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Some really strange readings of what Codependent Poster is saying. Although I disagree about the toxicity for the most part 
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Vandar posted:Can we talk about how 'Acknowledge me!' is like, the lamest loving catchphrase? It's supposed to be demanding or whatever but it comes off as so incredibly whiny. I mean to a certain degree, I get it. Roman's heel character is that he's extremely insecure (be nice if the commentary would mention it once or twice instead of constantly polishing his knob) so his heel catchphrase being him begging for attention kinda works. The problem is he has like eight loving million catchphrases and he has to jam them all in and they all sound so goddamn fake.
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Vandar posted:Can we talk about how 'Acknowledge me!' is like, the lamest loving catchphrase? It's supposed to be demanding or whatever but it comes off as so incredibly whiny. I mean imo I think that’s the point and not inconsistent with Roman’s character. He’s a guy who demands respect and wants to be seen as the top dog but is also insanely insecure and abusive. The issue isn’t Roman I think he understands his gimmick. It’s that wwe wants to make him both the top heel and the top face. So even though Roman is being a baby the entire time and needed interference in everyone of his matches he’s presented by commentary as the most unstoppable destructive force in wwe.
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Jul 10, 2023 16:17
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All the Roman stuff would be really good if the company understood the character, but they don't so it all sucks
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Jul 10, 2023 16:18
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[guy cheats in every single match he has to barely win] The most dominant champion in history, the Tribal Chief, acknowledge him.
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Jul 10, 2023 16:18
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MJeff posted:Buddy this whole thing started because you were annoyed that we weren't acknowledging the tribal chief. I guess me saying that I thought it was too long and I'm not sure what the real endgame is but saying that the crowd seemed to enjoy that is being annoyed that people aren't acknowledging the tribal chief? Roman is the worst part of the entire storyline built around him. And that includes a guy who mainly stands around and hits people with his thumb.
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Jul 10, 2023 16:20
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Rarity posted:That took me 25 minutes Good work “Weird” ScoopsgAl.
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Jul 10, 2023 16:24
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yea ok posted:All the Roman stuff would be really good if the company understood the character, but they don't so it all sucks Yeah he's supposed to be a universally powerful wrestler who is better than everyone but also he only wins through cheating and has had multiple visual pinfalls on him over the years. Like if commentary pointed that out it would make sense. But commentary always treats him like he's the strongest, not an arrogant cheating heel.
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Jul 10, 2023 16:24
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Also it’s funny that the anti AEW people on twitter always talk about them destroying kayfabe and all that yet are the people calling for the bloodline angle to win Emmy’s and poo poo like that. Like openly talking about it as this fake angle where it’s them acting and this isn’t real. And like obviously it’s fake. It just makes me laugh.
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Jul 10, 2023 16:26
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Rarity posted:That took me 25 minutes this is extremely good thank you
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Jul 10, 2023 16:27
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If you want a real opinion about the Bloodline segment, here it is. There was an undercurrent of something compelling in the bones of the segment where Roman does the classic abuser move of flipping everything on his victims when confronted about what an awful person he's been, but if his plan was just to attack Jimmy and Jey anyway, why did he try to gaslight them first, why not just lie and act like he was actually sorry? He wants them to drop their guard so he can attack them, just heaping more abuse on them risks accomplishing the opposite of what he wants. And then when you get into stuff like the way WWE scripts their promos, the insanely slow pacing, the overacting (if Jey runs his hands down his face one more time to signal how conflicted he is, I'm gonna punch a dolphin), the fact that it apparently ran super over so they had to cut a bunch of stuff for time and the elephant in the room of this would all make way more sense if ROMAN HAD LOST THE STUPID BELT TO SAMI OR CODY, I think it fuckin' sucked. There you go, a real opinion from someone who really watched it.
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Jul 10, 2023 16:31
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lol that’s 40 minutes of your life you’ll never get back
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Jul 10, 2023 16:33
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By the way, lost in the 40 minutes was something that I dunno if any recaps went over. Roman wears this necklace which I guess makes him the tribal chief. I dunno, they never really put any significance on it other than it being something he wears. So he makes a big deal about putting it on Jey and making him the new tribal chief before he attacks him. The necklace ends up on the mat. Solo is the only one left standing and he picks up the necklace and starts looking at it like he's Boromir and that necklace is the loving Ring of Power. It was loving hilarious. Like if he puts it on that means he's gonna be in charge as if the necklace is the thing that holds all the power. It would be like if you put on a championship belt that you're just automatically the new champ. It was so stupid and hilarious. Just one guy transfixed by this shoddy necklace that he's holding in his hands.
