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Asking the umps is fine. What’s not fine is getting pissy when the ump confirms it’s ok, the guy hits a dinger, and makes a lighthearted gesture to the thing you worried about. Kid did nothing wrong, Martinez needs to get over it.
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MrMidnight posted:drat Angels you just owned by the world's biggest baseball expert. Please don't take him away from us. We will be CURSÉD forever
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Kirios posted:Where's the lie The lie is where he says the stadium looks really nice from the [57] freeway. And also that the Angels haven't had the "of Anaheim" thing in their name for nearly a decade now.
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STAC Goat posted:It’s probably just my general dislike for people being assholes. And if one team pulls some poo poo and the other team hits back. You know, whatever. You asked for it. But in this case Martinez’ concern feels legitimate and asking the umps about it seems like the appropriate action? So Elly’s taunting feels kinda dickish? Yeah Martinez’ post game comments are also unnecessary but like he’s gotta address the first part of it so I get why he’s kind of salty about the latter. I don't like rear end in a top hat players. I just don't see this as an rear end in a top hat moment. Martinez using a very much expected post-game question to double down is being an rear end in a top hat, the non-rear end in a top hat manager would have defended questioning it and left it at that. Imo.
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Milovan Drecun posted:I don't like rear end in a top hat players. I just don't see this as an rear end in a top hat moment. Martinez using a very much expected post-game question to double down is being an rear end in a top hat, the non-rear end in a top hat manager would have defended questioning it and left it at that. Imo. I think the manager was being an rear end in a top hat post game. I think taunting people is also being an rear end in a top hat. So I guess I just think Elly was an rear end in a top hat first. Doesn’t mean Martinez wasn’t an rear end in a top hat. And he’s the grown rear end manager so he should be more mature than the rookie. Again. It’s dumb. I’m dumb. I’m gonna watch some muppets.
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Elly used the bat cover thing in the minors, right? Surely this should have been a scenario covered then
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:Elly used the bat cover thing in the minors, right? Surely this should have been a scenario covered then I mean it was, it’s legal. The other manager just didn’t know that which is fine. EDLC did a little rookie level taunting which makes sense since he’s a rookie. The manager probably should’ve taken the high road after the game but it’s a lot of nothing.
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Darude - Adam Sandstorm posted:hmm that chart says the Jays are good and well Jays having net above average hitting and pitching but still just feeling like losers seems to track pretty well.
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Hand Knit posted:Jays having net above average hitting and pitching but still just feeling like losers seems to track pretty well. Luv 2 play .185 baseball within the division
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Costco Meatballs posted:Baffled that Romero made it and Buehrle did not
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zoux posted:https://twitter.com/idodrums/status/1677031209195671552 BAP BAP BAP 
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STAC Goat posted:I think the manager was being an rear end in a top hat post game. I think taunting people is also being an rear end in a top hat. So I guess I just think Elly was an rear end in a top hat first. Doesn’t mean Martinez wasn’t an rear end in a top hat. And he’s the grown rear end manager so he should be more mature than the rookie. Again. It’s dumb. I’m dumb. I’m gonna watch some muppets. Trust that I'm dumber, enjoy the muppets
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MLB draft starts on Sunday. If you have an Athletic sub, here's KLaw's top 100 with writeups: https://theathletic.com/4584350/2023/07/06/mlb-draft-ranking-prospects-2023-crews-law/Keith Law posted:This is the best draft class I’ve seen since 2011’s epic group, which saw Gerrit Cole, Anthony Rendon, Francisco Lindor, Javier Baez, George Springer, Sonny Gray and Kolten Wong – all of whom have over 20 career rWAR – go in the first round. (That draft’s WAR leader by a country mile is fifth-round pick Mookie Betts, who’s more than 20 WAR ahead of Lindor.)
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The Pussy Boss posted:MLB draft starts on Sunday. If you have an Athletic sub, here's KLaw's top 100 with writeups: https://theathletic.com/4584350/2023/07/06/mlb-draft-ranking-prospects-2023-crews-law/ Still can't believe the Twins moved up eight slots in this thanks to the new lottery lmao
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Milovan Drecun posted:They're also very likely to use that pick on someone outside the established top 5, but yea, it owns Based on stuff I've seen, I don't think that's true unless you've been reading actual reports saying so instead of just assuming they'll cheap out
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I would be surprised if they took one of the younger bats when the team is currently building a core in the majors already. Either Crews or Skenes would make sense as these are both players that will be able to contribute at the MLB level within a year or so.
