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Klyith posted:The reddit website, if you aren't using old.reddit.com, shows you about 10 comments before you have to press buttons to load more or load into and out of conversation threads. Meanwhile .... Yeah, I got a new phone the day after RIF disappeared from the Play Store and couldn't use it anymore. I downloaded the official Reddit app and it was such rear end that I haven't opened it since. Good work on that there greed, Reddit. Seems to be working out great.
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Internet Old One posted:There are forums for TMNT, Oldsmobile Auroras, 2stroke engines, and HVAC repair. What are these interests that everyone keeps talking about? Is this some sort of elbow fetish thing? There are like 1 million subscribers to the fantasy premier league subreddit. And again, for regional stuff, the city subreddit for most major cities is massive compared to any other way of communicating anything outside of Facebook or something. The ‘niche in my region’ subreddit is going to be 1000x bigger than any regional content in a general niche forum covering the whole world. Reddit subs for some things are/were just 1000x more active than any similar forum.
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some of the biggest internet services are such ubiquitous communication tools. some lovely company won the race XX years ago and becomes the main place for that type of communication, but in their quest to make money from it they ruin it. maybe this sort of poo poo isn't profitable and doesn't need to be. it serves a great utility to people, so it should probably just be a utility. it was especially silly when we had that joke president using twitter as their main form of communication with the public. just make techbro tax, then fund a goddamn public municipal twitter/youtube/ig/reddit. worst case scenario use .00001 of the defense budget to fund them for a thousand years.
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What is the purpose of r/worldbuilding exactly?
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People post about fictional worlds they are building and people help them flesh those worlds out, primarily.
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Heath posted:What is the purpose of r/worldbuilding exactly? I'm guessing from the name it's for getting to what really matters in sci-fi/fantasy without having to worry about boring bullshit like plot.
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Heath posted:What is the purpose of r/worldbuilding exactly? https://vimeo.com/83566286
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Khanstant posted:some of the biggest internet services are such ubiquitous communication tools. some lovely company won the race XX years ago and becomes the main place for that type of communication, but in their quest to make money from it they ruin it. maybe this sort of poo poo isn't profitable and doesn't need to be. it serves a great utility to people, so it should probably just be a utility. it was especially silly when we had that joke president using twitter as their main form of communication with the public. just make techbro tax, then fund a goddamn public municipal twitter/youtube/ig/reddit. worst case scenario use .00001 of the defense budget to fund them for a thousand years. posting should be a public utility, but i don’t think it would be a good idea for the government to directly run it, because courts would likely hold them to 1st amendment rules and make moderation a major problem the first time vincent van goatse reports a 16 bit butt head post for saying “aids” and gets him probed, the aclu would take the mods to task
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withoutclass posted:This is the worst popup on the entire internet. Every fuckin mobile website I go to covers up half the screen with it. it's the best when it shows up on porn sites, I wonder how many people actually login
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Bad Purchase posted:posting should be a public utility, but i don’t think it would be a good idea for the government to directly run it, because courts would likely hold them to 1st amendment rules and make moderation a major problem yeah, you're right. the main idea i want is for it to just get away from a situation where a maniac billionaire owns it, or a cabal of billionaire maniacs collectively control it, or a government controls it. Just leave it for the people who are using it. Companies and governments can still profit it from it by spying on us and what we say and think. and drat imagine how good these sites could be if the point was just to make them better to use, not worse with algorithms to steer attention and increase engagement with psychological tricks
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Khanstant posted:yeah, you're right. the main idea i want is for it to just get away from a situation where a maniac billionaire owns it, or a cabal of billionaire maniacs collectively control it, or a government controls it. Just leave it for the people who are using it. Companies and governments can still profit it from it by spying on us and what we say and think. and drat imagine how good these sites could be if the point was just to make them better to use, not worse with algorithms to steer attention and increase engagement with psychological tricks You might have just invented mastodon / Lemmy.
