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Stereotype posted:I’m glad that the American economy is so heavily reliant on the tech sector which is doing such great work innovating with novel products like “twitter but with Facebook branding” and “twitter except not functional” and “plagiarism robot” https://twitter.com/TallBart/status/1676794949814321152
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Jul 6, 2023 13:37
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xiaoren posted:All else equal, doesn't more productive workers mean less workers, though? I think it was 'bullshit jobs' who put it as workplace mgmt as medieval princelings looking to maintain their fiefdoms. So you could have a uber efficent machine but the princelings would still keep headcount for their own status.
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Jul 6, 2023 13:46
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Stereotype posted:I’m glad that the American economy is so heavily reliant on the tech sector which is doing such great work innovating with novel products like “twitter but with Facebook branding” and “twitter except not functional” and “plagiarism robot”
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Jul 6, 2023 14:02
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gradenko_2000 posted:anyway I was reading Bernie Sanders's latest book and he brings up a point that I'd never quite grasped before: the specific way in which automation is pursued, developed, and implemented ends up being expressed in a very specific (one might say "mutated") fashion because of how capitalism means it's only done with the goal of eliminating labor and dodging taxes I have found myself working in industrial process automation/optimization and the way this works is pretty tragic to see. Say you find something that is Better - you improve your telemetry & controls, eliminate variation in process, equipment efficiencies, etc. There are many ways you can 'realize the gains' this creates. You could increase production/whatever with the same amount of equipment and assets. You could keep production the same and lower depreciation and improve cash flow. You can maybe eliminate early equipment failures and reduce catastrophic failures associated with misuse. All sounds nice, but when you run the numbers the absolute most financially beneficial objective to optimize for is cutting peoples jobs. A lot of those other things I mentioned are usually not only lower in $$$ but come with some big error bars - its kind of just guesses until it can be demonstrated. Eliminating positions though is easy for me to track on an excel sheet and can come with some staggeringly large numbers. Even when you get into this stuff without the idea of eliminating jobs, thats what it always circles back to.
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Jul 6, 2023 14:10
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it's difficult for me to believe the official line from Bluesky that they need to keep gatekeeping registrations because they don't have enough infrastructure available to support an influx of users. Part of the whole "cloud computing" concept is that you should be able to deploy large-scale projects very quickly. anyway, all of these Twitter-replacements are going to struggle to find their footing until/unless they provide a feature that'll scan your current Twitter account and then follow you to everyone that already has a matching account on the new platform setting aside something like Threads being preemptively developed to be actively crap
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Jul 6, 2023 14:13
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Cloud computing might have meant something originally but these days it just means "someone else's server rack".
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Jul 6, 2023 14:22
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gradenko_2000 posted:
in this case the real numbers are bad enough there’s not really any need for the lol ones from the tweet though
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Jul 6, 2023 14:26
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gradenko_2000 posted:it's difficult for me to believe the official line from Bluesky that they need to keep gatekeeping registrations because they don't have enough infrastructure available to support an influx of users. Part of the whole "cloud computing" concept is that you should be able to deploy large-scale projects very quickly. I've seen enough minimum viable product code to know that the first neanderthrashing a company puts out can absolutely not be able to properly use cloud-based scaling. Plus, cloud poo poo is expensive. They might be doing all their infra in-house. I don't actually know anything about bluesky though, so that's just supposition on my part.
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Jul 6, 2023 14:29
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gradenko_2000 posted:it's difficult for me to believe the official line from Bluesky that they need to keep gatekeeping registrations because they don't have enough infrastructure available to support an influx of users. Part of the whole "cloud computing" concept is that you should be able to deploy large-scale projects very quickly. It is an online gated community for libs
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Jul 6, 2023 14:32
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https://twitter.com/unusual_whales/status/1676948203751759872?s=20
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Jul 6, 2023 14:45
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Private sector is hiring going long on Trump
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Jul 6, 2023 14:52
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Lol https://twitter.com/DeItaone/status/1676927850731978752?t=gAjGdAddt7ddieKVGmHTLw&s=19 Estimate was 225k
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Jul 6, 2023 14:52
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THE HUMAN RESOURCES DEPARTMENT REMAINS STRONG
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Jul 6, 2023 15:00
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Soft landing https://twitter.com/NickTimiraos/status/1676955057588416518?t=GERp_2n3dZFw6VFKGpH-gw&s=19
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Jul 6, 2023 15:04
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You'd think you'd start to question some assumptions when you're estimates are off by more than half
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Jul 6, 2023 15:06
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Paradoxish posted:You'd think you'd start to question some assumptions when you're estimates are off by more than half won't be doing that
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Jul 6, 2023 15:07
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Paradoxish posted:You'd think you'd start to question some assumptions when you're estimates are off by more than half No, it is reality that is wrong
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Jul 6, 2023 15:12
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DancingShade posted:Cloud computing might have meant something originally but these days it just means "someone else's server rack". Nice rack, too bad it’s woke
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Jul 6, 2023 15:16
