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before that graph happens there has to be the surge to get everything there and then that graph is depletion during a specific operation. A more accurate graph would have a big spike followed by a declining long tail. your graph would just be part of that tail.
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croup coughfield posted:sorry brd that graph means the covenant has been broken and the us will be destroyed I think everybody is going to be destroyed if things continue to go the way they are going. FF the Air Force has two chartered containerships that it just has sitting, floating, loaded, figure about 10,000 TEUs together based off me guessing from their displacement. You should be able to figure out what you want to know from that
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Hownlong till rust springs a hole in the hull and they sink?
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Did the Ukraine thread vanish cuz I can't find it anymore. Did they gently caress with the title?
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Cpt_Obvious posted:Did the Ukraine thread vanish cuz I can't find it anymore. Did they gently caress with the title? It's called Mass Shootings now.
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Bar Ran Dun posted:I think everybody is going to be destroyed if things continue to go the way they are going. I'm just following up on A-10 chat by observing that even optimistic Conventional Defence planners did not expect a long war along NATO's central front. In light of the expectation that RCAF Baden–Soellingen would be put out of action by initial Soviet strikes*, 4 CMBG not expected to survive more than 2 weeks of combat once it was moved up from II Corps reserve, and 2 CMBG expected to suffer casualties on the way to pick up POMCUS in Norway,** Canadian combat power and supplies for Conventional Defence ran about 14 days. *Yes, with warning, the squadrons based there were expected to disperse to other airfields which would keep the RCAF in combat longer. Without warning, at Zero Hour the RCAF is out of play. ** Though I forget the figures offhand. It depends on if the Soviet subs broke out of the GUIK gap and into open ocean I suppose, and how many airfields in Norway the Soviets put out of action. 
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Cpt_Obvious posted:Did the Ukraine thread vanish cuz I can't find it anymore. Did they gently caress with the title? someone took the suggestion that the thread was hard to find and decided to make it even harder to find see it changed names AGAIN. At least this one is better I guess Cao Ni Ma has issued a correction as of 22:29 on Jul 5, 2023 |
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Frosted Flake posted:I'm just following up on A-10 chat by observing that even optimistic Conventional Defence planners did not expect a long war along NATO's central front. Funny enough in GMT's Red Stom:The Air War Over Central Germany, 1987 you have a campaign that lasts roughly 2 weeks of conventional warfare before both sides use nukes
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Bar Ran Dun posted:I think everybody is going to be destroyed if things continue to go the way they are going. not ideal but ill accept it
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Frosted Flake posted:Ant something? it’s 50ft Ant and he did make up a lot of his stories. my eyes would glaze over once the “salty sea dog tells tall tales” meter filled to maximum on the first paragraph. I think the vibe of “barely trained layabouts messing with expensive hardware” was accurate and based on his experiences but I would not trust any detail.
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Dawncloack posted:Oh man, wasn't that the guy who had to check the wind and other weather stuff to see where he'd have to aim chemicals to kill the maximum number of people? And he became a massive alcoholic because of that? that sounds like the guy!
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croup coughfield posted:not ideal but ill accept it
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China puts advanced WS-15 engines through J-20 stealth fighter paces quote:After two decades of development, China’s most powerful engine has had its maiden flight in one of the country’s most advanced stealth fighters, an upgrade that defence analysts say narrows the technology gap with the United States. It's been a long road for the WS-15. The J-20 was first manufactured with Russian-made AL-31 engines and then switched to the WS-10C due to the delays on when the WS-15.
