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What is the most powerful flying bug?
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🦋 15 3.71%
🦇 115 28.47%
🪰 12 2.97%
🐦 67 16.58%
dragonfly 94 23.27%
🦟 14 3.47%
🐝 87 21.53%
Total: 404 votes
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Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:
guy just barrelled into the goon fund thread today demanding anyone who says war bad be cut off from funds

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Marenghi
Oct 16, 2008

Don't trust the liberals,
they will betray you
It's kinda hard to form a stabbed in the back myth against the country who's bankrolling your entire state and providing your military equipment.
They need to find someone else to pin the blame on, Germany seems like the obvious choice given their delays in delivering tanks.

Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:

Marenghi posted:

It's kinda hard to form a stabbed in the back myth against the country who's bankrolling your entire state and providing your military equipment.
They need to find someone else to pin the blame on, Germany seems like the obvious choice given their delays in delivering tanks.

they cant say "jews and communists did this" until nato withdraws support

Starsfan
Sep 29, 2007

This is what happens when you disrespect Cam Neely
huh I remember being told off that Ukraine was a ~sovereign nation~ and that it was extremely patronizing to suggest that the United States would be involved in the negotiations to end the war. Suggesting that the United States had standing to be involved in the negotiations was founded in degenerate tankie thought that presupposed that the United States was secretly behind the war and Ukraine wasn't acting as an independent nation in this matter.

Alpha 1
Feb 17, 2012

Marenghi posted:

It's kinda hard to form a stabbed in the back myth against the country who's bankrolling your entire state and providing your military equipment.
They need to find someone else to pin the blame on, Germany seems like the obvious choice given their delays in delivering tanks.

We're going to learn that Ukraine could have won the war if the tankies in the Biden administration had just sent them F-35s. :ukraine:

Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:
oh no theres a ukraine emote????

Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:
:blastu: :ukraine: :blastback:

VoicesCanBe
Jul 1, 2023

"Cóż, wygląda na to, że zostaliśmy łaskawie oszczędzeni trudu decydowania o własnym losie. Jakże uprzejme z ich strony, że przearanżowali Europę bez kłopotu naszego zdania!"

Alpha 1 posted:

The Ukrainian dolchstoßlegende is starting to take its incredibly lame form.
https://twitter.com/olex_scherba/status/1676947008253497352
Lifelong servants of the American empire are now tankies doing imperialism by trying to negotiate an end to the war. Eternal curses to the NGO liberals who taught the Ukrainian government to talk like this.

None of these idiots read the article, otherwise they'd have read the part where the former security officials literally met with Biden's security council afterward to discuss the talks. None of this happened without the Biden administration knowledge.

Marenghi
Oct 16, 2008

Don't trust the liberals,
they will betray you
Biden confirmed as a tankie and fan of Putler.

Deadly Ham Sandwich
Aug 19, 2009
Smellrose

Al! posted:

guy just barrelled into the goon fund thread today demanding anyone who says war bad be cut off from funds

haha god drat

spacemang_spliff
Nov 29, 2014

wide pickle

:berninator::ukraine:

euphronius
Feb 18, 2009

VoicesCanBe posted:

None of these idiots read the article, otherwise they'd have read the part where the former security officials literally met with Biden's security council afterward to discuss the talks. None of this happened without the Biden administration knowledge.

was expecting this after the June offensive failed

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

It's awesome that the same guys who privatized Eastern Europe can now be called "tankies."