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Jul 10, 2023 16:33
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wwe is "sports entertainment" and draws influence from contemporary programming like game of thrones,
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Jul 10, 2023 16:36
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Rarity posted:Somebody once told me Tony was gonna blow me this is the only reason the wwf thread still exists
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Jul 10, 2023 16:36
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I'd personally like to apologize for contributing to this thread's level of toxicity, by having previously talked about how WWE is a lovely company run by horrible people, and that WWE puts out a legitimately godawful product booked by--and designed solely for--the amusement of the elderly insane rapist who runs it.
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Jul 10, 2023 16:37
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History Comes Inside! posted:lol that’s 40 minutes of your life you’ll never get back Buddy I work a 9-5, there's way more minutes than that that I'm flushing down the toilet every day. Watching WWE's garbage at least gives me something to deconstruct, that's time well spent. Also I watched two youtube clips and skipped most of the beatdown so it was more like 20ish.
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Jul 10, 2023 16:38
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yea ok posted:All the Roman stuff would be really good if the company understood the character, but they don't so it all sucks Honestly this really is it and it why Sami and Cody both losing double sucked, because it felt like those brief shining moments where the company would Get It and it'd be great for both Roman and the one who beat him And then neither did and they're just doing this whole wow look at how dominant he is shtick.And now Jey Uso I guess will be The Guy, maybe. Silly stuff
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Jul 10, 2023 16:39
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I hope The Rock actually returns and wears The Necklace and everyone bows to him and tells him how good and cool he is and how he's the true Tribal Chief
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Jul 10, 2023 16:41
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Erin M. Fiasco posted:Honestly this really is it and it why Sami and Cody both losing double sucked, because it felt like those brief shining moments where the company would Get It and it'd be great for both Roman and the one who beat him It triple sucked because the justification for them losing was that Roman must have the title...to finish the story!! But then all of the "Story" since Mania would be exactly the same, if not better, had he lost the title. Oh well, best angle ever.
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Jul 10, 2023 16:43
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He passed Hogan's longest title reign yesterday so maybe we will soon be free or we are now on the Morales Countdown instead
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Jul 10, 2023 16:44
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MJeff posted:If you want a real opinion about the Bloodline segment, here it is. The other day I watched an episode of Raw is War that had this incredible segment where mega heel Bret Hart hugged Owen and Bulldog and pleaded for them to stop fighting and for them to all be a family and when he did it he looked into the camera with a thousand yard stare while Bulldog and Owen cried on his shoulders and it's like...I think they're trying to go for this but WWE cannot help but make it Sports Entertainment™ and go back to a really easy trope toolbox with no variation because they think the audience is loving stupid at its very core and when you factor in everything else that went into this segment it's just tiring honestly
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Jul 10, 2023 16:45
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Codependent Poster posted:By the way, lost in the 40 minutes was something that I dunno if any recaps went over. Roman wears this necklace which I guess makes him the tribal chief. I dunno, they never really put any significance on it other than it being something he wears. So he makes a big deal about putting it on Jey and making him the new tribal chief before he attacks him. The necklace ends up on the mat. Its kinda like Andrade's mask. I thought it was just a cool prop but apparently it's load bearing lore that I'm supposed to care about. (I don't).
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Jul 10, 2023 16:45
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does solo sikoa have a personality or is he just a heavy with a snug thumb. Feel free to grade this on a curve with the amount of personality that the rest have.
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Endless Mike posted:I hope The Rock actually returns and wears The Necklace and everyone bows to him and tells him how good and cool he is and how he's the true Tribal Chief imagining them drooping the necklace on that dumb egg from that Netflix movie
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Jul 10, 2023 16:46
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I don't think CP is defending the product and culture at all, it sounds like they just wish they could laugh at it with us instead of a bunch of "lol if you think I'm watching that garbage," so I can see being frustrated by the overwhelming stance here. I think a good rule of thumb might be that if you want to discuss something that happened on WWE TV earnestly, you should post a clip! At least for me, I'll usually click on something if somebody thought it was worth talking about, but I'm never going out of my way to find an episode of raw. I'd probably flip through this 40min bullshit to see how stupid it was if there was a quick link.
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Jul 10, 2023 16:47
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MJeff posted:And then when you get into stuff like the way WWE scripts their promos, the insanely slow pacing, the overacting (if Jey runs his hands down his face one more time to signal how conflicted he is, I'm gonna punch a dolphin), the fact that it apparently ran super over so they had to cut a bunch of stuff for time and the elephant in the room of this would all make way more sense if ROMAN HAD LOST THE STUPID BELT TO SAMI OR CODY, I think it fuckin' sucked. They keep kicking the can down the road on putting someone over Roman and it's so dumb. First it was because they thought the Rock was gonna come back. After that it's because... I don't know, because they still think the Rock is gonna come back? Drew shoulda won, then Sami, then Cody. We know Jey isn't gonna win so what's the point other than still dragging it out? Dick Swiveller posted:does solo sikoa have a personality or is he just a heavy with a snug thumb. Feel free to grade this on a curve with the amount of personality that the rest have. He has no personality, but like I said, this still makes him a better performer than Roman.