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wooger posted:There are like 1 million subscribers to the fantasy premier league subreddit. 1. Who cares if there are a million users those places always suck. 3k - 20k active users is a ton. The Well was the cultural nexus of the internet with active discussions on nearly any topic and it peaked at 10k users. The reason it seems like you need so many more to get worthwhile contribution is because the quality of your average internet user has gone wayyyy down. Edit: And of course SA also held that title and it’s had 200some thousand users ever. Mildly popular youtube channel numbers. 2. When forums were at their peak in the early 2010s there was a sonic boom outside and I was able to google search and find an entire forum thread about it within minutes. SkyeAuroline posted:The largest sub that I have yet to find a substitute for is /r/worldbuilding. Yes, there's a lot of mediocre writing on there, but there's also a lot that's inspirational for my own project, and I like seeing what others are working on. The decent alternatives are: So it seems like not that long ago I stumbled on some huge forum for this when I didn’t even realize it was a hobby into itself. I just can’t find it now so I guess you’re right.  If Reddit dies all these needs can be met by forums if I ever see anything that reminds me of Reddit, Twitter or Facebook ever again I know I’ve learned my lesson and won’t be participating from now on. It’s fine for awhile but the quality inevitably goes way down and it transforms into a tool to manipulate people. Internet Old One fucked around with this message at 19:28 on Jul 9, 2023 |
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Internet Old One posted:The Well was the cultural nexus of the internet with active discussions on nearly any topic and it peaked at 10k users. The reason it seems like you need so many more to get worthwhile contribution is because the quality of your average internet user has gone wayyyy down. doesn't/didn't it also have a really high paywall? eternal september and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race, sure, but when pining for the old internet it's a good idea to keep in mind that all the barriers to access were financial ones
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Heath posted:What is the purpose of r/worldbuilding exactly? It's a place where teenage fanfiction authors pat each other on the back about how cool their fantasy worlds full of demons are
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deep dish peat moss posted:It's a place where teenage fanfiction authors pat each other on the back about how cool their fantasy worlds full of demons are
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Khanstant posted:some of the biggest internet services are such ubiquitous communication tools. some lovely company won the race XX years ago and becomes the main place for that type of communication, but in their quest to make money from it they ruin it. maybe this sort of poo poo isn't profitable and doesn't need to be. it serves a great utility to people, so it should probably just be a utility. If usenet was easier to use, I could see it being more popular. No one can own it since it's an internet protocol and there are decades of posts on there. All in threaded, searchable groups. These days I don't know if anyone actually has discussions as it's just piracy and porn.
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deep dish peat moss posted:It's a place where teenage fanfiction authors pat each other on the back about how cool their fantasy worlds full of demons are I mean this is kind of what I assumed it was based on the name alone but people are talking like there is valuable insight buried in there somewhere so I'm curious what that is
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Bonzo posted:If usenet was easier to use, I could see it being more popular. No one can own it since it's an internet protocol and there are decades of posts on there. All in threaded, searchable groups. These days I don't know if anyone actually has discussions as it's just piracy and porn. Grassy Knowles posted:
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Bonzo posted:If usenet was easier to use, I could see it being more popular. No one can own it since it's an internet protocol and there are decades of posts on there. All in threaded, searchable groups. These days I don't know if anyone actually has discussions as it's just piracy and porn. Buddy you can download piracy and porn and you don't even have to talk with people online. What's there to improve on?
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In 1996 I accidentally posted an image in a text only group that was for fans of The X-Files. Someone actually reported me to my ISP. Imagine if someone emailed abuse@verizon.com and reported you for shitposting on a forum. Then again, downloading an image on a 28k or 14.4 modem back then would have cost you some hours. The ISP I was using a the time was run by a friend of mine so he just laughed and then made fun of me for being an X-files fan
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The Voice of Labor posted:doesn't/didn't it also have a really high paywall? Financial plus a lot of users worked for prestigious companies or universities and got access through them. The Well is $10/mo and I think it was $25 when they were also a legitimate ISP. The quality even today with like 1000 users is outstanding. Additionally it has a high technical barrier to use as did most things internet from the era. I’ll bet you most Redditors could never get the hang of picospan. Bonzo posted:If usenet was easier to use, I could see it being more popular. No one can own it since it's an internet protocol and there are decades of posts on there. All in threaded, searchable groups. These days I don't know if anyone actually has discussions as it's just piracy and porn. Reddit’s problems prompted me to sign up for usenet just to see what’s up. It’s not getting spammed a ton and there is a small amount of legitimate posting but I wouldn’t go there to actually talk to anyone. It was very fun going back in time to read what was going on in the 80s and early 90s. It was also hilarious to see Onideus Mad Hatter making thousands of extremely bad posts to alt.2600 just imagine being like 80 years old making GBS threads yourself in a home knowing that historians will be cringe-loling at you for another 100 years into the future. Edit: I recently discovered that the vast majority of forum software still quietly supports RSS feeds and if you plug them into thunderbird it feels a lot like usenet if that’s something you’re missing in your life. I used another feed reader but the end result is very much like a better version of what I was getting from Reddit. Internet Old One fucked around with this message at 21:10 on Jul 9, 2023 |
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Kevin Bacon posted:please help how do i post Carefully.