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IcePhoenix posted:Based on stuff I've seen, I don't think that's true unless you've been reading actual reports saying so instead of just assuming they'll cheap out It's not about cheaping out, I dunno why you would assume that??? I assume everyone spends all their draft money, we went over this with Royce Lewis years ago. Unless someone is actively saying 'cheap Pohlads!', probably safe to assume some level of understanding. The reasoning is the Twins projection models don't love high school players at the top of the draft, and it's likely they'll be choosing the left over one at 5. If that's Walker Jenkins, they might say no, regardless if he is perceived by many as the 5th best player in the draft. Keith Law had them taking Jacob Gonzalez in his most recent mock. He's not the only one to say this either. The Twins are an org who rely on their own scouting and models, not industry consensus (maybe all teams do these days). They like to diversify with their draft picks, and with two more in the top 50, having more money available later can help bring in upside spread over multiple players. FlamingLiberal posted:I would be surprised if they took one of the younger bats when the team is currently building a core in the majors already. Either Crews or Skenes would make sense as these are both players that will be able to contribute at the MLB level within a year or so. I agree in principle, but I think it's a little less about immediate availability (though a factor!), and more their general organizational philosophy of what you're trying to get from the draft. Chase Petty was a wild pick for them, but that was at 26th, and they immediately flipped him.
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FlamingLiberal posted:I would be surprised if they took one of the younger bats when the team is currently building a core in the majors already. Either Crews or Skenes would make sense as these are both players that will be able to contribute at the MLB level within a year or so. Skenes has insane stuff
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Milovan Drecun posted:It's not about cheaping out, I dunno why you would assume that??? Because I've lived around kfan listeners my entire life so I've been conditioned
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IcePhoenix posted:Because I've lived around kfan listeners my entire life so I've been conditioned Harsh but fair
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IcePhoenix posted:Based on stuff I've seen, I don't think that's true unless you've been reading actual reports saying so instead of just assuming they'll cheap out As Milovan says, it's fairly widespread that the Twins are looking more towards college bats in that spot. Now, they've also drafted Royce, Cavaco, and Miller out of HS in the first and comp rounds so it's hardly as if they refuse to grab HS bats. I do assume a good chunk of this is gamesmanship from the front office. The 5th pick, whichever remains, has substantial leverage. Teams know generally how much each guy will expect at their position and all of high schoolers are likely asking well over slot at 1:5 (and I suspect willing to go under slot at 1:3). Why wouldn't you? It's a five player draft, is Falvey really going to draft Teel? And if he does call your bluff, you just bounce off to college, pull down six figures of NIL money, and get drafted in a couple years. So it's in the Twins best interest to ring up Heyman et. al, point to Brooks and Sabato and Larnach and the rest and say "Our models strongly prefer young college kids with elite production, and we could easily get one of those guys cheap and spread the money elsewhere" They might be dead serious about not drafting Jenkins/Clark, but they've got every reason to fan the flames of the Shortstops Jacob even if they plan to draft one of the high schoolers. For what it's worth, Fangraphs is hearing rumors suggesting that the most rumored kids are still prepping for early-mid teens quote:There is some buzz about the Twins taking a contact-oriented college prospect here, but I am also getting indications from teams picking deeper in the first round that some of those players (like Ole Miss shortstop Jacob Gonzalez and Grand Canyon shortstop Jacob Wilson) are still looking for homes in that range. I think Jenkins goes with one of these picks, though if he goes fourth, it’s more likely the Twins cut a deal. ETA: Clark's makeup sounds like Falvine catnip so if he's there and not asking for anything outrageous, I'd be surprised if they let him go. Paracaidas fucked around with this message at 01:52 on Jul 7, 2023 |
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Those are some good points, I hadn't really thought of it being strategic noise. I agree makeup is a huge consideration, it's seemingly why they felt comfortable with Royce (plus the other advantages of drafting him at first overall). I also think power is the last tool they're concerned about in a high schooler, because they're confident in their ability to add it within the organization. That's why I think Clark's tools are a little more tantalizing to them than Jenkins, though I'm no prospect hound and maybe that's selling short Jenkins in some ways. He's also the fringier centerfielder of the two, and that seems against type as well.
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KICK BAMA KICK posted:Max Fried beginning a rehab stint with Gwinnett Sunday, still probably a while after the break before he's back have missed that big curve i wonder what this does to his free agent value, Dodgers might get him for less
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I've been going to collegiate summer league games in Seattle for the DubSea Fish Sticks and it's super loving fun and cheap as poo poo. Highly recommended.
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DR FRASIER KRANG posted:I've been going to collegiate summer league games in Seattle for the DubSea Fish Sticks and it's super loving fun and cheap as poo poo. Highly recommended. They're called the FISH STICKS that better be fun.
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