Marenghi
Oct 16, 2008

Don't trust the liberals,
they will betray you

euphronius posted:

was expecting this after the June offensive failed

Where else can they go, their Spring offensive didn't begin until June and has been an utter flop. I don't see them being able hold the West's attention over another winter for the 2024 Spring offensive.

euphronius
Feb 18, 2009

I wonder what some realistic terms are ? intl recognition that Russia owns the 4 eastern provinces and crimea, cancelling sanctions, guarantees that Ukraine does not enter nato, maybe also some reparations to Russia ?

redneck nazgul
Apr 25, 2013

Al! posted:

guy just barrelled into the goon fund thread today demanding anyone who says war bad be cut off from funds

you mean the dude who registered the same day dick parasite pregnancy dude got permabanned? :thunk:

Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:

redneck nazgul posted:

you mean the dude who registered the same day dick parasite pregnancy dude got permabanned? :thunk:

i dont know who that is but excellent username

speng31b
May 8, 2010

redneck nazgul posted:

you mean the dude who registered the same day dick parasite pregnancy dude got permabanned? :thunk:

wasn't dickpreg guy the pyf tankies thread dude or am i mixing people up

redneck nazgul
Apr 25, 2013

Al! posted:

i dont know who that is but excellent username

pharoahman777, former prolific PYF tankies poster

someone googled his username since it's a better search than our search, found him using the same name to talk about underage dick parasite pregnancy fetishes

it was brought up on the forums, he basically said "yes and?" and got perma'd

a few months ago he had another alt get sniped in a SAD thread about cspam

tristeham
Jul 31, 2022

lol

double nine
Aug 8, 2013

euphronius posted:

I wonder what some realistic terms are ? intl recognition that Russia owns the 4 eastern provinces and crimea, cancelling sanctions, guarantees that Ukraine does not enter nato, maybe also some reparations to Russia ?

there is no deal ukraine will not violate at the first opportunity

Marenghi
Oct 16, 2008

Don't trust the liberals,
they will betray you

euphronius posted:

I wonder what some realistic terms are ? intl recognition that Russia owns the 4 eastern provinces and crimea, cancelling sanctions, guarantees that Ukraine does not enter nato, maybe also some reparations to Russia ?

I really doubt they'd be reparations. That would cement the war as a failure and America cannot allow that. The captured territory, sanctions gone and no NATO entry. Russia would probably be happy enough with that and the US could still paint it as a stalemate rather than a loss.

And the US walks away with Europe now buying their fracked gas, and the Ukraine economy completely dominated by Blackrock.

V. Illych L.
Apr 11, 2008

ASK ME ABOUT LUMBER

euphronius posted:

I wonder what some realistic terms are ? intl recognition that Russia owns the 4 eastern provinces and crimea, cancelling sanctions, guarantees that Ukraine does not enter nato, maybe also some reparations to Russia ?

that would be a capitulation. even if we assume that ukraine cannot win in the long term, they can inflict enough pain on russia in terms of casualties and bad press that they don't have to accept straight-up surrender - unless their backers threaten to pull support entirely, but why would they?

lobster shirt
Jun 14, 2021

Al! posted:

guy just barrelled into the goon fund thread today demanding anyone who says war bad be cut off from funds

he was kramering, he was sealioning, and most horribly he was jaqing off

VoicesCanBe
Jul 1, 2023

"Cóż, wygląda na to, że zostaliśmy łaskawie oszczędzeni trudu decydowania o własnym losie. Jakże uprzejme z ich strony, że przearanżowali Europę bez kłopotu naszego zdania!"

euphronius posted:

I wonder what some realistic terms are ? intl recognition that Russia owns the 4 eastern provinces and crimea, cancelling sanctions, guarantees that Ukraine does not enter nato, maybe also some reparations to Russia ?

Russia would likely demand Odessa and Mykloaiv oblasts as well to cut off Ukraine's access to the Black Sea which will effectively make Ukraine a useless rump state economically.

OctaMurk
Jun 21, 2013
lol zelensky would literally get disemboweled if he agreed to pay reparations to russia

ScootsMcSkirt
Oct 29, 2013

redneck nazgul posted:

you mean the dude who registered the same day dick parasite pregnancy dude got permabanned? :thunk:

lol now that was certainly a poster

tristeham
Jul 31, 2022

Futanari Damacy posted:

Ukraine asked for SAMs and they got :sam:s

Turtle Sandbox
Dec 31, 2007

by Fluffdaddy

double nine posted:

there is no deal ukraine will not violate at the first opportunity

They only do what we want them to, and Americas word is worthless these days, even our close allies know that, and act accordingly.