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Bonzo posted:In 1996 I accidentally posted an image in a text only group that was for fans of The X-Files. Someone actually reported me to my ISP. Imagine if someone emailed abuse@verizon.com and reported you for shitposting on a forum. Then again, downloading an image on a 28k or 14.4 modem back then would have cost you some hours. lol
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Internet Old One posted:Edit: I recently discovered that the vast majority of forum software still quietly supports RSS feeds and if you plug them into thunderbird it feels a lot like usenet if that’s something you’re missing in your life. I used another feed reader but the end result is very much like a better version of what I was getting from Reddit. how would you set this up with something awful? zetamind2000 fucked around with this message at 23:23 on Jul 9, 2023 |
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zetamind2000 posted:how would you set this up with something awful? I didn’t bother trying SA because I’m not interested in having SA in a feed like that so I don’t know for sure that it works here. But what I did do was google the type of forum software and rss feeds and it usually told me what to do. IIRC it should be a param like &type=rss2 but that doesn’t work for me so maybe I’m doing it wrong or it’s turned off. I feel like SA is old enough where they would have little icons advertising the rss feed feature whereas now many new forums support it but never show you an indication that it’s possible or how.
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Internet Old One posted:I didn’t bother trying SA because I’m not interested in having SA in a feed like that so I don’t know for sure that it works here. But what I did do was google the type of forum software and rss feeds and it usually told me what to do. IIRC it should be a param like &type=rss2 but that doesn’t work for me so maybe I’m doing it wrong or it’s turned off. I've looked at it with firefox's page inspector and the pages on the forums don't seem to have rss/atom functionality for other sites though there's a pretty good firefox add-on for rss feeds https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/sage-like/ zetamind2000 fucked around with this message at 23:29 on Jul 9, 2023 |
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Internet Old One posted:I feel like SA is old enough where they would have little icons advertising the rss feed feature whereas now many new forums support it but never show you an indication that it’s possible or how. SA is old enough that its software predates RSS. But now I'm tempted to create an NNTP interface to the forums as a side project.
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biznatchio posted:But now I'm tempted to create an NNTP interface to the forums as a side project. you should do it
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I have some RSS subscriptions to the forums from ages ago. They still seem to work. Here's the url for the GBS feed: http://cygnustm.net/sarss/gbs.rss I think most subforums work, at least whatever ones have been around for a decade or so.
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TIL if you try to open an RSS feed on an iPhone, it shows you a custom message offering to search the App Store for an RSS reader.
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Bonzo posted:In 1996 I accidentally posted an image in a text only group that was for fans of The X-Files. Someone actually reported me to my ISP. Imagine if someone emailed abuse@verizon.com and reported you for shitposting on a forum. Then again, downloading an image on a 28k or 14.4 modem back then would have cost you some hours. Back in the AOL days it was super easy to report people for Terms of Service violations and AOL took it super seriously. Many people made it their MO to bait people into saying things that could be reported, and after too many TOS violations I think your account would be shut down. Ironically if you wanted to cancel AOL that was the easiest way. If you wanted to just stop subscribing it'd take hours fighting their retention team, but just make a bunch of barely offensive message board posts and you'd be gone for good very quickly!
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Big Bowie Bonanza posted:Yeah, car forums are an actual nightmare especially if you’re a primarily mobile user like I am. UX aside the people there loving suck and a lot of the Reddit communities are pretty good about weeding out the assholes This post was made using TAPATALK why don't you download it? Why? Also log on to Google and download another app, here's a big Cookie screen, also have downloaded TAPATALK? Fucks sake let us read in peace. But yeah, some forums are toxic as gently caress (then again so was and even more so is now, Reddit) Hell SA was rough for quite a few years but you just gotta pick your spots/lurk moar and avoid the ones with the most rabid arseholes.
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Internet Old One posted:Financial plus a lot of users worked for prestigious companies or universities and got access through them. The Well is $10/mo and I think it was $25 when they were also a legitimate ISP. The quality even today with like 1000 users is outstanding. Additionally it has a high technical barrier to use as did most things internet from the era. I’ll bet you most Redditors could never get the hang of picospan. I was pretty into sociological takes on the Internet about 20 years ago and I remember a lot of the "The Internet will bring about the Utopia" guys were Well users and it's like nah dudes, that's not the Internet I know.
