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Uncle Boogeyman posted:That’s not even the worst pun in that movie (“I thought Christmas only comes once a year”) I remember seeing it in the cinema and asking my parents what that line meant.
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Basebf555 posted:Never thought about it in those terms but I'd probably agree. There's a coldness to his Bond, which I think you need, that I think starts to show itself in Tomorrow Never Dies that wasn't really there in Goldeneye. Yeah, I couldn't stand Goldeneye for a while because he was just Remington Steele with a touch of Roger Moore, which was just following Timothy Dalton, which was just excellent. Took Tomorrow Never Dies for me to retroactively accept him.
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Just watched Moonraker on ITV and that ‘discoed up’ end credits version of the theme is banging.
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Jul 8, 2023 18:55
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Gervasius posted:TWINE also has the honor of worst Bond pun ever. The "I thought Christmas only comes once a year" line was pretty groanworthy, but I give it a pass because it's also hilarious.
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Jul 8, 2023 19:11
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However groanworthy it is to name a Bond girl something just so a sexual joke can be made about it is still better than the Bond girls who are given outright sexual names to begin with.
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monkeytennis posted:Just watched Moonraker on ITV and that ‘discoed up’ end credits version of the theme is banging. I thought I was the only one! In the early 00s I ripped the DVD on my Mac and extracted the audio track from that section, managed to mostly remove Roger Moore's "Why Not?", and converted to MP3.
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Jul 9, 2023 00:51
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Bond also gets in a pretty decent line in TWINE with this:quote:James Bond: Because he actually knows one million jokes.
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Gervasius posted:TWINE also has the honor of worst Bond pun ever. I gave it a pass cuz at that time we'd already been thrown the curve of Elektra not being the de facto "Bond girl" of the movie and instead being the villain behind everything, so in my mind the (novel, at the time) twist led to Bond causing the death of another woman but this time it was by his own hands. plus as everyone else said the Christmas pun is so bad it retroactively wiped out like five movies' worth of one liners
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Hell, gently caress it why not rank the movies. 1. Casino Royale 2. Goldeneye 3. The Living Daylights 4. Skyfall 5. License To Kill 6. OHMSS Honorable mention to Tomorrow Never Dies. I’ve watch all of them recently and I just have an aversion to Moore and Connery, outside of maybe Goldfinger.
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Jul 29, 2023 12:59
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I'm sure this is super obvious to everyone, but I just realized all the actors have done a different number of films (counting Eon only, not NSNA): Moore: 7, Connery: 6, Craig: 5, Brosnan: 4, Dalton: 2, Lazenby: 1. So, whoever they get next should sign a 3 picture deal.
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Space Jam posted:Hell, gently caress it why not rank the movies. I'm curious with your list because the three most alike are probably From Russia With Love, License to Kill, and Living Daylights.
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15.Tomorrow Never Dies It becomes more relevant every day doesn't it. 14. Quantum of Solace The loosest the franchise ever got on account of circumstances. Kind like it like that. It's like Cruises character from Collateral directed a film. 13. Live and Let Die Absurd in a great way. 12.TWINE Criminally underrated. The final fight and some of the gadgetry was too goofy but Elektra King as the villain was perfect. I even love how she was going after M not Bond. The final punchline is so loving dumb it becomes hilarious. 11. Dr. No Practical spying, beautiful location, a cool base. The film feels half way to a perfect bond Film and it was the first released. And as a bonus it doesn't step on any of the landmines that the rest of the franchise does. 10. Goldfinger It's good, but I don't get the legendary status. Oddjob is my boy though. I'd let him hench for me anytime. 9.You Only Live Twice Turning Connery Japanese is so absurd it gets a hearty laugh. Tiger Tanakas dubber owns super hard. We get the classic volcano base, love that helicopter shot as the men are chasing him on the roof of the building. Maybe the best opening scene in bond? 8.For Your Eyes Only God I wish Moore had more films like this and less goofy poo poo. Him kicking that car off the cliff was ice cold. 7.Casino Royale Mads is one of the best villains wasted in a movie that's half Bourne half bad poker. Eva Green saves the film, and then dooms it by dragging it out for five endings. Worse in retrospect after everything it set up ended up being so lame. 6.Goldeneye Sean Beans character remains the best Bond but Bad in the franchise. Especially over jokerlites like Silva. 5.License to Kill Man deserved another film 4.Thunderball I'm like the only person who loves this movie. I love largo, Fiona Volpe is the first time the seductress actively worked VS bond. Domino is one of the hottest bond girls. The scene with Bond fleeing Mardis Gras is suitably tense and présages some of the more Interesting scenes we get in OHMSS 3.Living Daylights Would be above Russia of the last act was slightly shorter. Skiing on the cello case remains one of the best gags on the series despite being in one of the most grounded films. 2.From Russia with Love The perfect classic bond. Beautiful women, semi realistic spying, exotic locales. 1.OHMSS Best action in the assault on the compound. Blofeld and Tracy are absolutely perfect, incredibly dynamic all the way through. Much more grounded than the films had gotten
