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WoodrowSkillson
Feb 24, 2005

*Gestures at 60 years of Lions history*

help i have listened to the electric callboy cover of every time we touch too many times

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AuBXeF5acqE

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Smirr
Jun 28, 2012

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtgp3B8Nd04

Groke
Jul 27, 2007
New Adventures In Mom Strength

WoodrowSkillson posted:

help i have listened to the electric callboy cover of every time we touch too many times

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AuBXeF5acqE

Those lads know exactly what to do.

Nordick
Sep 3, 2011

Yes.
Cheesy covers?

Aight

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvvXn4CLB9Q

IUG
Jul 14, 2007


Nordick posted:

Cheesy covers?

Aight

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BmhZFV3WbDM

hyper from Pixie Sticks
Sep 28, 2004

Nordick posted:

Cheesy covers?

Hell yeah.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HsYz85Ydnvo

ultrafilter
Aug 23, 2007

It's okay if you have any questions.



This one's apparently fairly popular.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxLSVT_7j-A

VictualSquid
Feb 29, 2012

Gently enveloping the target with indiscriminate love.
Get your cheese right here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oogXPsnvgm8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGJSQ2fQjN8

The reverse version:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcArzldvoGE

And the sexiest video on youtube, made by the ultimate metal band:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sfz9jQ3KI5k

Spanish Manlove
Aug 31, 2008

HAILGAYSATAN

WoodrowSkillson posted:

help i have listened to the electric callboy cover of every time we touch too many times

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AuBXeF5acqE

AIDS

WoodrowSkillson
Feb 24, 2005

*Gestures at 60 years of Lions history*


im sorry you hate fun

Vintersorg
Mar 3, 2004

President of
the Brendan Fraser
Fan Club



Cleansing this page.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIjuDiEkhQI

stab
Feb 12, 2003

To you from failing hands we throw the torch, be yours to hold it high
As always when in covers chat


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4uG7sd-YPmE

ultrafilter
Aug 23, 2007

It's okay if you have any questions.


A couple decent Abba covers:

Beseech - Gimme Gimme Gimme
:nws: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mudeZ089sA :nws:

Therion - Summernight City
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAQwSGGKNhg

WoodrowSkillson
Feb 24, 2005

*Gestures at 60 years of Lions history*

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRhRFh8YKvs

Southern Cassowary
Jan 3, 2023

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnNEmAGLcWg

szary
Mar 12, 2014
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVyBIzxRrvA

Snowy
Oct 6, 2010

A man whose blood
Is very snow-broth;
One who never feels
The wanton stings and
Motions of the sense



The metal cover that lives forever in my heart

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=g13Qlh9btsM&pp=ygUbY2VsdGljIGZyb3N0IG1leGljYW4gcmFkaW8g

Snowy
Oct 6, 2010

A man whose blood
Is very snow-broth;
One who never feels
The wanton stings and
Motions of the sense



Blackbraid got profiled in the NY Times, that guy really seems to know how to get buzz going

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/07/05/...ce=articleShare

quote:

Black metal has long been associated with the gray skies, snowy landscapes and Norse mythology of Scandinavia. Most people know it, if at all, as the musical genre associated with church burnings and gory homicides in early 1990s Norway. (Those events were documented in the book “Lords of Chaos,” which was adapted into a 2019 feature starring Rory Culkin as the misanthropic, occultist musician Euronymous.)

But black metal has expanded and diversified, so much so that the genre’s latest success story, the one-man band Blackbraid, hails from the Adirondacks and draws on its founder’s Native American roots rather than Vikings and medieval weapons.

“I didn’t want to do something ingenuine or be some Indigenous guy who’s writing about Thor and Odin, stuff I have no personal connection to — I want to make a traditional-sounding black metal album, but write something that I can actually identify with,” Blackbraid’s creator, who goes by Sgah’gahsowáh (Mohawk for the witch hawk), said in a video conversation a couple of weeks before the release of his new album, “Blackbraid II,” on Friday.


That record does sound fairly traditional, and relies on black metal’s classic building blocks: shrieked vocals, barrages of ferocious blast beats, guitars buzzing like angry bees.

