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Panfilo
Aug 27, 2011
Probation
Can't post for 5 hours!
:allears:
https://twitter.com/SarahisCensored/status/1677096027579457536?t=06Lwczfv3BuMVVz2lS974g&s=19

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Inceltown
Aug 6, 2019


OK, and home / private schoolers should not be eligible for government jobs.

PhazonLink
Jul 17, 2010
so why does it matter they cant (re) gen the same pic? they saved the older output.

Inceltown
Aug 6, 2019

PhazonLink posted:

so why does it matter they cant (re) gen the same pic? they saved the older output.

One of the latest grifts is to use AI to write a story then use AI to populate it with pictures and dump it on Amazon to get "passive income you didn't need to work for". Having the images sort of look enough like each other to stop people asking for a refund is important in this.

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

Vincent Van Goatse posted:

Can someone unpack the AI art whining for me? Is it because they aren't able to recreate their favorite anime waifus now?
the popular AI art algorithms are updated constantly and rejiggered as more art is fed into them. As it does this, the same prompts will produce different results. Think of it like a video game patch. If minecraft patched its physics, or the stats on certain items, or whatever, doing the same series of actions might have different results.


PhazonLink posted:

so why does it matter they cant (re) gen the same pic? they saved the older output.
They want to regen the same general thing more to try and get a result they like slightly more, probably. Think of it like tweaking a finished piece.

In both cases this is the reality of working with an inconsistent, generative tool rather than an actual thinking intelligence, but it's sold to people as a magic art wizard so they can't grasp that it's not something you can trust.

Post poste
Mar 29, 2010

PhazonLink posted:

so why does it matter they cant (re) gen the same pic? they saved the older output.

Because it means they can't continually tweak the inputs, and they can't "reliably" generate images.

They want to act like they're doing it all manually, but they're just feeding a black box.

enigmahfc
Oct 10, 2003

EFF TEE DUB!!
EFF TEE DUB!!

but yet, people without kids should.

Baron von Eevl
Jan 24, 2005

WHITE NOISE
GENERATOR

🔊😴

Inceltown posted:

OK, and home / private schoolers should not be eligible for government jobs.

enigmahfc posted:

but yet, people without kids should.

These people actually think that there shouldn't be any government jobs because literally everything should be privatized, and that the only people that should have to pay for literally anything are the people who ate directly benefiting from the thing. All schools should be private schools and only the parents of kids attending those schools should pay for them.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Endorph posted:

the popular AI art algorithms are updated constantly and rejiggered as more art is fed into them. As it does this, the same prompts will produce different results. Think of it like a video game patch. If minecraft patched its physics, or the stats on certain items, or whatever, doing the same series of actions might have different results.

Or, if minecraft patched basically anything, and the world generator no longer produces the same result from a given seed value.

I assume AI is slightly different because its seed values are conceptually linked to the result in a way that humans can understand while traditional procgen systems are not, but ultimately you're giving it a seed and wanting it to generate the same result after changes to the generation algorithm, which is not how procedural generation works.

Splicer
Oct 16, 2006

from hell's heart I cast at thee
🧙🐀🧹🌙🪄🐸

DiabloStarCraft posted:

I did that once, but also with grave of the fireflies on top. Cannot recommend.
...does the phrase brotherman bill mean anything to you?

Coolness Averted
Feb 20, 2007

oh don't worry, I can't smell asparagus piss, it's in my DNA

GO HOGG WILD!
🐗🐗🐗🐗🐗

As someone who is not currently bombing foreign countries, or holding 1% of the US population in prison, I wholeheartedly support taking this all the way to its logical conclusion

Splicer
Oct 16, 2006

from hell's heart I cast at thee
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Coolness Averted posted:

As someone who is not currently bombing foreign countries, or holding 1% of the US population in prison, I wholeheartedly support taking this all the way to its logical conclusion
By their logic you only get a tax break if you yourself /are/ bombing countries and holding people prisoner but in a purely freelance capacity.

Coolness Averted
Feb 20, 2007

oh don't worry, I can't smell asparagus piss, it's in my DNA

GO HOGG WILD!
🐗🐗🐗🐗🐗

Splicer posted:

By their logic you only get a tax break if you yourself /are/ bombing countries and holding people prisoner but in a purely freelance capacity.

drat, can I at least get my share of the CIA budget that goes towards ruining leftist movements?

