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FFT posted:The first Terminator movie is also the first reboot. No, the first movie is just a boot.
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nesamdoom posted:This has to be it.
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Jul 6, 2023 11:33
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GazChap posted:As Kyle says while he's being interrogated, "I don't know, I didn't build the loving thing!" Reese also says "I don't know tech stuff" despite being a sergeant in Tech Command. Thus proving that if any fragment of human society will survive a nuclear holocaust, it's nepotism.
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Jul 6, 2023 11:47
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Jedit posted:Reese also says "I don't know tech stuff" despite being a sergeant in Tech Command. Thus proving that if any fragment of human society will survive a nuclear holocaust, it's nepotism. Terminator Salvation should have been a comedy about Connor schlepping Reese up the ranks of the resistance despite Reese being a bumbling idiot.
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Jul 6, 2023 11:52
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credburn posted:Watched this Nic Cage western, "The Old Way," and the Big Showdown takes place in one of those towns that for some reason has absolutely nobody living in it but for a single bartender and prostitute. They shot a Nic Cage movie in Leicester?
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Jedit posted:Reese also says "I don't know tech stuff" despite being a sergeant in Tech Command. Thus proving that if any fragment of human society will survive a nuclear holocaust, it's nepotism. Hey, you don't have to know the underlying theories and principles to be able to cobble together a technical doohickey. He knows enough to make pipe bombs and turn on a time machine, that doesn't mean he knows chemistry or the underlying quantum entanglement theory of the universe.
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Jul 6, 2023 13:48
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Wish I knew how to make pipe bombs and turn on a time machine.
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Jul 6, 2023 14:09
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Randalor posted:Hey, you don't have to know the underlying theories and principles to be able to cobble together a technical doohickey. He knows enough to make pipe bombs and turn on a time machine, that doesn't mean he knows chemistry or the underlying quantum entanglement theory of the universe. Yeah I mean I'm a software developer but if I brought a PC back in time and someone asked me how it worked I'd just shrug and say something about electricity and logic stuff.
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Jul 6, 2023 14:12
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Randalor posted:Hey, you don't have to know the underlying theories and principles to be able to cobble together a technical doohickey. He knows enough to make pipe bombs and turn on a time machine, that doesn't mean he knows chemistry or the underlying quantum entanglement theory of the universe. He also might have been in charge of the security and logistics for the brains. Provisions, power, protection, and procurement
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Jul 6, 2023 14:30
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Morpheus posted:Yeah I mean I'm a software developer but if I brought a PC back in time and someone asked me how it worked I'd just shrug and say something about electricity and logic stuff. We tricked a rock into thinking using magic smoke. Next question.
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Jedit posted:Reese also says "I don't know tech stuff" despite being a sergeant in Tech Command. Thus proving that if any fragment of human society will survive a nuclear holocaust, it's nepotism. And? I bet you there's a whole lot of army guys in the Army Corp of Engineers that aren't engineers. You still need grunts to shovel the dirt the engineers tell them to shovel!
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credburn posted:Watched this Nic Cage western, "The Old Way," and the Big Showdown takes place in one of those towns that for some reason has absolutely nobody living in it but for a single bartender and prostitute. Are these two separate people or is it best to ask her to wash her hands before serving drinks?
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muscles like this! posted:The most recent one, Dark Fate, actually had it so that Skynet was defeated after T2 but another AI rose and just did exactly the same thing. The TV series played around with the idea of multiple timelines where a resistance character met up with someone they knew in the future but they had conflicting histories because things had changed so much. Dark Fate seems to play with the idea that even despite taking out specific people or projects, similar things end up happening because all the conditions to create them are still there.
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Skynet was dumb as hell. If you fight the humans they fight back. What you need to do is encourage their own self-destructive behavior and then sit back and wait.cat botherer posted:Chatbots are cool now: Meanwhile skynet is over there trying to dodge dogs and grow skin on titanium skeletons.
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If you can dodge dogs, you can dodge anything.