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I'm still genuinely impressed with how modern a lot of OHMSS feels between the editing, the humor, the bleak ending with meaningful continuity, the characters, and especially the action. That assault on the compound feels like it's from a 90s John Woo movie done in 1969. While bond always had the one liners, this scene in particular feels like it's the progenitor for Schwarzenegger's one liners in response to absurdly violent things happening to people. The first time I saw this I had to pause the movie because I was laughing too hard, I really didn't expect a movie this old to do something that'd be more at home in a tongue-in-cheek 80s hyper violence flick like Commando or Robocop. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AiQK8dLXy5E Peter Hunt was a visionary for what action movies would be 25 years later and it's nice to see OHMSS get the respect it deserves these days instead of being regarded off-hand as that "bad one the one-and-done guy did"
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUpnRD-Sd9Q I wouldn't have posted this save for how he points out in the Bond 50 set we see Bond Girls with their respective films and for TWINE it shows Elektra, not Christmas. Poor Denise Richards, indeed. She'll always have Tammy and the T-Rex. And was she in Starship Tropers? Again, playing the main female love interest who all the fans dislike compared to the other female love interest? Oh well, Elektra is great, Renard is great, I like this movie.
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So are they just keeping Judi Dench out of the thumbnail to not give it away, or does this random youtube person get it wrong?
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Space Jam posted:Lol I forgot about that. Then M shows up horrified. I had that game. It was OK, but Goldeneye and Perfect Dark were far better games. Catching up a bit on the conversation over the past few pages: Tomorrow Never Dies is underrated. It's not as good as Goldeneye but it's better than both TWINE and Die Another Day. Elliot Carver is what Elon Musk wants to be but is too much of a dumb dickhead to pull off. I wouldn't say that Connery has a perfect record for Bond themes, because Thunderball exists. It's Tom Jones belting out weird sycophantic lyrics about how tough and mighty Bond is; such a terrible song. Dalton is a great Bond and extremely underrated by a lot of fans. I'm always up for a good revenge story and License To Kill delivers. I've always liked the opening where the wedding march segues perfectly into the theme song. F_Shit_Fitzgerald fucked around with this message at 22:15 on Aug 4, 2023 |
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NikkolasKing posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUpnRD-Sd9Q The big Denise Richards movies are Starship Troopers, The World Is Not Enough, and Wild Things. One of these movies is even good!
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Aug 4, 2023 22:24
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My hot James Bond take is that Pierce Brosnan is not a very good actor. He coasts pretty far on his looks and natural presence but he just can't act.
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Aug 4, 2023 22:34
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He was great in Mrs. Doubtfire.
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Human Tornada posted:My hot James Bond take is that Pierce Brosnan is not a very good actor. He coasts pretty far on his looks and natural presence but he just can't act. Perfect example of this is Black Adam. He shows up not giving a poo poo playing a character who also does not give a poo poo and he still manages to steal the whole show.
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Aug 4, 2023 22:37
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You can watch the remake of the Thomas Crown Affair and tell he could pull off Bond fine. He just had poorly written and directed films compared to his predecessors.
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F_Shit_Fitzgerald posted:I wouldn't say that Connery has a perfect record for Bond themes, because Thunderball exists. It's Tom Jones belting out weird sycophantic lyrics about how tough and mighty Bond is; such a terrible song. Also, Dr. No's credits aren't really a "theme song". Like, they have the standard "Bond theme" that became the one we all knew, but it also had some random calypso song, and then a calypso version of three blind mice? It was really weird. From Russia With Love didn't even have an opening song with words, I think. Connery didn't get a banger of an opening theme song until Goldfinger.
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NikkolasKing posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUpnRD-Sd9Q You could do a “who is the real villain” debate on each Bone movie. It’d be the villain in the film, vs the Queen of England and the UK Parliament.
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Human Tornada posted:My hot James Bond take is that Pierce Brosnan is not a very good actor. He coasts pretty far on his looks and natural presence but he just can't act. Came up before that Brosnan is considered to have gotten better at playing Bond the worse the movies got. I think he's just in one of those niches where he's cast in roles based on his looks, accent and screen presence but don't actually give him anything to work with.
