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I'm still waiting for my Genshin KFC bucket Pulled a welt, so I have a guarnatee I'll probably use on kafka. Nice timing with the double calyx, will make this a lot less painful to get him up to speed Garrand fucked around with this message at 17:49 on Jul 10, 2023 |
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MoC 10 aurumatons gained sentience or something. They kept hitting JY with imprison over and over despite having a juicy preservation tank with landau choice in front of them, to the point I had to chain spam fmc taunt, a skill I almost never use. MoC overall feels a bit too long compared to genshin and honkai impact endgame grinds, even if you don't get stuck at any point.
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Leraika posted:probably credits/lc exp/adventurer exp but you should go for the rest of us who aren't in california and report back Gonna buy a round trip flight to California to get 10000 credits and 5 XP items.
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https://twitter.com/honkaistarrail/status/1677658929348882432 looks like there's some info here - from a quick squint it looks like maybe an avatar or two? Lol if you're not using one of trash/gepard's trailblazer portrait/your favorite character tho edit: no, what I thought was an avatar was a sticker. the mystery continues
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the last time i saw a hoyoverse related cafe event was at a macaron shop for hi3 where the line basically extended through the entirety of the outdoor mall. i went to watch a movie and dinner and came back and saw a particular part of the line hadn't moved at all in 4 hours. they'd actually run out of stock a couple hours ago but hadn't told anyone so they'd just been waiting there for no reason, in the sun and in full cosplay also
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Jul 10, 2023 18:10
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Leraika posted:Lol if you're not using one of trash/gepard's trailblazer portrait/your favorite character tho this is wubbaboo erasure
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Kyrosiris posted:this is wubbaboo erasure Correct.
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Kyrosiris posted:this is wubbaboo erasure My therapist says Wubbaboos aren't real.
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Kyrosiris posted:this is wubbaboo erasure whoops yeah the woos too edit: there's a peppy one too, isn't there? in short, you got options.
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Futaba Anzu posted:the last time i saw a hoyoverse related cafe event was at a macaron shop for hi3 where the line basically extended through the entirety of the outdoor mall. i went to watch a movie and dinner and came back and saw a particular part of the line hadn't moved at all in 4 hours. they'd actually run out of stock a couple hours ago but hadn't told anyone so they'd just been waiting there for no reason, in the sun and in full cosplay also
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Jul 10, 2023 18:32
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boredsatellite posted:She's only gotten stronger with Loucha honestly Yeah, Luocha synergizes with Clara so incredibly well that she's become a perfectly viable hard carry even in MoC10 runs.
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hot take: Luocha's auto-heal should synergize with Elation and get stronger based on follow up attack buffs
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This new MoC 1 is the same as the old MoC 3. I just don't have the dps to 3 star it. It really makes me question if I'm even building the right units, but I have to remind myself my second team has all of their traces around level 3, they aren't leveled past 63 or so as well as their lcs, and their gear is poo poo. Team 2 is Serval (for now), Yukong, Welt and Luocha.
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yanqing + tingyun + 50% atk buff is straight up slapping some fools this cycle
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So I keep hearing Yukong could function as a sub-dps, but how do you play her? Is the bulk of her dps on her ult or autoattack? Like, she has that talent to buff up her autos every other turn, but in order to take full advantage of that, that forces you into a 4-turn QEQEult cycle which seems... bad? Do you run her SP-negative (EQEult) or SP-positive (QQEult)? (Or the 4-turn SP-neutral?) Fast or slow? (Specifically if I want to use her as a sub-dps, that is.) I've been reading about folks speed-tuning Slow Yukong to your defensive support/healer to be just slower, and I'm kinda liking it? Healers/defensive support are the least likely to have passive speed/advance forward shenanigans, whereas had you gone Fast Yukong (i.e., tuning Yukong to your DPS) your DPS might accidentally advance past her. If you tune Yukong to your healer, it is unlikely that your DPS advances forward and happens to slot just inbetween your healer and Yukong unless you're massively unlucky. I'm trying out a thing where my entire second MoC team is sub-dps + healer (Welt + Yukong + sub-dps Qingque). I'm really struggling to have everyone's ults line up to Yukong's cadence. Plus, relegating Qingque to sub-dps duty just makes me feel like I'm doing her dirty. SW prob would've been more ideal here as she solves the skillpoint issue (Yukong can run EQEult while SW runs EQQult), but she's been earmarked for my ice team on the other side. Also I must use Qingque. That is non-negotiable.
