to offer. It may refrain from bombing them, from staging a color revolution to “Pinochet” them by the National Endowment for Democracy, or install a new “Yeltsin” giving the economy away to a client oligarchy.

But refraining from such behavior is all that America can offer. It has de-industrialized its own economy, and its idea of foreign investment is to carve out monopoly-rent seeking opportunities by concentrating technological monopolies and control of oil and grain trade in U.S. hands, as if this is economic efficiency, not rent-seeking.

What has occurred is a change in consciousness. We are seeing the Global Majority trying to create an independent and peacefully negotiated choice as to just what kind of an international order they want. Their aim is not merely to create alternatives to the use of dollars, but an entire new set of institutional alternatives to the IMF and World Bank, the SWIFT bank clearing system, the International Criminal Court and the entire array of institutions that U.S. diplomats have hijacked from the United Nations.

The upshot will be civilizational in scope. We are seeing not the End of History but a fresh alternative to U.S.-centered neoliberal finance capitalism and its junk economics of privatization, class war against labor. The idea that money and credit should be privatized in the hands of a narrow financial class instead of being a public utility to finance economic needs and rising living standards is finally facing its reckoning.

The irony is that America’s historical role has been that although it itself was not able to lead the world forward along these lines, its attempts to lock the world into an antithetical imperial system by conquering Russia on the plains of Ukraine and trying to isolate China’s technology (from breaking the U.S. attempt at IT monopoly) have been the great catalysts pushing the global majority away from them.

Fat-Lip-Sum-41.mp3 has issued a correction as of 13:50 on Jul 5, 2023

DancingShade
Jul 26, 2007

by Fluffdaddy

Now that's a modern Kalashnikov.

euphronius
Feb 18, 2009

But U.S. sanctions against Russia, Iran, Venezuela and China have had the effect of protective tariff barriers to force self-sufficiency in what EU diplomat Josep Borrell calls the world “jungle” outside of the US/NATO “garden.”


hahah Jesus Christ


We are seeing not the End of History but a fresh alternative to U.S.-centered neoliberal finance capitalism and its junk economics of privatization, class war against labor. The idea that money and credit should be privatized in the hands of a narrow financial class instead of being a public utility to finance economic needs and rising living standards is finally facing its reckoning.


🙏

xiaoren
Dec 9, 2021

United States of America, иди нахуй

DancingShade
Jul 26, 2007

by Fluffdaddy

euphronius posted:

But U.S. sanctions against Russia, Iran, Venezuela and China have had the effect of protective tariff barriers to force self-sufficiency in what EU diplomat Josep Borrell calls the world “jungle” outside of the US/NATO “garden.”


hahah Jesus Christ

To me the complete and utter lack of self awareness combined with colossal arrogance is just a chef's kiss. It's like every historical movie with a comedy parody fop character that prances about making extravagant demands of everyone who finally gets their comeuppance and ends up in a muddy ditch with their finery ruined.

"But I'm the 15th in line for the Earlship of Worstershire Sauce!" he cries.

bedpan
Apr 23, 2008

DancingShade posted:

To me the complete and utter lack of self awareness combined with colossal arrogance is just a chef's kiss. It's like every historical movie with a comedy parody fop character that prances about making extravagant demands of everyone who finally gets their comeuppance and ends up in a muddy ditch with their finery ruined.

and nothing, not a single thing, will be learned

Honest Thief
Jan 11, 2009
https://twitter.com/shashj/status/1676265608034361344

Cluster bombs are good now

euphronius
Feb 18, 2009

I know what would save way more Ukrainian lives

DancingShade
Jul 26, 2007

by Fluffdaddy

So remember how cluster bombs were considered too dangerous because children and adults would pick up the curious yellow dud things, thinking they were food or relief packages? I have a much safer idea which makes cluster bombs a-ok: Simply make the cluster bomblets matt black or painted with a rocky camo texture so they look like ordinary ground detritus. That way children won't be drawn to them. So they'll be safe. I'm a genius. Cluster bombs now good indeed. And safe!

Oh wow Raytheon just drove up with a giant novelty cheque for my amazing, revolutionary and very good idea.

DancingShade
Jul 26, 2007

by Fluffdaddy

bedpan posted:

and nothing, not a single thing, will be learned

Just wait until I tell mother about this! While prancing off back to the manor, covered in dung.