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i am harry posted:what was trump doing in 2018-2019 to make it plateau Lead up to brexit probably
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Jul 6, 2023 15:20
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DancingShade posted:Cloud computing might have meant something originally but these days it just means "someone else's server rack". That's all it ever meant Any other meaning was ascribed to it by people who didn't understand the underlying technology behind the conceptual idea
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Jul 6, 2023 15:25
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Mr Hootington posted:Lol these great numbers mean stocks are down 1% lol
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Jul 6, 2023 15:30
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employment up = more money stolen from hard working corporations by lazy employees
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Jul 6, 2023 15:32
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need clarification on the kinds of jobs this is because it sure as hell ain't anywhere in tech lol
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Jul 6, 2023 15:32
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Nothus posted:You're not supposed to say that part out loud
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Jul 6, 2023 15:36
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Orange Devil posted:Also if you do eliminate those jobs your profits will eventually go down because exploiting labour is the only long-term source of profit. Short term you might have reduced your operating costs vs competitors and thus be able to (only slightly) undercut their prices to gain more market share and profits (the delta between your cost savings and your new, only slightly lower price), but as they catch up to your automation innovation, as long as there is competition and you're not in a rent-seeking position, prices will fall all the way to reflect the reduced cost of the manufacturing process minus 10 workers plus the cost of the automation. Counter argument - slash the jobs, keep your price the same, use the increased profit margin to take out loans, buy up your competitors until there are only a handful of companies around who did the same thing, then everybody raises prices by 300% while lamenting increased costs due to insert crisis here in press releases and celebrating massive profits in shareholder conferences. Bam! Everyone wins.
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Jul 6, 2023 15:37
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Paradoxish posted:You'd think you'd start to question some assumptions when you're estimates are off by more than half Not if the estimates are mostly for propaganda purposes
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Jul 6, 2023 15:45
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triple sulk posted:need clarification on the kinds of jobs this is because it sure as hell ain't anywhere in tech lol Plenty of tech jobs out there. My oldest just got a job and he knows 3 other people who just got tech jobs. At the big firms too.
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Jul 6, 2023 15:45
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I love that the stock market drops a ton when ever good job numbers come in lol
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Jul 6, 2023 16:03
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labor is a liability on your balance sheet
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Jul 6, 2023 16:05
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Mr Hootington posted:Plenty of tech jobs out there. My oldest just got a job and he knows 3 other people who just got tech jobs. At the big firms too.
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Jul 6, 2023 16:06
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everything is a bubble. that includes you, your spending habits and your job
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Jul 6, 2023 16:08
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Mr Hootington posted:Plenty of tech jobs out there. My oldest just got a job and he knows 3 other people who just got tech jobs. At the big firms too. that's great but the market is still absolute loving poo poo
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Jul 6, 2023 16:10
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I think you will be successful soon
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Jul 6, 2023 16:17
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Mr Hootington posted:Plenty of tech jobs out there. My oldest just got a job and he knows 3 other people who just got tech jobs. At the big firms too.
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Jul 6, 2023 16:20
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Lol @ the Facebook Twitter clone just not letting you control what you see on your feed from the jump You'll see what we want you to see and like it Now resume scrolling and posting so other Resources can also Scroll should we see fit to show them the work you've done for us
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Jul 6, 2023 16:21
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cat botherer posted:I've got a PhD and 5 years high-level data science experience, and a lot of connections. I got laid off on the 3rd round and haven't found poo poo despite applying to about 500 jobs at this point. I almost got this one job but lost out because they said I was "too engineering-focused." They only asked me engineering questions, of course that's what I'll talk about. Data jobs are in the shitter right now, especially data science. The AI hype caused a wave of demand and now all those people are getting fired because it turns out ai is poo poo. Debase yourself and go back to data engineering if you want to find a decent data job right now. Data analysts and scientists don't want to do the actual data engineering most of the time from my experience.
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Jul 6, 2023 16:24
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Monkey Fracas posted:Lol @ the Facebook Twitter clone just not letting you control what you see on your feed from the jump Facebook Marketplace does the same dumb poo poo so this was inevitable
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Jul 6, 2023 16:25
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Monkey Fracas posted:Lol @ the Facebook Twitter clone just not letting you control what you see on your feed from the jump Libs love it of course because it controls the narrative they want (hopefully)
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Jul 6, 2023 16:27
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Heck Yes! Loam! posted:Data jobs are in the shitter right now, especially data science. The AI hype caused a wave of demand and now all those people are getting fired because it turns out ai is poo poo.
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Jul 6, 2023 16:29
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Stereotype posted:I’m glad that the American economy is so heavily reliant on the tech sector which is doing such great work innovating with novel products like “twitter but with Facebook branding” and “twitter except not functional” and “plagiarism robot”
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