Yet there is also elbow room within those parameters, and on “Blackbraid II” you can hear a delicately strummed acoustic guitar here, a traditional flute there. Catchy riffs, most notably on the single “The Spirit Returns,” coexist with ambitious tracks like the 13-plus-minute “Moss Covered Bones on the Altar of the Moon,” which waxes and wanes like an epic saga.

Pretty impressive for a one-man band: Sgah’gahsowáh (mononymic aliases are very black metal) composes the material and plays all the instruments except for the drums, which are programmed by his friend Neil Schneider. (Schneider also recorded, mixed and mastered the new album. Blackbraid expands to a five-piece live.)

Sgah’gahsowáh grew up not too far from where he lives now, and started both playing guitar and listening to metal in the late 1990s and early 2000, when he was, as he put it, “barely in middle school.” He did not go for the styles that are popular in the United States, however, like thrash, which is exemplified by Metallica and Megadeth, or death, a brutal assault that came of age in Florida swamps.

“A lot of black metal is just about being depressed or sadness, and a lot of it is based in the solitude and somberness of nature,” he said, adding that growing up in the woods “and also being a moody teenager,” that resonated for him. “And I just liked the music better,” he said.

After a few fruitless efforts on his local scene, he created Blackbraid as a solo endeavor and released his first single, “Barefoot Ghost Dance on Blood Soaked Soil,” in February 2022. Fast-forward 18 months, and Sgah’gahsowáh, an album under his bullet belt and another about to come out, was speaking a few days after playing at the prestigious European festivals Hellfest and Copenhell. Next up is Midgardsblot, a fest held at a former Viking settlement in Norway in August.

“I left my job last year, in April or May, so it’s just about a year of me doing Blackbraid for a career,” he said. (He worked as a carpenter.) “It’s kind of crazy.”

Image
A man in face makeup and a sleeveless shirt sings into a microphone onstage, bathed in red light, as fans near the front hold their hands in the air.

Black metal’s longstanding interest in history, myths and paganism made it a good fit for Sgah’gahsowáh.

Naturally, any rapid rise brings out the doubters, particularly in a genre as passionately niche as black metal, where ultra-limited releases are a badge of authenticity.

“I read that someone thought he was an industry plant and I was like, ‘Dude, black metal isn’t even big enough to have industry,’” Schneider said, laughing, in a video chat. Blackbraid is not signed to a label and the music is self-released.

While it is not remotely mainstream-adjacent, over the past two decades black metal has expanded in the U. S., where the domestic strain is referred to as USBM. Within that, a Native American scene has been percolating with such projects as the California label Night of the Palemoon and bands like Pan-Amerikan Native Front, Ends Embrace and Ixachitlan.

“Black metal has definitely become much more diverse in the last 10, 15 years,” Daniel Lukes, co-editor of the recent collection “Black Metal Rainbows,” said in a video interview. “It has become a place where people feel comfortable expressing their identity, whether it’s gender identity or ethnicity. A band like Blackbraid is certainly part of this opening up. On the other hand,” he continued, “a relationship to ethnicity or Indigenous identity or tradition or heritage has been in black metal from the start.”

Black metal’s longstanding interest in history, myths and paganism made it a good fit for Sgah’gahsowáh — who picked his stage name to honor the land where he lives rather than a specific ancestry, as he was adopted. (His friends call him Jon, but he is cagey about revealing his last name, allowing that it’s easy to find online; he also is discreet about his town’s location, to protect his family’s privacy.)

“There are so many displaced Native Americans all over this continent and it’s a very common misconception that all of us grew up in a reservation and had access to tribal communities,” he said. “That’s kind of how I look at it with Blackbraid — I want to empower those people as well as all the people that are enrolled and living on reservations.”

Image
A man holds up an animal skull with antlers onstage.
“Almost everything I write is a product of nature,” Sgah’gahsowáh said.

Sgah’gahsowáh also connects black metal with Indigenous traditions via his early use of the highly stylized black-and-white facial makeup known as corpse paint; his current look draws less from Scandinavian designs.

