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CelticPredator posted:Most people love working with him though and have said nothing but praise
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AceOfFlames posted:Shia LeBeouf got him. Maybe it was the Banana Man?
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Sobatchja Morda posted:And Army of the Dead! Although that one might count as "based on every previous Snyder film". The Snyder Cut absolutely wrecked me for this reason - it's entirely a film about parents wanting the best for their kid - Cyborg and his dad, Flash and his Dad, Supes and both of his dads. I watched it just after losing my dad and gaining a niece and a nephew, and with all that and the stuff Snyder had to deal with...drat, it's a proper gut punch. From everything I've seen of Snyder and the way he talks about life and film-making, he must have been a drat cool dad. I'm glad he got to finish it, and I hope it gave him some closure.
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AceOfFlames posted:Now when is Arnie Hammer going to be in one of those He wanted to rape and eat people so I don't think he's ever coming back? He probably will.
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Desert Bus posted:He wanted to rape and eat people so I don't think he's ever coming back? He probably will. He can be the governor of California then, or possibly president
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Captain Monkey posted:edit: that was the wrong thread. This post, whatever it was, didn’t age well
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mind the walrus posted:Oh you mistook me for talking about his coworkers/subordinates whom I wouldn't know jack poo poo about. I was talking about audiences responding to his narrative sensibilities which is a little more empirical to the average Joe. The owl movie he made is pretty much entirely refuting what people keep saying 300 was celebrating complete with the battle-crazed Spartans being the fascist villains.
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Arivia posted:This post, whatever it was, didn’t age well I'm sorry. 
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ishikabibble posted:It's a much larger scale than just romance in movies. I have a lot of friends who draw stuff (including porn) and they frequently see harassment frlm a very vocal online crowd of 'puriteens' who are people who feel like they developed their entire sense of morality exclusively through callout posts. did you read the article you linked, or...? quote:What is somewhat new, however, is a claim shared by many on social media that the anti-kink at Pride stance is increasingly being touted by younger people, reflecting an emerging generational divide in the LGBTQ community. “Sorry to all the puriteens who will never know the unfettered joy of taking your top off inside the Stonewall Inn,” said one prominent activist on Twitter. “I hope you never know the pain of being beaten by a cop for standing up for queer rights.” Another tweeted: “Dear puriteens: We older queerfolk are putting side-eye on your nonsense for a reason. We lived through far worse from people with rhetoric virtually identical to yours. We push back on behalf of the folk who didn’t make it, so history does not repeat.” like I'm not denying your friends might be seeing that poo poo but it's extremely funny to link an article that is directly arguing against your point as though it supports your claim. did you just google "puriteens discourse" and copy and paste the rolling stone link bc it's a legit sounding publication without actually reading it? Metis of the Chat Thread has a new favorite as of 08:43 on Jun 30, 2023 |
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Metis of the Hallway posted:did you read the article you linked, or...? My point wasn't linking it to say it was some widespread thing, but to say it is a vocally outspoken enough minority that it's A Thing in internet discourse. And enough of a thing that even Rolling Stone is reporting on it.  Like even the excerpt you posted ends with quote:That’s not to say it’s nonexistent — it was not difficult for me to find examples of young people arguing against kink at Pride on Twitter and TikTok, though due to their age I’m not going to post any here — but it is to indicate that we’re talking about a point of view that is, if not nonexistent, fairly marginal. It minimizes it but also says posts about it absolutely are a real thing.
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What if grown-rear end adults stopped getting all fired up about what a couple of teens said online at some point? Let teens be stupid in peace.
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I don’t think any of the previous moral panics about what teens post to twitter or tumblr have ever really amounted to anything. Remember when people thought that tumblr teens created the alt right by posting about adult privilege and making long lists of gender identities that they thought could, theoretically, be possible? It turns out that the nazis would have happened anyway and it was just a bunch of kids trying to figure themselves out while not having any self-awareness. Didn’t adults doomsay about you? Participation trophies etc?