Turtle Sandbox
Dec 31, 2007

by Fluffdaddy

Al! posted:

guy just barrelled into the goon fund thread today demanding anyone who says war bad be cut off from funds

Lol, just lmao. Death to America.

Isizzlehorn
Feb 25, 2010

:lesnick::lesnick::lesnick::lesnick::lesnick::lesnick:

redneck nazgul posted:

pharoahman777, former prolific PYF tankies poster

someone googled his username since it's a better search than our search, found him using the same name to talk about underage dick parasite pregnancy fetishes

it was brought up on the forums, he basically said "yes and?" and got perma'd

a few months ago he had another alt get sniped in a SAD thread about cspam

That person needs to take an internet time-out for a year or two, hooboi

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

redneck nazgul posted:

pharoahman777, former prolific PYF tankies poster

someone googled his username since it's a better search than our search, found him using the same name to talk about underage dick parasite pregnancy fetishes

it was brought up on the forums, he basically said "yes and?" and got perma'd

a few months ago he had another alt get sniped in a SAD thread about cspam

That was gradenko who found Pharoahman777's porn accounts.

Cao Ni Ma
May 25, 2010



speng31b posted:

wasn't dickpreg guy the pyf tankies thread dude or am i mixing people up

Same guy

yellowcar
Feb 14, 2010

Alpha 1 posted:

The Ukrainian dolchstoßlegende is starting to take its incredibly lame form.
https://twitter.com/olex_scherba/status/1676947008253497352
Lifelong servants of the American empire are now tankies doing imperialism by trying to negotiate an end to the war. Eternal curses to the NGO liberals who taught the Ukrainian government to talk like this.

that word is utterly meaningless lol

SplitSoul
Dec 31, 2000

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

It's awesome that the same guys who privatized Eastern Europe can now be called "tankies."

Didn't go far enough, obviously.

Also lol that guy is a government official and former ambassador.

January 6 Survivor
Jan 6, 2022

The
Nelson Mandela
of clapping
dusty old cheeks


( o(

redneck nazgul posted:

it was brought up on the forums, he basically said "yes and?" and got perma'd

you know, on one hand I'd kill him in cold blood and consider I did the world a service, but on the other hand you have to respect this kind of poster energy

January 6 Survivor has issued a correction as of 20:51 on Jul 6, 2023

Marenghi
Oct 16, 2008

Don't trust the liberals,
they will betray you

OctaMurk posted:

lol zelensky would literally get disemboweled if he agreed to pay reparations to russia

I mean he's hosed anyway when Ukraine eventually surrenders. I'm sure he has a flight plan ready to fly off to Miami with his billions of dollars he's been siphoning off during this war.

genericnick
Dec 26, 2012

euphronius posted:

I wonder what some realistic terms are ? intl recognition that Russia owns the 4 eastern provinces and crimea, cancelling sanctions, guarantees that Ukraine does not enter nato, maybe also some reparations to Russia ?

Lol, nah. Who would be paying those reparations?

euphronius
Feb 18, 2009

VoicesCanBe posted:

Russia would likely demand Odessa and Mykloaiv oblasts as well to cut off Ukraine's access to the Black Sea which will effectively make Ukraine a useless rump state economically.

right , my suggestion was a compromise

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really queer Christmas
Apr 22, 2014

Organ Fiend posted:

This is true.

However, I don't believe that Russia has any interest in occupying or annexing west Ukraine. There's nothing of value there, and it would just put Nazi partisans inside their borders and loving Poland on their border. Better to leave the Nazis in a Nazistan that also serves as a buffer between Russia and Poland.

So there is a point where Russia has taken everything it could conceivably want, but Ukraine still, technically, exists entirely within Galicia. At this point I think we see a negotiated ceasefire where Russia has everything it wants, and the West doesn't have to concede defeat while simultaneously not needing to pump money and weapons into Ukraine.

I.e. a frozen conflict, like the Korean war.

Russia already borders Poland via kalingrad

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