Coolness Averted has a new favorite as of 00:00 on Jul 8, 2023

Yngwie Mangosteen
Aug 23, 2007

https://twitter.com/doinkpatrol/status/1677445705621819394?s=46&t=LuWlVigXSHv3TXi-WVRPYA

credburn
Jun 22, 2016
Probation
Can't post for 3 hours!
I don't know if you guys missed this but

Twitter posted:

Rosie's Cocaine Hunt
@DarnelSugarfoo
Creator of the "Proper Country" Meme

What it must be like to shake this person's hand

PKMN Trainer Red
Oct 22, 2007



So THAT'S what it must be like to be one of the few celebrities to commentate over memes and earn the respect of the meme community.

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

📈📊🍪😋



Baron von Eevl posted:

These people actually think that there shouldn't be any government jobs because literally everything should be privatized, and that the only people that should have to pay for literally anything are the people who ate directly benefiting from the thing. All schools should be private schools and only the parents of kids attending those schools should pay for them.

They also think you shouldn’t have to pay for insurance you never use

Coolness Averted
Feb 20, 2007

oh don't worry, I can't smell asparagus piss, it's in my DNA

GO HOGG WILD!
🐗🐗🐗🐗🐗

on the topic of midjourney changing, here's an ideas guy's ideas guy

Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed shitposting.

What is this in reference to?

Midnight Voyager
Jul 2, 2008

Lipstick Apathy

Air Skwirl posted:

What is this in reference to?

The fact that this person is so dumb that the childhood "got your nose" trick would work on them still. Like yeah, everyone looked, "THAT MAN IS NOT REAL" is an insane thing to hear. Of course people turned to see what this commotion was about. They could have said anything bonkers.

Nuebot
Feb 18, 2013

The developer of Brigador is a secret chud, don't give him money

Vincent Van Goatse posted:

Can someone unpack the AI art whining for me? Is it because they aren't able to recreate their favorite anime waifus now?

Aside from what other people have said; another problem almost every AI art and story generation tool has had for ages now is that pedophiles flock to them to create child porn, then foster communities around them to make them as permissible to child porn as they can. The only way developers can really deal with it is by increasingly just making these tools just stop responding to basic rear end phrases or words like "child". There was a big poo poo storm on reddit a while back, for example, when the formerly popular AI Dungeon had to basically set its self up so trying to make the AI put child characters and sexual content together in any way would just shut it down, more or less, and people lost their minds over how that ~ruined the integrity~ and how the wokes were getting in the way of progress, etc. When, you know. It's just a bunch of gross pedos wanting to jerk off to their gross poo poo.

GreenMetalSun
Oct 12, 2012

Midnight Voyager posted:

The fact that this person is so dumb that the childhood "got your nose" trick would work on them still. Like yeah, everyone looked, "THAT MAN IS NOT REAL" is an insane thing to hear. Of course people turned to see what this commotion was about. They could have said anything bonkers.

Is there more context here? Like, is she pointing at a real person? Is she on drugs?

kazil
Jul 24, 2005

Derpmph trial star reporter!

It's from the new Hollywood blockbuster Fakes on a Plane

PKMN Trainer Red
Oct 22, 2007



GreenMetalSun posted:

Is there more context here? Like, is she pointing at a real person? Is she on drugs?

It's a woman having (I think) a schizophrenic breakdown on an airplane, shouting about an invisible person who is harassing her. It did the rounds on social media earlier this week as a 'white women be crazy' thing rather than a 'obviously unwell woman having a very public breakdown' thing.

oldpainless
Oct 30, 2009

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For those interested in the plane incident I urge them to read the first hand account of it from fellow passenger Carrot-Top, yes famous successful comedian Carrot Top was on the plane

Baron von Eevl
Jan 24, 2005

WHITE NOISE
GENERATOR

🔊😴

oldpainless posted:

famous successful comedian Carrot Top was on the plane

This is false. A comedian named Carrot Top was definitely on the plane, but the rest of the statement doesn't check out.

ben shapino
Nov 22, 2020

oldpainless posted:

For those interested in the plane incident I urge them to read the first hand account of it from fellow passenger Carrot-Top, yes famous successful comedian Carrot Top was on the plane

he's the man that's not real

Vib Rib
Jul 23, 2007

God damn this shit is
fuckin' re-dic-a-liss

🍖🍖😛🍖🍖

Nuebot posted:

There was a big poo poo storm on reddit a while back, for example, when the formerly popular AI Dungeon had to basically set its self up so trying to make the AI put child characters and sexual content together in any way would just shut it down, more or less, and people lost their minds over how that ~ruined the integrity~ and how the wokes were getting in the way of progress, etc. When, you know. It's just a bunch of gross pedos wanting to jerk off to their gross poo poo.
The actual problem was that trusting a text AI to detect when someone was writing about that turned out to be unreliable, to say the least. And how this in turn led to invasiveness where many people expected privacy.
If it detected a flag, it literally shut down and called a human moderator to read your story and verify you weren't doing anything bad. Referring to a child character's age, in any context, would often trip the flag. Sometimes the AI would decide to veer into sexual content unprompted and it get flagged on its own. Other times sexual content would get flagged with no mention of children, and now you have some stranger reading your weird private porn fic. Certain words like "melon" would trigger a flag. At one point, the word "horse" would trigger a flag.