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Young people are so amoral that they think gay people should have rights and so puritanical that they aren't giving me grandkids just because I destroyed the planet
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I love to get mad online, but an article that amounts to “someone tweeted something stupid” is hardly going to get my blood going.
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Absurd Alhazred posted:What if grown-rear end adults stopped getting all fired up about what a couple of teens said online at some point? Let teens be stupid in peace. I dgaf apart from them being annoying and harassing my friends I was just offering an explanation for what some dumb tweet earlier was saying.
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ishikabibble posted:I dgaf apart from them being annoying and harassing my friends Not trying to call you out, more the general media coverage of these things, and a lot of the conversation on social media, too.
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Absurd Alhazred posted:What if grown-rear end adults stopped getting all fired up about what a couple of teens said online at some point? Let teens be stupid in peace. Splicer has a new favorite as of 00:33 on Jul 1, 2023 |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugM-dUiiRok It's Pat is a big pile of yikes.
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It’s Pat is the worst movie I’ve ever seen but the one funny thing about the character is that everyone’s obsession with figuring out their gender is as much of the point as their own androgyny. The funniest joke in the movie (that I recall, I was like 12) is when Pat falls down the stairs and says “I crushed my nuts!” and then pulls out a bag of nuts.
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I vaguely recall that the Mars Attacks novelisation included that kind of bottom of the barrel androgyny joke, but I think it wasn't included in any cut of the movie, thankfully
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Mr Interweb posted:can't it just be more likely that people started noticing there's romantic subplots - in many cases, seemingly forced - in pretty much every piece of media that it gets tiring? i actually gave this a bit of thought in recent months and was actually kind of astonished just how ubiquitous romantic relationships are in tv./film/etc. no matter the genre, whether it's action/adventure/comedy/horror/etc., there is almost always at least one love interest involved. and it's almost always with lead characters. why does that need to be a thing? Honestly I swear this seems to be even more of an issue in a LOT of fanfic in my experience. Virtually every emotionally close relationship in the source media (whether it played that way originally or not) featured in the fic is inevitably spun as romantic. I'm not always against changing relationships that way (for one thing it's about the only way to consider any of the LGBTQ possibilities most original works refuse to look at), but it gets irritating when apparently it's impossible for people to care strongly for each other unless they're loving, found family and just strong friendships need not apply. Seen lots of stories where there's a great plot that doesn't rely on any sort of romantic elements that suddenly ends in "they fell in love" without doing any building or foreshadowing of such a relationship between the characters in question, just kind of has to be popped in as the "inevitable" result of people being at all together in the story even if it pretty much craps all over their original characterization to boot. When your romance suddenly kicks in last chapter without any build-up, consider whether it was needed at all. Not that professional stuff doesn't have similar issues but man it seems even more endemic in fan writing. Splicer posted:Our sources not only tell us Greg and Marcie were sitting in the tree, they were also k i s s i n g. You may know that next comes love and then comes marriage, but is that the end of the story? Find out after the break. This kind of reminds me of a related complaint I read in one book once about how all the stories cutting off at "they got married" are rather sinister. "Have you ever read a folktale where the princess's mother gets to do anything but die young? I've never been able to figure out if that's supposed to be a warning or an instruction."
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Henchman of Santa posted:It’s Pat is the worst movie I’ve ever seen You’ve never seen the fifth element?
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oldpainless posted:You’ve never seen the fifth element? Come on.
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LIVE AMMO COSPLAY posted:I vaguely recall that the Mars Attacks novelisation included that kind of bottom of the barrel androgyny joke, but I think it wasn't included in any cut of the movie, thankfully No, it's in the movie. It's the final gag in Pierce Brosnan's press conference.
