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What is the most powerful flying bug? This poll is closed. |
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15 | 3.71% |
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115 | 28.47% |
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12 | 2.97% |
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67 | 16.58% |
| dragonfly |
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94 | 23.27% |
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14 | 3.47% |
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87 | 21.53% |
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January 6 Survivor posted:
This is a good way of describing it, the actual reality of Ukraine and the Ukrainian civilians is completely ignored
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Jul 7, 2023 19:22
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Frosted Flake posted:Again, evidence from Lebanon is that the actual dud rate is 83x the one claimed by manufacturers. whats the manufacturer claim? like 83x 2% would be 166% duds
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Jul 7, 2023 19:24
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Frosted Flake posted:Again, evidence from Lebanon is that the actual dud rate is 83x the one claimed by manufacturers. What's the claimed rate? 0.3%? Are a quarter of these things duds?
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Jul 7, 2023 19:27
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namesake posted:
We're not going to escalate poo poo: Sunak's not that sort of person and we've got zero capacity to do so anyway. When those charts of military spending appear in the press, the UK's always near the top: the reality is that we're stuck with even more insane grift than the USA, our total land forces are down to 70,000 men and our current force projection capabilities are a few thousand dudes and a single tank regiment, for a week or two, with no reinforcements or new equipment subsequently. The UK isn't escalating poo poo.
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Jul 7, 2023 19:28
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Hatebag posted:What's the claimed rate? 0.3%? Are a quarter of these things duds? They have been claiming 0.0X%. Like 0.06%, while the actual rate runs 5-30%, depending on the munitions in question.
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Jul 7, 2023 19:31
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Cao Ni Ma posted:Russian telegram are calling recent probes by Ukraine "Meat assaults", they are genuinely surprised when they see armor take to the field. Maybe ukraine is saving them for a rainy day. yeah and the most galling thing is that the Nazi vanguard with all their western supplied armor and equipment was immediately pulled out of the offensives south of Orikhiv and around Bakhmut when it became obvious that it wasn't going to fly and instead they are sending the normal people who are probably poor and couldn't get out of being rounded up in one of Ukraines mass mobilization drives off to charge the Russian front.. at least send in the Nazis Ukraine 
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Jul 7, 2023 19:37
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https://twitter.com/BBCWorld/status/1677386669312319505?s=20
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Jul 7, 2023 19:40
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sounds like theyre running out of ammunition
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Jul 7, 2023 19:40
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Frosted Flake posted:They have been claiming 0.0X%. Like 0.06%, while the actual rate runs 5-30%, depending on the munitions in question. huh, seems bad. Looks like the pentagon claims 2-6%. Are the reported dud rates per cluster or per bomblet? Like are up to 30% of the individual bomblets going to be uxo or does that mean at least one bomblet from a cluster doesn't explode? I'd assume the us would mostly be shipping artillery cluster canisters
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Jul 7, 2023 19:45
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 U.S. Honest John missile warhead cutaway around 1960, showing M134 bomblets filled with Sarin Demon cracker nation
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Jul 7, 2023 19:51
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Al! posted:sounds like theyre running out of ammunition We're really trying to edge Russia into giving us "just cause" aren't we
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Jul 7, 2023 19:51
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Frosted Flake posted:Okay, I uploaded this for the thread's enjoyment and to forestall MLMP quibbling over details with people who don't have a pam in front of them,
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Jul 7, 2023 19:53
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Hatebag posted:
looks like this inspired“the rock” chemical weapon?
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Jul 7, 2023 19:54
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Jesus fuckin christ there's a lot of cluster bomb types. The Area denial artillery munition (ADAM) is a cluster bomb that shits out landmines. Doubling down on crimes against humanity i suppose. There's also one that shoots out a huge mess of conductive tendrils for shorting out electrical transmission facilities. Real sicko poo poo
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Jul 7, 2023 19:59
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Jel Shaker posted:looks like this inspired“the rock” chemical weapon? Oh yeah lol it's the exact thing. That's a fun movie
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Jul 7, 2023 20:00
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Jel Shaker posted:looks like this inspired“the rock” chemical weapon? which then inspired some absolutely insane iraqi WMD allegations. america is an ouroboros making GBS threads down its own throat
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Jul 7, 2023 20:05
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Jel Shaker posted:looks like this inspired“the rock” chemical weapon? https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/jul/06/movie-plot-the-rock-inspired-mi6-sources-iraqi-weapons-claim-chilcot-report Edit: Too slow
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Jul 7, 2023 20:06
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Very glad I took FF's online course in Artillery Usage so that I know this is essentially the same as firing no shells a day.
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Jul 7, 2023 20:09
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Frosted Flake posted:Again, evidence from Lebanon is that the actual dud rate is 83x the one claimed by manufacturers. A big pitch of all this is that the US stockpile has been sitting around for too long and is about to expire anyway, so what we do give to Ukraine is likely to be even more defective.
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Jul 7, 2023 20:10
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Ukraine is firing artillery but I think it's more at specific targets in the rear, or at Russian artillery, or other things they consider a priority. They're trying to hit the Russian army where they can do some damage, but it's more an attempt to weaken them overall, instead of using it to breakthrough the frontline.
