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sexy tiger boobs posted:We don't need satellites. If it happens it was Russia. Oh yeah absolutely. But it would be nice to have some kind of video proof even though the people who believe that it wasn't Russia wouldn't believe the video proof anyway. I'm just saying, there's going to be absolute proof.
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Jul 5, 2023 17:01
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Samovar posted:While... I don't want to devolve things into needless slapfighting (so why the hell am I writing this then, huh?) and while I agree the first point is absolute pants-on-heads lunacy, the second point... Has precedence. I called out that particular statement because is specifically popular as a gaslighting method by the parts of the left that want to excuse why they (and the theoretically leftist parties they support/defend) have such a spotty record of attacking fascism themselves. To be fair, the only fascists that leftists/centrists/liberals/whatever can really be relied on fight are the ones that have bloodied them first, and furthermore none of them fight any harder than the other once they know they're in an existiential fight. For example, lot of liberals in the Nazi era played much nicer with the Nazis then anyone should have before and after the war, though at the same time most of the claims of "fought the leftists as hard as the Nazis" glosses over that many of the leftist groups described themselves as existiential threats to the existing democratic order as much as they were to capitalism, and it wasn't idle speech by powerless fringe elements: authoritarian "leftist" regimes were first out the gate in overturning governments, getting taken over from within by bandits, and doing mass killings. And of course the one time, the biggest time when it mattered, authoritarian leftists eventually fought back against the fascists who had attacked them, by joining into an existing coalition of liberals, conservatives, and actual antifascist leftists who had been fighting them for some time already. The main point is that the lens where leftism, particularly authoritarian leftism, displays any kind of unique or consistent opposition to fascism or where liberalism has any sort of unique or consistent capitulation to it is a dishonest one. More than that, it's a deliberate lie long cultivated by the parts of the left with the most skeletons to hide. When it's recited as a known fact there's usually other bullshit nearby.
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Jul 5, 2023 17:04
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Force de Fappe posted:Medieval Chechen warrior: "Aaight, guess I'm gonna leave my hill fort egalitarian homestead and defeat the Mongol hordes for the second time as the only people in history" Lol @ the googly eyes
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Jul 5, 2023 17:05
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Icochet posted:Medieval night vision: can't see poo poo knight vision was a freebie right there
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Jul 5, 2023 17:07
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steinrokkan posted:Lol @ the googly eyes 
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Jul 5, 2023 17:10
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Icept posted:knight vision was a freebie right there Nah
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Jul 5, 2023 17:13
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Remember, liberals will always ally with fascists to crush leftism... which is why we leftists need to ally with the fascists first to crush the liberals!
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Jul 5, 2023 17:33
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*Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact intensifies*
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Jul 5, 2023 17:42
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I'm hearing 2 brigades have already been knocked out and need to be merged. I have zero footage to back this up but trust me bro! I loving love tankies
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Jul 5, 2023 17:57
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Coolguye posted:"locals" Hurr durr I assume you're all in favor of increased war materiel and support for Ukraine, to push the Russians out faster, so that ecological impact assessment and repair can occur? This is the official Do you think all of the post-war rebuilding will be left to the "locals", instead of being cynical about the influence of and role that international
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Jul 5, 2023 17:59
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the holy poopacy posted:Remember, liberals will always ally with fascists to crush leftism... which is why we leftists need to ally with the fascists first to crush the liberals! It just makes sense, -Sun Tzu 
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Jul 5, 2023 17:59
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Damned liberals, they ruined liberalism!
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Jul 5, 2023 18:09
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Are people not aware that radiation travels on wind via particulates or something? That's the only thing I can think of for why someone would think nobody outside the immediate conflict zone would not care about increased health risks and radioactivity
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Jul 5, 2023 18:09
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HonorableTB posted:Are people not aware that radiation travels on wind via particulates or something? That's the only thing I can think of for why someone would think nobody outside the immediate conflict zone would not care about increased health risks and radioactivity From the intelligence that the Russian government is displaying, they probably don't understand the practical reasons why chemical weapons are banned. Because a change in the weather can just as easily turn it back on you.