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bedpan posted:that sounds like the guy! 50ft ant i think you guys mean a lot of his stuff and other goon writing is here https://nothotbutspicy.com/para/
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OhFunny posted:China puts advanced WS-15 engines through J-20 stealth fighter paces
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it'd be funny if the claims the US makes about its gear were exaggerated marketing bullshit and china coming close to actually achieving the stated performance is making US planners poo poo themselves
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crepeface posted:if the claims the US makes about its gear were exaggerated marketing bullshit
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How does China expect to win a war if its state of the art stealth jet isnt down for maintenance at best 50% of the time
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cat botherer posted:Very bold to say that engine narrows the technological gap, rather than widening it. yeah what do china know about plane tech when they don't have the necessary experience at bombing weddings
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I wonder if there is a point when the commenters that are deflecting the actual state of the US military there are simply making the problem even worse, it doesn’t seem close at hand. But yeah, an military not even really geared for a Libya-style campaign may have some issues with a harder fight. The a-10 was expected not to last very long but do a bunch of damage in the process, it’s Gatling gun and load out was designed to put as much firepower they could on an protected airframe. The SU-25 is a similar concept. All this is going to help is Lockmart. But yeah there shipyard issue is a huge one as well and I just don’t see Japan and SK being able to just pick up the slack considering the size and state of the USN. Arguably, China is only going to see more of an advantage on a yearly basis as they are rapidly expanding their fleet while more and more of the USN isn’t battle ready.
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The whole thing with Japanese and Korean shipyards is moot unless the US Congress lifts the ban on USS ships being produced in non-American facilities. I don't see that happening.
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Look, just increase the navy yard service cost by another 300%, Brooklyn Navy Yard owner will kick out the ebike shop and micro brew and artisanal bagel stores and convert it back to a military navy yard for more profit. I dare you to tell me that's not how capitalism works.
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OhFunny posted:The whole thing with Japanese and Korean shipyards is moot unless the US Congress lifts the ban on USS ships being produced in non-American facilities. Having other countries produce your Navy for you is a sure sign of the lack of productive capacity/ability
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OhFunny posted:The whole thing with Japanese and Korean shipyards is moot unless the US Congress lifts the ban on USS ships being produced in non-American facilities. even funnier when japan is a distant third and china is the only one whose civilian shipbuilding is actually profitable
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OhFunny posted:The whole thing with Japanese and Korean shipyards is moot unless the US Congress lifts the ban on USS ships being produced in non-American facilities. it'll happen if it has to but then it will be too late
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Palladium posted:even funnier when japan is a distant third and china is the only one whose civilian shipbuilding is actually profitable Also, the Chinese designed their shipyards to be dual use for a reason.
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If you really think about it, producing ships in chinas backyard cuts down on operating costs because they don't have to be transported with 0 possible downsides.
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Cpt_Obvious posted:If you really think about it, producing ships in chinas backyard cuts down on operating costs because they don't have to be transported with 0 possible downsides. it’s also clearly greener
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stephenthinkpad posted:Look, just increase the navy yard service cost by another 300%, Brooklyn Navy Yard owner will kick out the ebike shop and micro brew and artisanal bagel stores and convert it back to a military navy yard for more profit. I dare you to tell me that's not how capitalism works. They will take the money and then do nothing.
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Bar Crow posted:They will take the money and then do nothing. That's when we send a strongly worded letter...
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Cpt_Obvious posted:If you really think about it, producing ships in chinas backyard cuts down on operating costs because they don't have to be transported with 0 possible downsides. Like the tank factory in Stalingrad driving unpainted t34's straight into battle
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Slavvy posted:Like the tank factory in Stalingrad driving unpainted t34's straight into battle Don't even need to bother with the driving part if the ship gets hit with a missile in the dock, that's efficiency
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The Oldest Man posted:Don't even need to bother with the driving part if the ship gets hit with a missile in the dock, that's efficiency Spawn camping is against treaty
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KomradeX posted:Having other countries produce your Navy for you is a sure sign of the lack of productive capacity/ability Full circle from Armstrong and Elswick building the IJN as Japan first started their navy.
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why would you build ships to rebuild the us navy if it got exploded and you're like right next to china which makes all the things in the world, why not change sides to the one capable of material production
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celadon posted:why would you build ships to rebuild the us navy if it got exploded and you're like right next to china which makes all the things in the world, why not change sides to the one capable of material production Because you've lived an insular life at the top of the capitalist food chain and everyone below you has been taught wrong as a joke so you cannot perceive material reality
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Slavvy posted:Because you've lived an insular life at the top of the capitalist food chain and everyone below you has been taught wrong as a joke so you cannot perceive material reality I can't talk about poo poo that actually passes across my desk, but this is the best explanation for the Canada Medium Howitzer, Canada Light Howitzer, and Canada Medium Self-Propelled Howitzer programs.
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