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Jul 7, 2023 20:16
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1stGear posted:Very glad I took FF's online course in Artillery Usage so that I know this is essentially the same as firing no shells a day. We have about 10,000 shells in Europe already, which is enough for 10 days.
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Jul 7, 2023 20:17
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if you have to retake it, it’s not your sovereign territory
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Jul 7, 2023 20:23
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hm
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Jul 7, 2023 20:25
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:We have about 10,000 shells in Europe already, which is enough for 10 days. Are those 10k cluster bomb all artillery shells or just 10k cluster bombs? I couldn't figure out if some of em are for tanks and planes. Also same for the 3 million stockpiled in the us I imagine the tank or bomb versions may not be compatible with ukrainian weapons
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Jul 7, 2023 20:25
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Maybe it's optimistic, but I wonder if in a roundabout way the desperate attempt to keep Ukraine armed with cluster bombs might encourage a ceasefire and negotiations. It definitely deepens the wedge between the US and Europe, which has to be ready at this point for the war to end on any terms. They know Ukraine is not winning, it's going to be a cold winter, and now big daddy Joe Biden is sending illegal munitions to their continent.
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Jul 7, 2023 20:27
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are cluster bombs useful for offensive operations ?
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Jul 7, 2023 20:29
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yeah but you gotta send in a few kids to soak up the duds first
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Jul 7, 2023 20:36
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you got the dud
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Jul 7, 2023 20:37
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euphronius posted:are cluster bombs useful for offensive operations ? I don't know that their usefulness is markedly different than regular bombs but there are a ton available immediately which i think is why they're the story of the week There's thousands of american cluster bombs in europe right now and millions in america
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Jul 7, 2023 20:42
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Ukrainian civilians when they see a cluster munition drop https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7a0f9dNJzCA
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Jul 7, 2023 21:03
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1stGear posted:Very glad I took FF's online course in Artillery Usage so that I know this is essentially the same as firing no shells a day. It's the opening hour of so of a battle in Normandy or North Africa.
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Jul 7, 2023 21:06
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Hatebag posted:I don't know that their usefulness is markedly different than regular bombs but there are a ton available immediately which i think is why they're the story of the week They're not effective against dug-in targets, no. If you look at the actual containers and submunitions, they do not have a cratering, blast or shock effect that degrades field fortifications.  They were designed to be used against columns of AFVs in Fulda, that's it, that's all. e: though there is a fuze/fuzing to convert the standard DPICM to just be an inefficient HE projectile, by detonating instead of ejecting the submunitions. ee: the more I think about it, the more that would be a way to at least expend the inventory of otherwise less useful shells. eee: but it would be incredibly wasteful. Basically, instead of a small "pop" to scatter the submunitions, you would just set them all at once. 
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Jul 7, 2023 21:08
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CNN posted:The White House announced Friday that the president had approved the transfer of cluster munitions to Ukraine, the latest instance where the US has provided Kyiv with weapons it initially resisted sending into the war. This is as close as we're going to get to an admission that the NATO stockpiles are gone. The full might of NATO technowar could not overcome the primitive orcish shamanism of "having factories that make shells instead of financial scams." 
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Jul 7, 2023 22:09
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Hedenius posted:https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1677021744748453900?s=46&t=mzWS2vgSInnU9jlt8C3n_Q looked for an article on him and found this: https://taskandpurpose.com/news/marine-veteran-killed-kramatorsk-ukraine/ quote:Tortorici served as a data systems technician in the Marine Corps Reserve from 2009 until 2016, leaving the Corps as a corporal, according to his service record, which was provided to Task & Purpose. His military awards include the Armed Forces Reserve Medal and Global War on Terrorism Service Medal. a computer toucher in the reserves with absolutely no combat or medical experience becoming a medic, hmmmmmm
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Jul 7, 2023 22:12
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It isn’t that stockpiles are empty probably, but it may be getting to the point it is getting a little awkward. South Korea also doesn’t want to ship too many shells…they may need them. But pretty blunt from the US to admit the Ukrainians are out of HE and they need to use cluster munitions which are probably not going to be effective against Russian entrenchments and are just either going to use for area denial or terror.
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Jul 7, 2023 22:16
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Alpha 1 posted:https://www.cnn.com/2023/07/07/politics/joe-biden-cluster-munitions-ukraine/ Disgusting that tankie biden is repeating ruzzian talking points Neurolimal has issued a correction as of 22:22 on Jul 7, 2023 |
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Jul 7, 2023 22:16
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Alpha 1 posted:The full might of NATO technowar could not overcome the primitive orcish shamanism of "having factories that make shells instead of financial scams." The amount of economic value produced in a single elvish spire is a hundredfold greater than all the smoke-belching factories of the orcs put together.
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Jul 7, 2023 22:17
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lol all the russia running out of ammo articles and ukraine was out in a month
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Jul 7, 2023 22:19
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mlmp08 posted:Yeah. Cluster munitions and cluster equipped artillery was a major part of the offensive operation in degrading and destroying radars, comms, and artillery units.
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Jul 7, 2023 22:30
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In the second age the elves built a massive army in order to defeat Sauron, all armed and armored with the finest weapons and armor that elf-kind could produce. By the time of the third age their economy was so hollowed out by
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Jul 7, 2023 22:37
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