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Jul 5, 2023 18:12
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HonorableTB posted:Are people not aware that radiation travels on wind via particulates or something? That's the only thing I can think of for why someone would think nobody outside the immediate conflict zone would not care about increased health risks and radioactivity You'd think enough people would have been recommended that "It will keep spreading its poison until the whole continent is dead" Chernobyl scene on YouTube by this point to Get It
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Jul 5, 2023 18:13
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I heard putin is going to drop a "dirty bomb" (a poo poo) on "kiev" (his pants), for "real this time" (again).
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Jul 5, 2023 18:13
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Pretty dope: https://twitch.tv/spacemanlive
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Jul 5, 2023 18:25
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Toxic Mental posted:You'd think enough people would have been recommended that "It will keep spreading its poison until the whole continent is dead" Chernobyl scene on YouTube by this point to Get It Yeah but that was due to continued fissioning, exposed core pile burning and other stuff. Consider Fukushima, definitely a nuclear disaster but not "Japan would be uninhabitable but for a tremendous effort and two enormous sarcophagi"
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Jul 5, 2023 18:26
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HonorableTB posted:Are people not aware that radiation travels on wind via particulates or something? That's the only thing I can think of for why someone would think nobody outside the immediate conflict zone would not care about increased health risks and radioactivity It's not that actors like India and China don't care at all. I don't think any country actively likes the idea of a nuclear incident of any kind happening anywhere (either a powerplant 'accident', or someone breaking the nuclear weapons taboo). But if the main fallout (pun intended) is thousands of KM away from you, and primarily or only really impacts snooty countries (some of who oppressed you in the past and are still a bit racist to you), and who are closely allied to your main rival, there are going to questions as to whether such countries really care enough to significantly change foreign policy course. Especially if Russia manages to throws out enough misinformation, noise and and propaganda to create the impression of doubt and uncertainty about what exactly happened. And this applies even more so if taking any real action (beyond thoughts and prayers, or both sides) means lining alongside your hated geopolitical rival against someone who is supposed to be your geopolitical ally, with who you have an 'unlimited partnership'. You are going to be very tempted to just ignore it, claim the CIA MUST have been behind it, claim even if Russia might theoretically have done it, we can't be certain, and anyway it's America's fault for prolonging the war and supporting Taiw... I mean Ukraine, etc. Some countries are too comfortably stuck in cynical self interest mode. They're wrong, as they underestimate just how pissed off the West is, and that Russia attempts to "escalate to deescalate" threaten to widen the war
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Jul 5, 2023 18:32
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Drone_Fragger posted:I heard putin is going to drop a "dirty bomb" (a poo poo) on "kiev" (his pants), for "real this time" (again). Discord leaks of secret military plans again!? Information warfare for this conflict has been bananas. Like theres a real diaper making GBS threads monkey running things or something. Putin is a real piece of poo poo.
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Jul 5, 2023 19:05
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the holy poopacy posted:Remember, liberals will always ally with fascists to crush leftism... which is why we leftists need to ally with the fascists first to crush the liberals! Gregor Strasser, right before he was shot, yeah?
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Jul 5, 2023 19:10
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Victis posted:Hurr durr we literally just did the one where weirdos vivisect my posts to push some goofy poo poo from outer space and it wasn't very funny the last time, do you have another joke you can tell
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Jul 5, 2023 19:13
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Coolguye posted:we literally just did the one where weirdos vivisect my posts to push some goofy poo poo from outer space and it wasn't very funny the last time, do you have another joke you can tell "Someone ELSE saying I'm stupid?  "In any case, Dwesa posted:Another and more detailed footage of explosion in Makiivika, drone filmed the site before and during the explosion. One thing you can notice from the cookoffs is that this was a staging site for the incendiary grad warheads you would see raining down on Bakhmut and areas on the eastern front, so that's removing a pretty nasty capability (for now) Victis fucked around with this message at 19:27 on Jul 5, 2023 |
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Jul 5, 2023 19:21
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IAEA update:quote:International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) experts present at Ukraine’s Zaporizhzhya Nuclear Power Plant (ZNPP) have in recent days and weeks inspected parts of the facility – including some sections of the perimeter of the large cooling pond – and have also conducted regular walkdowns across the site, so far without observing any visible indications of mines or explosives, Director General Rafael Mariano Grossi said today. https://www.iaea.org/newscenter/pressreleases/update-171-iaea-director-general-statement-on-situation-in-ukraine
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Jul 5, 2023 19:24
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Victis posted:"Someone ELSE saying I'm stupid? i genuinely have no idea what the hell you're on about and your approach makes you look like the psychos who tried to say i espouse beliefs i literally said in the posts they were quoting were provably untrue so like idk
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Jul 5, 2023 19:26
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Wagner was just enforcing the long-standing rule that only the president of russia is allowed to fly in a helicopter over moscow.