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Leraika posted:probably credits/lc exp/adventurer exp but you should go for the rest of us who aren't in california and report back There is one 10 miles from me and on my way to/from work but I don't really like tea, unless the reward > 160 jade equivalent I am not sure if it is worth going out of my way. Also just got back from 0 internet connection for 3 days, I am assuming I did not miss any event stuff?
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You are receiving this broadcast as a dream...We are transmitting from the year one nine... nine nine ...You are receiving this broadcast in order t
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facepalmolive posted:So I keep hearing Yukong could function as a sub-dps, but how do you play her? Is the bulk of her dps on her ult or autoattack? Like, she has that talent to buff up her autos every other turn, but in order to take full advantage of that, that forces you into a 4-turn QEQEult cycle which seems... bad? Yukong is just finicky. I'm still building her myself, but I find a 4 turn cycle works best fir me. 3 turns is just too sp hungry, especially if you're using another support like Tingyun or an Erudition character or something. I keep wondering if maybe I should abandon the full Imaginary idea and just run Tingyun instead, but I already have Yukong at level 70 so I may as well get her traces up to speed before making that call. I find a 4 turn cycle works vest for me. 3 turns just runs into skill management issues, whereas 4 turns just means I never have to worry about it. It does mean that sometimes you don't use another character's ult to line it up with her, but it doesn't seem that onerous. It also means you can use her as part of a hard carry team with Tingyun or Bronya and just alternate each supports EQE cycle. Especially good with Tingyun since her skill lasts for 2 turns anyway. Dreamy has a build guide which touches a bit on both 3 and 4 turn cycles. https://youtu.be/srwQ6jKsjHU
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Walla posted:Yukong is just finicky. I'm still building her myself, but I find a 4 turn cycle works best fir me. 3 turns is just too sp hungry, especially if you're using another support like Tingyun or an Erudition character or something. I keep wondering if maybe I should abandon the full Imaginary idea and just run Tingyun instead, but I already have Yukong at level 70 so I may as well get her traces up to speed before making that call. You can 3-turn ult with QQE if you load her up with energy regen rate and energy regen relic set and meshing cogs and unlock her A6.
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If I'm understanding Yukong right (which I might not be, since I haven't built and used her yet), it sounds like controlling turn order is very important since her ability only applies to the two turns after hers. Is this correct? And, if so, can it lead to characters with inconsistent speeds (like Seele or something) having problems with her?
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The easy way to manage that is to pick which character you don't want her to buff, and make sure that she always goes right after them. The supporting characters that you don't want her to waste the buff on tend to not have speed gimmicks.
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yeah the point of Yukong is you want her to buff characters who will proceed to immediately take several actions in a single turn (through ultimates, follow-up attacks/counters, etc) note that Seele's "bonus turns" from Resurgence dont count as actual turns, even if they also arent follow-up attacks. So Seele isn't a completely bad choice to go with Yukong despite the varying speed making it harder to line things up Excelzior fucked around with this message at 23:21 on Jul 10, 2023 |
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Izzhov posted:You can 3-turn ult with QQE if you load her up with energy regen rate and energy regen relic set and meshing cogs and unlock her A6. That's great. Except I'm tb 59, don't have Meshing Cogs or the er set. For me it's either 3 turn and have no sp for my dps, or 4 turn. Those of you who are solidly in the end game have a few more options.
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Wow that's super extremely unlucky to not have meshing cogs at tb 59  Don't worry, I'm sure you'll get some!
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Jabor posted:The easy way to manage that is to pick which character you don't want her to buff, and make sure that she always goes right after them. The supporting characters that you don't want her to waste the buff on tend to not have speed gimmicks. That's probably the easiest way to handle it, but once you have an enemy who slows any one of your party members then your rotation is screwed. She seems to work best with a full DPS party. Something like Luocha, Dan Heng and Serval for instance. That way if you miss your main then it isn't completely wasted.
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MoonCrab posted:Wow that's super extremely unlucky to not have meshing cogs at tb 59 I do have 1 copy, never leveled. The regen from a single copy doesn't seem worth it. Also I've been blessed with E5 Sushang and E6 Serval so it kind of balances out. 