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Heath posted:I mean this is kind of what I assumed it was based on the name alone but people are talking like there is valuable insight buried in there somewhere so I'm curious what that is None of this answers your question because the answer is: nothing. There's nothing insightful. At one point I tried to find value in it, and other writing subreddits, but I don't think there's any actual value to be found in any of them other beyond "a place that encourages people to write". The most immediate thing that struck me as terrible about it is that they claim to be for creatives of all types, like Artists, game developers, etc. But they literally do not allow any submission that is not accompanied by a fiction piece. I tried posting some art of some sci-fi landscapes I made for a game I was working on, with some minor commentary on how they were interlinked and the world they were part of etc. and they got deleted with a message not to repost them unless I also wrote and provided a short fiction piece backstory for them. The next thing that sucks is very hard to define or describe but the entire subreddit has one shared 'voice', they all sound like the same exact teenage writer obsessed with victorian england, ancient egypt, steampunk, and magic, and they want to combine them all. They all use the same naming schemes for their characters and cultures and regions. A post pops up that gets a ton of upvotes and goes to the front page, and then whatever trope it was about gets absorbed into the writing of everyone from the worldbuilding sub. They almost cherish their ability to create entire worlds without using a single original idea. There are constant posts that are like "Hey I decided my world should have ghosts and the main character should have the ability to talk to ghosts and so they get recruited by a big secret agency, but I need help - I can't think of any reason why ghosts would exist, or what the secret agency would do with them, or why my protagonist got the power. Ideas???" where they're just clearly uninterested in the idea of actually doing any world building or creating something of their own and the comments are nothing but people brain-barfing about how that worked for the characters/secret agency/ghosts in their world. Also there's the poor quality of the content there but upon looking at it/reading it I'm pretty sure it's mostly by tweens so that's excusable I guess. And the last bit I guess is that there's very little discussion of worldbuilding or how to build worlds, it's entirely people showing off their embarrassingly-bad fiction worlds or asking questions like "WHY ARE NECROMANCERS EVIL IN YOUR WORLD?" or "WHAT'S THE EQUIVALENT OF ANCIENT EGYPT IN YOUR WORLD?" Anyway overall my problem with it is that it's full of bad content and bad advice, anyone with unique or cool ideas isn't going to post them there because they will get stolen and absorbed by the community, and also because you're not allowed to post teasers or sneak peaks of your material, you have to post it all so that they can absorb it and use your ideas in their dime-a-dozen stories. It's like it's designed from the ground up to keep anyone who's serious about it away. I posted something in a critique thread in /r/writers once and the only things anyone said were things like "I don't know what [word] means." or "whoaaaaa this went over my head lol" or "i think its good!", it was like opening your writing up to Youtube comments. It's like sitting in on a Middle School Fiction Writers club workshop - it's cool that it exists for them and maybe you want to help them out with some critiques but serious writers have nothing to gain from it. Most of this applies to places like /r/writingprompts too I suppose. They're good for complete amateurs getting started but these places should not be engagement-driven communities designed to keep people in the community, reinforcing the bad parts of their work because no one is around for serious critiques, they get invested in the community and stick to all their bad habits instead of growing as a writer. deep dish peat moss fucked around with this message at 03:45 on Jul 10, 2023 |
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Heath posted:I mean this is kind of what I assumed it was based on the name alone but people are talking like there is valuable insight buried in there somewhere so I'm curious what that is "People" is just me. I'm happy to see what other people are putting out in terms of writing, and what's that advice that always gets said whenever someone has a problem with posters? "Just scroll past the bad posts and ignore the posters you can't stand"? Yeah, it turns out you can do that on Reddit too. I don't get something out of reading the sub every time (though I also only read it every few days), but there's usually a few people who have thought about subjects that come up in my project in a different way than I have. Even if their writing sucks rear end, it's still a different frame of reference to think from and draw on. I've had some cornerstones come from different handlings of subjects that I wouldn't have thought of on my own. I'm not going to claim to be a good writer, I'm not. I'm pretty trash at writing actually. I'm sure a professional or even a mildly competent writer would look down their nose at the whole approach. But it brings me joy most of the time, and unlike "fishing for sick dunks on a dead comedy forum" it's a hobby that doesn't come at anyone else's expense.
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You have to believe that most of reddit is kids writing for each other. Its very predictable and can be criticized for many reasons (too insular, self-referential, derivative). But kids have to start somewhere. Sidenote: I don't read it. Reddit clogs up my timeline with subs I don't care about because I accidentially clicked something. Boy do the mods make themselves the least sympathetic people. No wonder the boycott didn't work. Here's a message I got for making a single, probably unread, unvoted, uncommitted on post. quote:Welcome to r/TrueUnpopularOpinion!
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