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Jul 5, 2023 19:30
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I think at some level, the ethnic supremacist authoritarians in power over India and China would very much like to see Moscow succeed. It would show that ~third way~ media control police states are ascendent and western finger wagging moralists are in decline.
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Jul 5, 2023 19:31
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the holy poopacy posted:Remember, liberals will always ally with fascists to crush leftism... which is why we leftists need to ally with the fascists first to crush the liberals! This is scary accurate.
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Jul 5, 2023 19:42
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Dwesa posted:Another and more detailed footage of explosion in Makiivika, drone filmed the site before and during the explosion. JFC the rockets that fly off into the surrounding neighborhoods.  You'd think that after a year and a half of this stupid war where drones are heavily used by both sides they'd would have realized "hey maybe we shouldn't have this ammo dump completely out in the open." Nope.
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Jul 5, 2023 19:45
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DiomedesGodshill posted:JFC the rockets that fly off into the surrounding neighborhoods. They don't even use pallets for quicker logistics. it's literally a pile of rockets out in the open. Russian logi is both turbo lazy and inefficient. As far as being located right next to a hospital and residential area, well--human shields/guaranteed collateral damage is a feature, not a bug. Edit: VVVV The US, France, and GB threatening to rain (conventional) missile hellfire on their units the likes of which God has never seen probably had something to do with it too. OAquinas fucked around with this message at 20:10 on Jul 5, 2023 |
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Jul 5, 2023 20:04
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Xi allegedly convinced Putin to back down from nuclear threats.  This was later confirmed by Peskov, when he denied it.
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Jul 5, 2023 20:05
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Russia ceases to exist as an entity the moment a nuke detonates, that much is for certain. Even without a nuclear response from the west, the consequences would be incompatible with continued existence as a nation-state
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Jul 5, 2023 20:16
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Strategic Tea posted:I think at some level, the ethnic supremacist authoritarians in power over India and China would very much like to see Moscow succeed. It would show that ~third way~ media control police states are ascendent and western finger wagging moralists are in decline. One of the few upsides of this conflict is it's definitely giving Xi an ulcer.
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Jul 5, 2023 20:22
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yeah the two cats i know who still live in shenzen agree on very little but one thing they concur on is that the war in ukraine is aging xi rapidly.
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Jul 5, 2023 20:25
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Xi probably curses putin every night before going to sleep for loving up his best chance at seizing Taiwan. If the SMO worked as planned and Kyiv fell in a week then I can't imagine that Taiwan wouldn't be in the cards
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Jul 5, 2023 20:25
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there is no way to lead a world power without aging like poo poo, war or no
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Jul 5, 2023 20:26
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OAquinas posted:They don't even use pallets for quicker logistics. it's literally a pile of rockets out in the open. Russian logi is both turbo lazy and inefficient. There has been a photo making the rounds of a pallett being used for... other purposes.
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Jul 5, 2023 20:46
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Burns posted:There has been a photo making the rounds of a pallett being used for... other purposes. He means the "meat pallet" 
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Jul 5, 2023 20:55
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kuarduck posted:He means the "meat pallet" the lurid version is almost definitely false. it's still gross, but it isn't made of people.
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Jul 5, 2023 20:59
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I saw it posted yesterday and i genuinely hope its not true.
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