“When you look at traditional war paint across the Americas, there’s no difference between that and corpse paint,” he said. “I’ve always thought of it as war paint for Blackbraid anyway. It’s so perfectly intertwined in the black metal aesthetic already.”

One of the reasons Blackbraid’s audience is expanding is that he taps into a big source of inspiration for black metal that happens to be very much on many people’s minds: our connection with the natural world and our ecosystems.

This has long been a part of the Northern European scene (cue countless songs about winter and videos of men traipsing through snowy vistas) and it has thrived within a segment of USBM, led by eco-minded bands like the precursor Agalloch, Wolves in the Throne Room and Panopticon. “Sacandaga,” from the first Blackbraid album, has lyrics like “The passage of time, it slows to a soft whisper/Like wind in the pines as the creek flows softly by,” and the accompanying video is filled with shots of majestic forests and mountains.

“Almost everything I write is a product of nature,” said Sgah’gahsowáh, who describes himself as “a woodsman who likes fishing and stuff,” as well as an avid hiker. “I want to empower Indigenous people, that’s another huge thing, but when it comes down to it, it’s really about nature.”

He added: “I want to take that relationship and somehow translate it into my music, let people feel that as well — especially people that may not really get to spend much time in nature, or live somewhere where it’s not as accessible. I really want that to shine through in my music the most.”

WoodrowSkillson
Feb 24, 2005

*Gestures at 60 years of Lions history*

Snowy posted:

Blackbraid got profiled in the NY Times, that guy really seems to know how to get buzz going

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/07/05/...ce=articleShare

gently caress yeah, hope for nothing but the best for him

remigious
May 13, 2009

Destruction comes inevitably :rip:

Hell Gem
This is a fun game :) https://youtu.be/Uy7a2ovQwK4

Killingyouguy!
Sep 8, 2014

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1i3cBS2kx8

Henchman of Santa
Aug 21, 2010

Snowy posted:

Blackbraid got profiled in the NY Times, that guy really seems to know how to get buzz going

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/07/05/...ce=articleShare

He's got to work in marketing or something.

Philthy
Jan 28, 2003

Pillbug
ordered a Negative Vortex record a long time ago, I have no recollection, but it just showed up today

inside there was a little piece of paper "the limited edition came out pink, the band rejected it, this new color is band approved, play at 45rpm"

my turntable doesnt even do 45

lmao this is some stoner poo poo if i ever saw it

joylessdivision
Jun 15, 2013



Snowy posted:

Blackbraid got profiled in the NY Times, that guy really seems to know how to get buzz going

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/07/05/...ce=articleShare

Hell yeah Blackbraid. Just ordered a copy of the new album on vinyl and I can't wait to stream it tomorrow morning on my way to work.

I can't remember the last time I was this legit hyped for a new metal record to release.

Groke
Jul 27, 2007
New Adventures In Mom Strength

WoodrowSkillson posted:

gently caress yeah, hope for nothing but the best for him

The combination of black metal with indigenous culture only seems too loving natural, really.

Snowy
Oct 6, 2010

A man whose blood
Is very snow-broth;
One who never feels
The wanton stings and
Motions of the sense



Philthy posted:

my turntable doesnt even do 45


What kind of turntable is it? I don’t think I’ve ever seen one that doesn’t do 45

ultrafilter
Aug 23, 2007

It's okay if you have any questions.


Groke posted:

The combination of black metal with indigenous culture only seems too loving natural, really.

It's always struck me as a little odd that there isn't more metal drawing influences from traditional American music and cultures, particularly as that's been a thing in Europe since Bathory. Or is it out there and I've just missed it somehow?

Piss Witch
Oct 23, 2005

Ghost time

Henchman of Santa
Aug 21, 2010

ultrafilter posted:

It's always struck me as a little odd that there isn't more metal drawing influences from traditional American music and cultures, particularly as that's been a thing in Europe since Bathory. Or is it out there and I've just missed it somehow?

If you're talking indigenous people there are a bunch. If you mean like America as we know it look into Ryan Clackner's stuff. He has a bunch of bands that incorporate southern musical traditions into black metal.