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Biplane posted:If you can dodge dogs, you don't post in CSPAM.
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I do like the fact that Terminator goes back not to kill the father of John Connor, because the father could be anyone, but goes directly for the mother. It's just kind of funny because there's so many cultures that only follow the lineage of the father, but these robots figured it out really freaking fast.
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Cowslips Warren posted:I do like the fact that Terminator goes back not to kill the father of John Connor, because the father could be anyone, but goes directly for the mother. It's just kind of funny because there's so many cultures that only follow the lineage of the father, but these robots figured it out really freaking fast. The algorithm is infallible.
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Jul 6, 2023 22:57
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Cowslips Warren posted:I do like the fact that Terminator goes back not to kill the father of John Connor, because the father could be anyone, but goes directly for the mother. It's just kind of funny because there's so many cultures that only follow the lineage of the father, but these robots figured it out really freaking fast. It's not known after Judgement Day who John's father was because the records were lost. Sarah, on the other hand, was a legendary figure in the Resistance for 30 years - canonically she dies a couple of years before the defeat of Skynet - and as she taught John everything he knew she could conceivably have successfully led the war herself. Taking her out is a doubly sound move.
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Jedit posted:It's not known after Judgement Day who John's father was because the records were lost. Sarah, on the other hand, was a legendary figure in the Resistance for 30 years - canonically she dies a couple of years before the defeat of Skynet - and as she taught John everything he knew she could conceivably have successfully led the war herself. Taking her out is a doubly sound move.  The point is that records could be wrong, she might not have known who the father was, etc. the mother is definitive because she, you know, birthed the kid.
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Enderzero posted:
She might have adopted 
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Listening to some director's commentary on the first two Godfather films and, I swear to god, am I the only one who thinks that Diane Keaton loving sucks in these movies? She's so stilted, wooden and stiff in her delivery no matter what scene she's in and nearly every one I watch never feels like a real person speaking or the way anyone talks. I know she's good because I've seen it but, for the life of me, I never understood all the praise she gets for Kate. Even her big "it was an abortion, Micheal this...must...all END" that has "I want an Oscar" written all over it has always sounded ridiculous to me. To the point where I find it distracting even. I realize this is a minority opinion but what is Diane Keaton adding to any scene she's in an GF1 or 2? She's not terrible all the time but at her best she's merely adequate, and certainly not blowing me away. Talia Shire gets ragged on in some circles but I thought she was a lot more believable on screen and her acting never took me out of either movie.
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credburn posted:She might have adopted That would've been a funny joke on Skynet. The plan succeeds, the Terminator kills Sarah, and the only thing that changes in the future is John's last name.
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Crowetron posted:That would've been a funny joke on Skynet. The plan succeeds, the Terminator kills Sarah, and the only thing that changes in the future is John's last name. John Chong'Er
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If only people programmed their killbots to aim gooder. This goes for all killbots.
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Crowetron posted:That would've been a funny joke on Skynet. The plan succeeds, the Terminator kills Sarah, and the only thing that changes in the future is John's last name. Would John have lead the resistance if he hadn't been raised by Sarah? She had foreknowledge of the future and trained him from birth.
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The Picts supposedly had matrilineal descent but male leaders because of that. The mother was known, the father wasn't necessarily. Also at least according to one book I read, they may not have actually believed in fatherhood as being important (or a thing) at all.
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Cowslips Warren posted:I do like the fact that Terminator goes back not to kill the father of John Connor, because the father could be anyone, but goes directly for the mother. It's just kind of funny because there's so many cultures that only follow the lineage of the father, but these robots figured it out really freaking fast.
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The Terminathim wasn't completed in time, so Skynet made due with what it had
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DarkDobe posted:If only people programmed their killbots to aim gooder. Their only weakness is the preset kill limit.