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
woke cluster bombs

my bony fealty
Oct 1, 2008

DancingShade posted:

So remember how cluster bombs were considered too dangerous because children and adults would pick up the curious yellow dud things, thinking they were food or relief packages? I have a much safer idea which makes cluster bombs a-ok: Simply make the cluster bomblets matt black or painted with a rocky camo texture so they look like ordinary ground detritus. That way children won't be drawn to them. So they'll be safe. I'm a genius. Cluster bombs now good indeed. And safe!

Oh wow Raytheon just drove up with a giant novelty cheque for my amazing, revolutionary and very good idea.

just paint them rainbow

gradenko_2000 posted:

woke cluster bombs

Zodium
Jun 19, 2004


he's right

Honest Thief
Jan 11, 2009

euphronius posted:

I know what would save way more Ukrainian lives

A nuke! I like the way you're thinking, you'll make it big at acme bomb makers

DancingShade posted:

So remember how cluster bombs were considered too dangerous because children and adults would pick up the curious yellow dud things, thinking they were food or relief packages? I have a much safer idea which makes cluster bombs a-ok: Simply make the cluster bomblets matt black or painted with a rocky camo texture so they look like ordinary ground detritus. That way children won't be drawn to them. So they'll be safe. I'm a genius. Cluster bombs now good indeed. And safe!

Oh wow Raytheon just drove up with a giant novelty cheque for my amazing, revolutionary and very good idea.

The rate at which ideology is folding on itself has been astounding to witness

Spaced God
Feb 8, 2014

All torment, trouble, wonder and amazement
Inhabits here: some heavenly power guide us
Out of this fearful country!



DancingShade posted:

So remember how cluster bombs were considered too dangerous because children and adults would pick up the curious yellow dud things, thinking they were food or relief packages? I have a much safer idea which makes cluster bombs a-ok: Simply make the cluster bomblets matt black or painted with a rocky camo texture so they look like ordinary ground detritus. That way children won't be drawn to them. So they'll be safe. I'm a genius. Cluster bombs now good indeed. And safe!

Oh wow Raytheon just drove up with a giant novelty cheque for my amazing, revolutionary and very good idea.

Well it costs too much money to make the also yellow food rations we air drop a different color so this works best

fizzy
Dec 2, 2022

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

euphronius posted:

I know what would save way more Ukrainian lives

Immediate Russian forces' withdrawal from sovereign Ukrainian territory.

And Russia's cessation of their terror bombing campaign.

crepeface
Nov 5, 2004

r*p*f*c*

hudson owns

if you guys haven't seen his series of lectures with radhika desai, they're great.

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLDAi0NdlN8hMl9DkPLikDDGccibhYHnDP

euphronius
Feb 18, 2009

fizzy posted:

Immediate Russian forces' withdrawal from sovereign Ukrainian territory.

And Russia's cessation of their terror bombing campaign.

Russia is not in Ukrainian sovereign territory

KomradeX
Oct 29, 2011

Cerebral Bore posted:

the west has gotten their way by default foreign policywise for so long that they've forgotten that this isn't how things normally work

FF has brought it up before, but the one, two punch of The Gulf War and the Soviet Union collapsing destroyed the Wests ability to interact with reality

AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018


lol

Neurolimal
Nov 3, 2012
When your post-soviet education actively avoids marxism and material analysis you come up with bangers like "putin's going to bomb a nuclear plant because he's literally skeletor"

Cao Ni Ma
May 25, 2010



Some russian sources are saying that Ukraine had to pull 2 brigades back from the front because of losses to reconstitute them. One of them had a 60% casualty rate.

Other telegrams are talking about ukraine continuing to send people to die probing the defensive lines. The last few days have been escalating but no progress has been done outside of some gains in the bakhmut area.

Russia has apparently stopped caring about the bridge dudes. Ukraine sends some guys on boats to one side, russia sends a few missiles their way, ukraine sends more guys on boats replace them. No real tactical success on their side, so russia has settled on suppressing them at a distance

With high casualties, little progress, high draft dodging and a time limit to get poo poo done, there really is a possibility for spicy things happening

Cao Ni Ma has issued a correction as of 14:40 on Jul 5, 2023

Ardennes
May 12, 2002

Cao Ni Ma posted:

Some russian sources are saying that Ukraine had to pull 2 brigades back from the front because of losses to reconstitute them. One of them had a 60% casualty rate.

Other telegrams are talking about ukraine continuing to send people to die probing the defensive lines. The last few days have been escalating but no progress has been done outside of some gains in the bakhmut area.