Varg
Jan 13, 2007

A friendly face.

ultrafilter posted:

It's always struck me as a little odd that there isn't more metal drawing influences from traditional American music and cultures, particularly as that's been a thing in Europe since Bathory. Or is it out there and I've just missed it somehow?

Panopticon and other than that all I know is the bands who like the old west

Wayfarer
Vital Spirit
SpiritWorld

Henchman of Santa
Aug 21, 2010
SpiritWorld don't really incorporate any actual music of the west as far as I can tell. They just like cowboy imagery.

Vulture Culture
Jul 14, 2003

I was never enjoying it. I only eat it for the nutrients.

WoodrowSkillson posted:

help i have listened to the electric callboy cover of every time we touch too many times

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AuBXeF5acqE
I promised myself I would try not to be a gatekeeper anymore but this is truly Attack Attack levels of cringecore

deadking
Apr 13, 2006

Hello? Charlemagne?!
Crossposting from the black metal thread but Odz Manouk has two new albums out and at least one of them is very good:

https://bloodcolouredbeast.bandcamp.com/album/odz-manouk-bosoragazan

Vulture Culture
Jul 14, 2003

I was never enjoying it. I only eat it for the nutrients.

ultrafilter posted:

It's always struck me as a little odd that there isn't more metal drawing influences from traditional American music and cultures, particularly as that's been a thing in Europe since Bathory. Or is it out there and I've just missed it somehow?
Dark Americana is a thing—a pretty big one if you go deep—but its aesthetics never quite crossed the line into metal. There's a lot of adjacent influences from goth rock to neofolk to psychobilly

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-vpAn15-vE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fijzo90Wznc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86AH-Yxe39g

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxjeFV7Up3E

Vulture Culture fucked around with this message at 22:24 on Jul 6, 2023

skasion
Feb 13, 2012

Why don't you perform zazen, facing a wall?
There’s a decent amount of mesoamerican themed black metal out of Mexico/southwestern US. Easy jump to make from Bathory I guess, basically the same story of “gently caress the colonial god and his church, give me the old guys who liked black magic and blood sacrifice”. Only more recently

Xibalba (the poop album guys not the hc band. though they’re cool too)
https://youtu.be/YtobXXcufag

Mictlantecuhtli
https://youtu.be/LNpT2suQFY8

Maquahuitl
https://youtu.be/PE4Krj-PnGY

hell, one more. Ek
https://youtu.be/AojEn9G46OA

All the following are Black Twilight Circle stuff which is now semi-defunct—it was like a 2010s Les Legions Noires but with Apocalypto instead of Nosferatu

Axeman <—first track on this goes unbelievably hard
https://youtu.be/77Sm9mP4Q0w

Volahn
https://youtu.be/rJfBX4FdQls

Blue Hummingbird on the Left
https://youtu.be/qxa-8WK4CNI

Tliltic Tlapoyauak (compilation, mostly indigenous themed but all over the place in style)
https://youtu.be/WyyMQAccuV8

skasion fucked around with this message at 22:35 on Jul 6, 2023

Henchman of Santa
Aug 21, 2010
A lot of the Native guys are also, paradoxically, Nazis.

e: welp
https://twitter.com/metaltxt/status/1677093825486159872?s=20

Henchman of Santa fucked around with this message at 00:16 on Jul 7, 2023

Deathlove
Feb 20, 2003

Pillbug

Vulture Culture posted:

I promised myself I would try not to be a gatekeeper anymore but this is truly Attack Attack levels of cringecore

Oh, drat, let's go

Dimebags Brain
Feb 18, 2013





Vulture Culture posted:

I promised myself I would try not to be a gatekeeper anymore but this is truly Attack Attack levels of cringecore

It's very bad.

The Voice of Labor
Apr 8, 2020
Probation
Can't post for 3 days!
is yesterday and today metal? I'm can't figure out what the salient differences between metal and hard rock are

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Philthy
Jan 28, 2003

Pillbug

Snowy posted:

What kind of turntable is it? I don’t think I’ve ever seen one that doesn’t do 45

Linn Sondek LP12 from 1980. I could upgrade the motor/ps but it would be way too much for random metal record.

Philthy fucked around with this message at 00:25 on Jul 7, 2023

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