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Jul 10, 2023 16:51
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Im Aragorn e: you guys can call whoever else you want, but I'm Aragorn.
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Penguin Patrol posted:I don't think CP is defending the product and culture at all, it sounds like they just wish they could laugh at it with us instead of a bunch of "lol if you think I'm watching that garbage," so I can see being frustrated by the overwhelming stance here. My counter to that is that CP started off by making GBS threads on the posters ITT, and then tried to backtrack to "I just wanted to laugh at WWE like we did TNA back in the day, c'mon guys" when called out on it (while also blaming the posters ITT for talking about how bad WWE is, instead of blaming WWE for putting out a bad product in the first place), and conveniently forgetting that while TNA and WWE are both bad, TNA was at least hilariously bad for much of its existence. WWE isn't even worth making fun of nine times out of ten (with the odd exception like the Uncle Howdy stuff or the Codyvator). It's just a lovely product.
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Jul 10, 2023 16:54
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Penguin Patrol posted:I don't think CP is defending the product and culture at all, it sounds like they just wish they could laugh at it with us instead of a bunch of "lol if you think I'm watching that garbage," so I can see being frustrated by the overwhelming stance here.
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Jul 10, 2023 16:56
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I don’t even have enough time to watch all the good wrestling let alone the bad
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Jul 10, 2023 17:00
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Erin M. Fiasco posted:The other day I watched an episode of Raw is War that had this incredible segment where mega heel Bret Hart hugged Owen and Bulldog and pleaded for them to stop fighting and for them to all be a family and when he did it he looked into the camera with a thousand yard stare while Bulldog and Owen cried on his shoulders and it's like...I think they're trying to go for this but WWE cannot help but make it Sports Entertainment™ and go back to a really easy trope toolbox with no variation because they think the audience is loving stupid at its very core and when you factor in everything else that went into this segment it's just tiring honestly I don't remember when but they absolutely did that spot at some point. Probably when Sami and Jey were fighting, Roman made them make peace or something, everybody hugged and then Roman smirked at the camera and winked.
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Jul 10, 2023 17:03
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Chad Gable and Otis and Maxine are legitimately great in WWE (and Chad Gable is also booked like poo poo.) I don't religiously tune into WWE, I'll watch it if it's running when I have the channels up, but I have yet to be disappointed by anything Chad Gable has done himself. I can be disappointed that they're not treating him like the wrestling machine he is, but on the other side it means I get this goofy storyline from Alpha Academy that is fun. I thought they were going to screw it up a few months ago when Maxine started trying to "lure" Otis away, but putting them all together as a team with Gable training Maxine is both a hoot and a holler.
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Jul 10, 2023 17:04
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I think I can safely say what WWE needs is less 40 minute mock trials and more in-ring birthday celebrations, complete with party hats.
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Jul 10, 2023 17:06
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projecthalaxy posted:He passed Hogan's longest title reign yesterday so maybe we will soon be free or we are now on the Morales Countdown instead I think you got it backwards. he passed Morales and has about 400 days to pass Hogan's longest reign
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Jul 10, 2023 17:07
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mooseinfants posted:I think you got it backwards. he passed Morales and has about 400 days to pass Hogan's longest reign Oh. I was lied to by fun fact twitter. Nightmare!
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Jul 10, 2023 17:08
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projecthalaxy posted:He passed Hogan's longest title reign yesterday so maybe we will soon be free or we are now on the Morales Countdown instead I don’t think that’s true, Hogan had a 4 year reign and Roman is coming up on 3. While next WM seems the obvious end point for this forever reign, it would ‘only’ require extending out to September from there to beat Hogan and put Roman at #3 all time and clear king of the post WM era of champions, so I could easily see a Vince being tempted to hang on just a little further. But at that point we are looking at the Rumble 2025 as the next big PPV you could conceivably have Roman lose on…
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Jul 10, 2023 17:11
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When I first started to reach my wits end with wwe bs (gosh must be aught near 5-6 years now) I had fully moved into watching it “in the background” while I made dinner or did laundry or played video game. But for every 1 cool or surprising thing I’d happen to catch there were 15 things that made me mad. Wasnt even worth it as filler
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That DICK! posted:When I first started to reach my wits end with wwe bs (gosh must be aught near 5-6 years now) I had fully moved into watching it “in the background” while I made dinner or did laundry or played video game. But for every 1 cool or surprising thing I’d happen to catch there were 15 things that made me mad. Wasnt even worth it as filler Yeah there was a point where I was just getting upset while watching it and ranting. And I hated that I was letting it get to me like that so I just stopped watching.
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