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pretty soft girl posted:I'm still genuinely impressed with how modern a lot of OHMSS feels between the editing, the humor, the bleak ending with meaningful continuity, the characters, and especially the action. That assault on the compound feels like it's from a 90s John Woo movie done in 1969. One problem with ON HER MAJESTY'S SECRET SERVICE is that Diana Rigg can't hide how much she hates George Lazenby. They have zero chemistry together, which weakens the ending.
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thrawn527 posted:Also, Dr. No's credits aren't really a "theme song". Like, they have the standard "Bond theme" that became the one we all knew, but it also had some random calypso song, and then a calypso version of three blind mice? It was really weird. From Russia With Love didn't even have an opening song with words, I think. Connery didn't get a banger of an opening theme song until Goldfinger. Thunderball lyrics could also be about Largo. Maybe it's too show how much alike he and Bond are.
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Human Tornada posted:My hot James Bond take is that Pierce Brosnan is not a very good actor. He coasts pretty far on his looks and natural presence but he just can't act. You don't need to be a good actor to play James Bond. Like good looks and natural presence are 90% of the character. Plus, he got atrocious scripts
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Mantis42 posted:You don't need to be a good actor to play James Bond. Like good looks and natural presence are 90% of the character. Plus, he got atrocious scripts I dunno if it's a nostalgia imprinting thing but Brosnan almost feels like he'd play a parody of Bond better than the real thing.
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Mantis42 posted:You don't need to be a good actor to play James Bond. Like good looks and natural presence are 90% of the character. Plus, he got atrocious scripts I don't think so. If you watch Connery's films again, he does a good job of conveying little moments of doubt or amusement or surprise and it seems natural. Timothy Dalton was also a good actor in a very different way. Being able to act improves the movies so much that relying on someone as obvious as Moore or as unsubtle as Lazenby does a lot of harm.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:I dunno if it's a nostalgia imprinting thing but Brosnan almost feels like he'd play a parody of Bond better than the real thing. I always thought Brosnan would be perfect as the Saint (keeping closer to Charteris' original character.
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teagone posted:He was great in Mrs. Doubtfire. And Mars Attacks!
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Mantis42 posted:You don't need to be a good actor to play James Bond. Like good looks and natural presence are 90% of the character. Plus, he got atrocious scripts I disagree, having good acting always helps. Go watch the diner scene from L.A. Takedown, the TV Movie version of Heat. Same script, same director, but without DeNiro and Pacino the scene is a total wet noodle. Granted, Brosnan is way better that those two, he's fine a lot of the time but he often tries to do too much and it's hard for me to ignore the *ACTING*. This scene of him getting tortured is a perfect example. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pov2ZtgO_r4
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Name Change posted:The big Denise Richards movies are Starship Troopers, The World Is Not Enough, and Wild Things. One of these movies is even good! I like two of those movies, although "good" might be stretching things in terms of SST. I dunno what to call it. I just feel kinda bad for her cuz she's so totally overshadowed by Sophie Marceau. Then again, now I think on it, is Natalya a big part of why people like Goldeneye? I think more people probably remember Xenia, too.
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drhermes posted:Thunderball lyrics could also be about Largo. Maybe it's too show how much alike he and Bond are. Most of the lyrics could go either way but I've always thought it was about Largo because of the "he looks at this world and wants it all" which doesn't sound very Bond-ish, but then again his family motto is The World is Not Enough, sooooo....
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I didn't say that good acting couldn't elevate the role or that Connery wasn't a better actor, I said it's not a necessity. Roger Moore couldn't act at all but he filled the role.
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NikkolasKing posted:I like two of those movies, although "good" might be stretching things in terms of SST. I dunno what to call it. I just feel kinda bad for her cuz she's so totally overshadowed by Sophie Marceau. which movie did you think he was implying to be good (it was starship troopers)
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Ghost Leviathan posted:I dunno if it's a nostalgia imprinting thing but Brosnan almost feels like he'd play a parody of Bond better than the real thing. Time for a late Remington Steele movie
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Jones’ paradox: I find Tom Jones basically unlistenable in 99% of contexts, and yet Thunderball is easily a top 5 Bond theme
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NikkolasKing posted:I like two of those movies, although "good" might be stretching things in terms of SST. I dunno what to call it. I just feel kinda bad for her cuz she's so totally overshadowed by Sophie Marceau. Good would be stretching Starship Troopers because it's fantastic.
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Darko posted:Good would be stretching Starship Troopers because it's fantastic. 
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