It wasn't as simple as just slapping an anti-CSAM filter on and driving out a bunch of obvious pedophiles.

PKMN Trainer Red
Oct 22, 2007



ben shapino posted:

he's the man that's not real

Carrot Top as someone's imaginary tormenter, or sleep paralysis demon, is haunting.

oldpainless
Oct 30, 2009

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Baron von Eevl posted:

This is false. A comedian named Carrot Top was definitely on the plane, but the rest of the statement doesn't check out.

My apologies. I’ll rephrase. Las Vegas headliner, just like Britney Spears and Celine Dion, Carrot Top was a passenger on the plane.

mycatscrimes
Jan 2, 2020

Vib Rib posted:

The actual problem was that trusting a text AI to detect when someone was writing about that turned out to be unreliable, to say the least. And how this in turn led to invasiveness where many people expected privacy.
If it detected a flag, it literally shut down and called a human moderator to read your story and verify you weren't doing anything bad. Referring to a child character's age, in any context, would often trip the flag. Sometimes the AI would decide to veer into sexual content unprompted and it get flagged on its own. Other times sexual content would get flagged with no mention of children, and now you have some stranger reading your weird private porn fic. Certain words like "melon" would trigger a flag. At one point, the word "horse" would trigger a flag.

It wasn't as simple as just slapping an anti-CSAM filter on and driving out a bunch of obvious pedophiles.

Also it turned out the dataset it had been trained on included a whole bunch of fetish fic including rape and pedo stuff so it wasn't just a matter of the AI learning from users- it was also springing that poo poo on people who didn't want it because it was already in the data.

https://www.theregister.com/2021/10/08/ai_game_abuse/

disclaimer
Idk anything about this site but the info about the AI dungeon training data provided is accurate.

...!
Oct 5, 2003

I SHOULD KEEP MY DUMB MOUTH SHUT INSTEAD OF SPEWING HORSESHIT ABOUT THE ORBITAL MECHANICS OF THE JAMES WEBB SPACE TELESCOPE.

CAN SOMEONE PLEASE TELL ME WHAT A LAGRANGE POINT IS?

Baron von Eevl posted:

This is false. A comedian named Carrot Top was definitely on the plane, but the rest of the statement doesn't check out.

This is also false. Calling Carrot Top a comedian implies that he's funny

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

turns out feeding an ai the entire content of random fanfic sites and then also trusting that ai to censor that in a reasonable way is incredibly stupid on both ends

Hihohe
Oct 4, 2008

Fuck you and the sun you live under


Endorph posted:

turns out feeding an ai the entire content of random fanfic sites and then also trusting that ai to censor that in a reasonable way is incredibly stupid on both ends

mycatscrimes
Jan 2, 2020

Endorph posted:

turns out feeding an ai the entire content of random fanfic sites and then also trusting that ai to censor that in a reasonable way is incredibly stupid on both ends

Just scrape everything and feed it to the magic box. Disruption! Innovation!

Knormal
Nov 11, 2001

Coolness Averted posted:


on the topic of midjourney changing, here's an ideas guy's ideas guy
Why don't they just use AI to recreate the old version of AI?

Cool Kids Club Soda
Aug 20, 2010
😎❄️🌃🥤🧋🍹👌💯

Knormal posted:

Why don't they just use AI to recreate the old version of AI?

Do you want to get a time paradox where you have to go back in time to become your own grandfather? Because this is how we get a time paradox where you have to go back in time to become your own grandfather

...!
Oct 5, 2003

I SHOULD KEEP MY DUMB MOUTH SHUT INSTEAD OF SPEWING HORSESHIT ABOUT THE ORBITAL MECHANICS OF THE JAMES WEBB SPACE TELESCOPE.

CAN SOMEONE PLEASE TELL ME WHAT A LAGRANGE POINT IS?

Cool Kids Club Soda posted:

Do you want to get a time paradox where you have to go back in time to become your own grandfather? Because this is how we get a time paradox where you have to go back in time to become your own grandfather

I'm fine with it

Send_Ninjas
Oct 10, 2006

...! posted:

This is also false. Calling Carrot Top a comedian implies that he's funny

He can sleep soundly knowing he's not Jeff Dunham.

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Cool Kids Club Soda
Aug 20, 2010
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...! posted:

I'm fine with it

I guess I'm not ready for that, but my kids are gonna love it

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