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Hmm, well this game's ER breakpoints are so annoyingly hyperspecific, that's probably true. It might also, not be true  I sure wish it were possible to get ER as a substat 
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Oh I mixed up yanqing and yukong whoops
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Is it just me or is this new MoC much harder than the previous? I was able to make it to MoC 6 with 12 stars relatively easily, but I can't get past stage 3 on this cycle and 1 & 2 are a struggle.
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Excelzior posted:note that Seele's "bonus turns" from Resurgence dont count as actual turns, even if they also arent follow-up attacks. So Seele isn't a completely bad choice to go with Yukong despite the varying speed making it harder to line things up The game calls them Extra Turns and they have a different appearance on the turn list. It's definitely an entire Mechanic even if Seele happens to be the only one who uses it so far. Clarste fucked around with this message at 00:54 on Jul 11, 2023 |
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Annoyingly, Sushang's "go again after ult" is mechanically an extra turn, so she eats both buffs. Not that it's necessarily a bad thing for Sushang to be megabuffed for two back to back attacks, but SP economy takes a hit unless you break the enemy before kicking in VTEC.
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sushibandit posted:Annoyingly, Sushang's "go again after ult" is mechanically an extra turn, so she eats both buffs. Not that it's necessarily a bad thing for Sushang to be megabuffed for two back to back attacks, but SP economy takes a hit unless you break the enemy before kicking in VTEC. to be precise, it accelerates her next turn. if you use her ult during her turn (but before you commit to an action), you don't get a turn after finishing the current one.
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I've seen Dreamy's guide and I wished more people touched up on how she functions as a sub-dps. (Is her DPS mostly tied to her ult or autoattack?) I think she's also insinuating that the EQE playstyle is more supportive? I'm not sure. Anyway there are a few things I disagree with her on in that video, specifically fast vs. slow Yukong. Turns out, there's a ton of dps with AV/speed shenanigans so I didn't even want to bother trying to surgically figure out and tweak everything.  Basically this: Jabor posted:The easy way to manage that is to pick which character you don't want her to buff, and make sure that she always goes right after them. The supporting characters that you don't want her to waste the buff on tend to not have speed gimmicks. Yep, this is exactly what I was saying. I'm doing this ('Slow Yukong') and this has been working very well for me. If you use her technique to open a fight, she can offer coverage for your first two characters on turn 1. Izzhov posted:You can 3-turn ult with QQE if you load her up with energy regen rate and energy regen relic set and meshing cogs and unlock her A6. Right, but I was wondering how to set Yukong up as a sub-dps. I think Cogs is basically out the window, because being a 3* LC you're missing out on so much flat attack. Plus, you're missing out on defensive stats, so you have the Foxian Beauty problem where she dies if anything looks at her funny, so if I went Cogs on her I'd probably run all defensive mainstat relics on her. Walla posted:That's great. Cogs is so good! It enables Tingyun to ult on a 3-turn cycle with EQQ (which also lines up with her E perfectly). Or you can comedy Asta build and have her ult every 2 turns and get 100% teamwide speed buff uptime (as long as you do nothing but mash E on her (don't do this)).
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Futaba Anzu posted:the last time i saw a hoyoverse related cafe event was at a macaron shop for hi3 where the line basically extended through the entirety of the outdoor mall. i went to watch a movie and dinner and came back and saw a particular part of the line hadn't moved at all in 4 hours. they'd actually run out of stock a couple hours ago but hadn't told anyone so they'd just been waiting there for no reason, in the sun and in full cosplay also Honey and Butter? They're notorious for doing that with their anime collabs :'( The macarons are amazing though, particularly the sweet/savory ones like matcha.
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wodin posted:Honey and Butter? They're notorious for doing that with their anime collabs :'( The macarons are amazing though, particularly the sweet/savory ones like matcha. yeah that was the store. do you think it'd be less so like that abysmal waiting considering it'd be a different store?
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Futaba Anzu posted:yeah that was the store. do you think it'd be less so like that abysmal waiting considering it'd be a different store? Will depend entirely on the store, but probably will run more smoothly since it doesn't require artistic talent and stuff to make a drink as opposed to the super-involved character macarons?
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I three starred my first MoC chamber today and I'm so excited  I only just got a solid second team kitted out and leveled to 70 so this is only my second time running MoC.
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