NBA Summer League GDT

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DJ_Mindboggler: Nov 21, 2013

Kibner posted:

Eh, I don't think Wiseman will ever amount to anything more than a bench big. He doesn't turn his hips well, has below-average hands, and doesn't really have any elite skill other than running fast in a straight line.

He's pretty graceful/has decent handles for his size, but my god does he have hands of stone (and somewhat below-average BBIQ). A death sentence in Kerr's eyes.

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# ? Jun 2, 2024 03:16

Dejan Bimble: Mar 24, 2008; we're all black friends; Plaster Town Cop

I am broken hearted about missing The pistons game and having no way to replay it.

Can anyone give me their brief observations about ausar /sasser?

# ? Jul 9, 2023 02:49

dokmo: Aug 27, 2006; man

Ausar looked really good at both ends. It's a shame there aren't gonna be enough ballhandler opportunities for him to show off. Sasser I didn't notice much.

# ? Jul 9, 2023 02:56

Dejan Bimble: Mar 24, 2008; we're all black friends; Plaster Town Cop

dokmo posted:

Ausar looked really good at both ends. It's a shame there aren't gonna be enough ballhandler opportunities for him to show off. Sasser I didn't notice much.

That's great. My hope is that Killian hayes is getting flushed down the toilet back to france, so that Ivey can play 6th man to get some more lead reps, and Ausar can play 3 with Burks at 2, be the secondary ballhandler and benefit from Cade's gravity

# ? Jul 9, 2023 02:58

Kibner: Oct 21, 2008; Acguy Supremacy

DJ_Mindboggler posted:

He's pretty graceful/has decent handles for his size, but my god does he have hands of stone (and somewhat below-average BBIQ). A death sentence in Kerr's eyes.

This is unrelated specifically to Wiseman, but I have a few tiers of handles:

A) split double teams effortlessly
B) drive in traffic without getting stripped
C) beat single coverage
D) can sprint and dribble in transition without losing control
F) should never take more than a single power dribble

I don't think a big's "relative" handles are actually noteworthy unless the are at least in tier C. If they can beat single coverage, cool, that's useful a lot of the time. Especially if they have other players on the team that give enough space to make sure they don't have to worry about dribbling into traffic.

However, if they ever become good enough at actually beating single coverage with their dribble, teams will be sending help and I have seen that lead to so many strips on bigs who are generally considered to have "good handles, for their size". At that point, their handles start to have extremely niche usage until they can keep their dribble in traffic.

# ? Jul 9, 2023 02:59

DJ_Mindboggler: Nov 21, 2013

That's a good classification system, he was definitely a solid "D" in every game I watched him play (so, all of his Dubs games)

# ? Jul 9, 2023 05:12

dokmo: Aug 27, 2006; man

Dallas OKC

Chet has a goofy lanky white guy look but plays with caged raccoon at the vet energy. He is has so much fun to watch.

Cason looked pretty good.

Lively is as long as advertised, but pretty raw. I don't know about this guy.

# ? Jul 9, 2023 14:11

Panzeh: Nov 27, 2006; "..The high ground"

i think Kerr should have developed Wiseman as a stretch 5 instead of a rim runner.

# ? Jul 9, 2023 14:20

dokmo: Aug 27, 2006; man

Was IND Jarace Walker looks like he could guard anybody in the league right now.

Johnny Davis/Mathurin matchup is very good.

# ? Jul 9, 2023 14:44

dokmo: Aug 27, 2006; man

I know he's only played 1 game against this level of competition, but Jarace Walker has the best hands I've ever seen.

# ? Jul 9, 2023 14:50

dokmo: Aug 27, 2006; man

whyteryce please find a way to steal a 2023 summer league ball crew t shirt for me, thanks.

# ? Jul 9, 2023 14:53

Dejan Bimble: Mar 24, 2008; we're all black friends; Plaster Town Cop

dokmo posted:

I know he's only played 1 game against this level of competition, but Jarace Walker has the best hands I've ever seen.

He's really impressive

# ? Jul 9, 2023 19:39

Dejan Bimble: Mar 24, 2008; we're all black friends; Plaster Town Cop

Also of the clips I cound find of det/orl, Duren took an off the dribble three and made it. What a silly time it is

# ? Jul 9, 2023 19:40

WhyteRyce: Dec 30, 2001

Colin Castleton hype train continues

# ? Jul 9, 2023 21:10

WhyteRyce: Dec 30, 2001

Brandon Miller just airballed a floater??

# ? Jul 9, 2023 21:18

WhyteRyce: Dec 30, 2001

WhyteRyce posted:

Colin Castleton hype train continues

# ? Jul 9, 2023 21:29

Rick: Feb 23, 2004; When I was 17, my father was so stupid, I didn't want to be seen with him in public. When I was 24, I was amazed at how much the old man had learned in just 7 years.

Oops had the wrong channel on.

# ? Jul 9, 2023 21:40

Rick: Feb 23, 2004; When I was 17, my father was so stupid, I didn't want to be seen with him in public. When I was 24, I was amazed at how much the old man had learned in just 7 years.