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thedangergroove posted:No, it's in the movie. It's the final gag in Pierce Brosnan's press conference. Huh. It may have been shortened a tad, but that's still gross
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MadDogMike posted:Honestly I swear this seems to be even more of an issue in a LOT of fanfic in my experience. Virtually every emotionally close relationship in the source media (whether it played that way originally or not) featured in the fic is inevitably spun as romantic. I'm not always against changing relationships that way (for one thing it's about the only way to consider any of the LGBTQ possibilities most original works refuse to look at), but it gets irritating when apparently it's impossible for people to care strongly for each other unless they're loving, found family and just strong friendships need not apply. Seen lots of stories where there's a great plot that doesn't rely on any sort of romantic elements that suddenly ends in "they fell in love" without doing any building or foreshadowing of such a relationship between the characters in question, just kind of has to be popped in as the "inevitable" result of people being at all together in the story even if it pretty much craps all over their original characterization to boot. When your romance suddenly kicks in last chapter without any build-up, consider whether it was needed at all. Not that professional stuff doesn't have similar issues but man it seems even more endemic in fan writing. Yeah that was a real staple of oldskool Star Trek fanfics back in the 1970s and 80s and it kicked off a whole lot of fanfic genres like slash which evolved into shipping. Self-insert characters (which inevitably ended up romancing/being romanced by Kirk or Spock or even both) kicked off the whole Mary Sue thing as well, which is a whole other can of worms My own take is that male equivalents of the 'Mary Sue' stereotype (ie: extraordinarily competent and attractive polymaths who were immediately liked by all sensible people and hated by all evil villains) were pretty much the industry standard back in the heroic action/pulp eras and were never really controversial or brought into question at all, and non-hetero-male equivalents of those characters usually weren't at all available to audiences unless they wrote their own fanfics. 70s fanclub newsletters were the Tumblr of their time
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oldpainless posted:You’ve never seen the fifth element? I intensely dislike most of it, it's not the worst movie ever made by a long way.
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MadDogMike posted:This kind of reminds me of a related complaint I read in one book once about how all the stories cutting off at "they got married" are rather sinister. "Have you ever read a folktale where the princess's mother gets to do anything but die young? I've never been able to figure out if that's supposed to be a warning or an instruction." That sounds very familiar but I can’t place it…what’s that from?
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Henchman of Santa posted:It’s Pat is the worst movie I’ve ever seen Yeah, definitely Tarantino's weakest film.
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Dav posted:That sounds very familiar but I can’t place it…what’s that from? It sounds like Terry Pratchett.
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I just did some actual googling and that's a quote from Lois McMaster Bujold's book A Civil Campaign.
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Today I learned that the director for It's Pat worked on like a dozen of the best tv shows made in the last thirty years
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I wouldn't hold It's Pat against anyone who worked on it (except maybe for Lorne Michaels). It's an SNL film based on a sketch from the era where SNL writers managed about half a good joke a week so anything that did get a laugh was run into the ground. I'm not saying It's Pat has a good joke at its core (or even half of one) but I am saying that it won the coin flip between it and the Makin' Copies guy movie.
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InediblePenguin posted:I just did some actual googling and that's a quote from Lois McMaster Bujold's book A Civil Campaign. That's a great book in a great series, totally worth reading the whole thing. Amusingly, the first book in the series started out as a Star Trek fanfic. Now she's got more Hugos than Heinlein.
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Squashy posted:Today I learned that the director for It's Pat worked on like a dozen of the best tv shows made in the last thirty years
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8one6 posted:coin flip between it and the Makin' Copies guy movie. A real Sliding Doors moment
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mllaneza posted:That's a great book in a great series, totally worth reading the whole thing. Amusingly, the first book in the series started out as a Star Trek fanfic. Now she's got more Hugos than Heinlein. Yeah, probably the funniest in the series, which is saying a lot. I don't generally enjoy comedy which depends on embarrassment but even I couldn't stop cackling at a certain dinner party chapter, particularly with lines like "the party is breaking up (And sinking. All souls feared lost)". Also like the fact the series manages the trick of a likable protagonist whose heart is in the right place but nevertheless is inarguably a real rear end in a top hat sometimes. That's a hard line to keep to.
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8one6 posted:I wouldn't hold It's Pat against anyone who worked on it (except maybe for Lorne Michaels). It's an SNL film based on a sketch from the era where SNL writers managed about half a good joke a week so anything that did get a laugh was run into the ground. Could you be more specific than "1975-2023", please?
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