Russia has apparently stopped caring about the bridge dudes. Ukraine sends some guys on boats to one side, russia sends a few missiles their way, ukraine sends more guys on boats replace them. No real tactical success on their side, so russia has settled on suppressing them at a distance

With high casualties, little progress, high draft dodging and a time limit to get poo poo done, there really is a possibility for spicy things happening

The progress bar for the Russians at this point is judged by the extent of the Ukrainians are able to replenish losses, otherwise, it is just fighting over no-man’s land for the most part.

Cookie Cutter
Nov 29, 2020

Is there something else that's bothering you Mr. President?


lmao. we already used the lovely cluster bombs so it's ok to use the other, different cluster bombs. hell of a justification

sullat
Jan 9, 2012

Endman posted:

if public safety is such a concern, they should establish a committee to deal with it


and I know just who should be on it!



ngl, that is a very nice new suit

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

DancingShade posted:

Locations of both, the nearest woodland to their residence in continental North America that looks vaguely Ukraine-ish. Click to donate, every bit counts.

This reminded me of the Irish guys who pretended to be in Ukraine for gofundme money. They did end up actually going to eastern europe, but as far as I can tell they volunteered at a refugee camp in Poland and never actually went to fight in Ukraine. They haven't posted since last year so I guess they went home.

Cheatum the Evil Midget
Sep 11, 2000
I COULDN'T BACK UP ANY OF MY ARGUEMENTS, IGNORE ME PLEASE.
Orgasmic news for Ukraine! - the secretary of the Ukrainian Security Council has confirmed that the counteroffensive is now not really about seizing territory but harming the enemy, because slow and steady wins the race!

https://twitter.com/OleksiyDanilov/status/1676118862998257664

"At this stage of active hostilities, Ukraine’s Defense Forces are fulfilling the number one task – the maximum destruction of manpower, equipment, fuel depots, military vehicles, command posts, artillery and air defense forces of the russian army. The last few days have been particularly fruitful. Now the war of destruction is equal to the war of kilometers. More destroyed means more liberated. The more effective the former, the more the latter. We are acting calmly, wisely, step by step."

orly
Oct 2, 2005
Probation
Can't post for 8 days!

Cheatum the Evil Midget posted:

Orgasmic news for Ukraine! - the secretary of the Ukrainian Security Council has confirmed that the counteroffensive is now not really about seizing territory but harming the enemy, because slow and steady wins the race!

https://twitter.com/OleksiyDanilov/status/1676118862998257664

"At this stage of active hostilities, Ukraine’s Defense Forces are fulfilling the number one task – the maximum destruction of manpower, equipment, fuel depots, military vehicles, command posts, artillery and air defense forces of the russian army. The last few days have been particularly fruitful. Now the war of destruction is equal to the war of kilometers. More destroyed means more liberated. The more effective the former, the more the latter. We are acting calmly, wisely, step by step."

wait what were they doing before, if not trying to destroy "manpower, equipment, fuel depots" etc?

really queer Christmas
Apr 22, 2014


Lmao at the comments

Lmfao at who wrote them

paul_soccer12
Jan 5, 2020

by Fluffdaddy

Cheatum the Evil Midget posted:

Orgasmic news for Ukraine! - the secretary of the Ukrainian Security Council has confirmed that the counteroffensive is now not really about seizing territory but harming the enemy, because slow and steady wins the race!

https://twitter.com/OleksiyDanilov/status/1676118862998257664

"At this stage of active hostilities, Ukraine’s Defense Forces are fulfilling the number one task – the maximum destruction of manpower, equipment, fuel depots, military vehicles, command posts, artillery and air defense forces of the russian army. The last few days have been particularly fruitful. Now the war of destruction is equal to the war of kilometers. More destroyed means more liberated. The more effective the former, the more the latter. We are acting calmly, wisely, step by step."

Zelensky said the opposite like two days ago??

AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018

Lostconfused
Oct 1, 2008


Make this the new CSPAM background.

AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018

turning the motherland into the fatherland

Cheatum the Evil Midget
Sep 11, 2000
I COULDN'T BACK UP ANY OF MY ARGUEMENTS, IGNORE ME PLEASE.

paul_soccer12 posted:

Zelensky said the opposite like two days ago??

Audacious initiative, superior elan and dash, and on your feet thinking is exactly how the Ukrainians will be able to defeat the hierarchical, unimaginative, and poorly lead Orcish forces! Try to keep up!

samogonka
Nov 5, 2016

Dying for Raythoens' profits

euphronius
Feb 18, 2009

were American troops ever in Ukraine during the Russian civil war ?

Frosted Flake
Sep 13, 2011

Semper Shitpost Ubique

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Delta-Wye
Sep 29, 2005

hummm probably a spaniard

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