WhyteRyce posted:

Colin Castleton hype train continues

# ? Jul 9, 2023 22:05

Rick: Feb 23, 2004; When I was 17, my father was so stupid, I didn't want to be seen with him in public. When I was 24, I was amazed at how much the old man had learned in just 7 years.

What does Eric Musselman have to do with this game right now? Get this loser off my TV.

# ? Jul 9, 2023 22:06

dokmo: Aug 27, 2006; man

Fudge

# ? Jul 9, 2023 22:18

dokmo: Aug 27, 2006; man

Nobody should be allowed to use zone defense in summer league.

Also full court press.

# ? Jul 9, 2023 22:22

Rick: Feb 23, 2004; When I was 17, my father was so stupid, I didn't want to be seen with him in public. When I was 24, I was amazed at how much the old man had learned in just 7 years.

Hornets play like a tanking team in the summer league.

# ? Jul 9, 2023 22:39

WhyteRyce: Dec 30, 2001

Every single one of the Hornets guards need to be fired into the sun

# ? Jul 9, 2023 22:42

Rick: Feb 23, 2004; When I was 17, my father was so stupid, I didn't want to be seen with him in public. When I was 24, I was amazed at how much the old man had learned in just 7 years.

I really like how relaxed JHS has been, in a good way. No one ever rushes him. Some of the passes are dumb but when he just does bread and butter stuff it�s really nice and he really creates a lot of legit contact on his drives.

# ? Jul 9, 2023 22:45

Rick: Feb 23, 2004; When I was 17, my father was so stupid, I didn't want to be seen with him in public. When I was 24, I was amazed at how much the old man had learned in just 7 years.

WhyteRyce posted:

Every single one of the Hornets guards need to be fired into the sun

# ? Jul 9, 2023 22:45

Kibner: Oct 21, 2008; Acguy Supremacy

WhyteRyce posted:

Every single one of the Hornets guards need to be fired into the sun

Sadly, they are both still on rookie 1st round contracts.

# ? Jul 9, 2023 22:51

Rick: Feb 23, 2004; When I was 17, my father was so stupid, I didn't want to be seen with him in public. When I was 24, I was amazed at how much the old man had learned in just 7 years.

Jabari Smith looks so much better this summer league.

dokmo posted:

Fudge

I enjoy his basketball.

# ? Jul 9, 2023 23:08

WhyteRyce: Dec 30, 2001

Ausar can�t shoot

# ? Jul 9, 2023 23:26

surf rock: Aug 12, 2007; We need more women in STEM, and by that, I mean skateboarding, television, esports, and magic.

I know the Pistons are gonna be a bottom-five team again this season, but jesus even the summer league version is depressing to watch. I hope Cade can at least make it through a season this year.

# ? Jul 9, 2023 23:29

Kibner: Oct 21, 2008; Acguy Supremacy

Is there a single thing Wiseman does better than Duren?

# ? Jul 9, 2023 23:30

Rick: Feb 23, 2004; When I was 17, my father was so stupid, I didn't want to be seen with him in public. When I was 24, I was amazed at how much the old man had learned in just 7 years.

I think Jay Huff is a corner three away from being a valued role player on an NBA team.

# ? Jul 9, 2023 23:32

Rick: Feb 23, 2004; When I was 17, my father was so stupid, I didn't want to be seen with him in public. When I was 24, I was amazed at how much the old man had learned in just 7 years.

Jabari

# ? Jul 9, 2023 23:43

G-Hawk: Dec 15, 2003

Rick posted:

Jabari

Was coming here to post, he looks a step above everyone else for the 2nd game in a row here.

# ? Jul 9, 2023 23:47

Chronicles: Oct 24, 2013

Pistons playing almost their whole starting lineup and still struggling

# ? Jul 9, 2023 23:49

Rick: Feb 23, 2004; When I was 17, my father was so stupid, I didn't want to be seen with him in public. When I was 24, I was amazed at how much the old man had learned in just 7 years.

Great read by Ausar.

# ? Jul 10, 2023 00:04

surf rock: Aug 12, 2007; We need more women in STEM, and by that, I mean skateboarding, television, esports, and magic.

Chronicles posted:

Pistons playing almost their whole starting lineup and still struggling

For what it's worth, I'm sure Detroit's starting lineup will include Cade/Stewart/Bogdanović. The only starters they have playing are Ivey and Duren.

# ? Jul 10, 2023 00:05

WhyteRyce: Dec 30, 2001

lol wiseman getting clowned

# ? Jul 10, 2023 00:22

dokmo: Aug 27, 2006; man

Wiseman has not covered himself in glory today

# ? Jul 10, 2023 00:46

Chronicles: Oct 24, 2013

surf rock posted:

For what it's worth, I'm sure Detroit's starting lineup will include Cade/Stewart/Bogdanović. The only starters they have playing are Ivey and Duren.

Fair though I expect Thompson to get a lot of time. They all played well but Smith and Eason killed it.

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Mean Baby: May 28, 2005

How did Miller do?

# ? Jul 10, 2023 00:53

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