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Enderzero posted:
Of course even that plan wasn't perfect. One thing they dropped in the movie but had in the novelization was the Terminator checking to make sure it killed the right Sarah Connor by cutting open their legs to look for a pin in her leg bones medical records said she had, but she didn't actually have the pin until after she was injured by the Terminator in the ending. So if the plan had gone flawlessly the Terminator would have killed every Sarah Connor and never realized it got the right one. And to go back to the "why do Terminators throw people?" thing a few pages back, I did find it amusing the Terminator Resistance game had a DLC playing as a Terminator where one of your moves is, in fact, to grab and hurl people. I appreciate their willingness to lean into the franchise's tropes even if it is objectively stupid. Also supposedly how Skynet learns Sarah's name to begin with; said Terminator is the one that finds the intel.
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MadDogMike posted:Of course even that plan wasn't perfect. One thing they dropped in the movie but had in the novelization was the Terminator checking to make sure it killed the right Sarah Connor by cutting open their legs to look for a pin in her leg bones medical records said she had, but she didn't actually have the pin until after she was injured by the Terminator in the ending. So if the plan had gone flawlessly the Terminator would have killed every Sarah Connor and never realized it got the right one. That reminds me of two more IIMMs about Terminator. One of the detectives says that the Terminator is killing the Sarah Connors in alphabetical order - first Sarah Anne, then Sarah Louise - because that's how they're listed in the phone book. But there's two problems with this. First, "our" Sarah Connor's middle name is Jeanette. If her middle initial is in the book then she comes before Sarah L, and if it isn't she'd be listed first. Second, why is she in the book at all when she's living in Ginger's apartment? The phone would be in Ginger's name, not hers.
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I just finished watching Nemona. Great movie, love the characters, writing, animation, all of it. But one part bugged me. Later in the film, Ballister and Nemona have just tricked the villain into revealing their evil deeds, and go to celebrate. But then Goldenloin gets Ballister to question if he's actually being tricked by Nemona, which creates the conflict for the final bit of the movie. But Ballister was there when the villain confessed, and he saw Nemona was also there, so it's not like he wasn't sure if he was being deceived! Why would he have any reason to question what had just happened? And if this is the case, he could've told that to Goldenloin, who ostensibly just saw the recording of the villain talking and so might think that'd be Nemona, even though Ballister knows for a fact that it's not.
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Morpheus posted:I just finished watching Nemona. Great movie, love the characters, writing, animation, all of it. But one part bugged me. Later in the film, Ballister and Nemona have just tricked the villain into revealing their evil deeds, and go to celebrate. But then Goldenloin gets Ballister to question if he's actually being tricked by Nemona, which creates the conflict for the final bit of the movie. But Ballister was there when the villain confessed, and he saw Nemona was also there, so it's not like he wasn't sure if he was being deceived! Why would he have any reason to question what had just happened? And if this is the case, he could've told that to Goldenloin, who ostensibly just saw the recording of the villain talking and so might think that'd be Nemona, even though Ballister knows for a fact that it's not. My read was that he wasn't fooled about the murder, just his entire world is built around a particular legendary monster and hero and it appears his new friend has been the legendary (very bad) monster all along Really great movie, though, yeah.
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black mirror last one, with the demon they keep saying "indian" but shouldnt it be "asian"?
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Grendels Dad posted:Terminator Salvation should have been a comedy about Connor schlepping Reese up the ranks of the resistance despite Reese being a bumbling idiot.
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ya it still might not have been a good movie but i agree the original script was way more interesting
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Carthag Tuek posted:black mirror last one, with the demon In what context? Don't remember there being anything particularly odd about it. Side note: Anjana Vasan was great in Lady Parts but I didn't even realise it was her in D79 until halfway through the episode. Couldn't twig where I'd seen her before until she put the leather jacket on.
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darkwasthenight posted:In what context? Don't remember there being anything particularly odd about it. in every context. they are all "british", but the protagonist is called "indian" when i would have thought she would be called "asian" but she was excellent
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Indian was definitely the phrase they world have used in the 70s if they weren't using the P slur.
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