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I think we need some absolute d-grade take on it. Give it to AdoredTV or something.
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Jul 10, 2023 12:50
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Jul 10, 2023 13:34
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How many takes on Mortal Kombat can they really make, honestly? MK9 better be UHD
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Jul 10, 2023 14:41
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I would blow Dane Cook posted:Which youtube tech idiot would you like to see handle this? Overlord gaming / Modern vintage gamer HalloKitty fucked around with this message at 15:19 on Jul 10, 2023 |
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Jul 10, 2023 15:16
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Beve Stuscemi posted:How many takes on Mortal Kombat can they really make, honestly? MK9 better be UHD It's funny that MK8 is MK vs DC and is therefore in that zone now where people are saying maybe it was actually good and due a remaster.
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Jul 10, 2023 15:19
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I would blow Dane Cook posted:Which youtube tech idiot would you like to see handle this? Moore's Law Is Dead 
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HalloKitty posted:Overlord gaming / Modern vintage gamer actually, yeah, modern vintage gamer is perfect. i sincerely doubt they'd let him get anywhere near it though.
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Jul 10, 2023 15:29
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MVG is a cool dude - love this indepth videos. One of the cooler impossible ports was Tomb Raider. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GVSLcqGP7g
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Jul 10, 2023 17:33
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gradenko_2000 posted:Moore's Law Is Dead He's back in hospital. Keeps dislocating his arms, due to constantly patting himself on the back.
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Jul 11, 2023 00:06
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Beve Stuscemi posted:Steve from GN for sure IIRC one of the ampere reviews had a brief GeForce experience bloatware rant because nvidia kept saying to use it… it’ll be that plus all the worst prebuilt segments.
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Jul 11, 2023 02:14
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I would blow Dane Cook posted:Which youtube tech idiot would you like to see handle this? might be a hot take but people really really want denuvo to be proven to kill performance when they're really just mad that they can't pirate the game easily
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Jul 11, 2023 05:22
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Apparently Rich from Digital Foundry already tests most Denuvo games that get cracked with and without the DRM, and he says he's yet to find a case where Denuvo had a noteworthy impact on performance. With Resident Evil Village, that was Capcom's own DRM that was causing problems, and with Doom Eternal it was the anti-cheat stuff. Every time a game comes out with stutter issues, people point their finger at Denuvo instead of the numerous engine issues that are likely at fault.
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Jul 11, 2023 05:32
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Shipon posted:might be a hot take but people really really want denuvo to be proven to kill performance when they're really just mad that they can't pirate the game easily Counterpoint: I don't like unnecessary poo poo running in the background. I'm not a charity I don't buy expensive Hardware to have CPU cycles taken up by loving Copy protection
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Jul 11, 2023 06:17
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Shipon posted:might be a hot take but people really really want denuvo to be proven to kill performance when they're really just mad that they can't pirate the game easily Or, and hear me out here…..denuvo sucks poo poo
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Cantide posted:Counterpoint: I don't like unnecessary poo poo running in the background. I'm not a charity I don't buy expensive Hardware to have CPU cycles taken up by loving Copy protection there's no evidence it does take up meaningful performance, lol
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Shipon posted:might be a hot take but people really really want denuvo to be proven to kill performance when they're really just mad that they can't pirate the game easily Not even remotely. All these anti-piracy schemes and always online crap diminish the chance you can use the product you paid money for, years down the line. If it also hurts performance (and it definitely uses more disk space and increases load times) then it's all a bunch of anti-consumer garbage. Shipon posted:there's no evidence it does take up meaningful performance, lol If you ignore all the evidence, sure https://m.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLYNijcMZoiLRp697-RzKArVtTMbCryrxM
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Shipon posted:there's no evidence it does take up meaningful performance, lol I'm eagerly awaiting the release unprotected exes to every denuvo protected title so we can get independent benchmarks then Edit: also gently caress that I don't care if there is arbitrarily defined "meaningful impact" denuvo deosn't benefit me one iota so I don't want it. Cantide fucked around with this message at 07:07 on Jul 11, 2023 |
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Jul 11, 2023 07:05
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Arguably denuvo and it's ilk benefit everyone through assuring revenue to the studios and publishers which I guess you could tie to future games you may enjoy and continued employment for some
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DRM does not prevent piracy
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Aware posted:Arguably denuvo and it's ilk benefit everyone through assuring revenue to the studios and publishers which I guess you could tie to future games you may enjoy and continued employment for some sure https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2017/09/eu-study-finds-piracy-doesnt-hurt-game-sales-may-actually-help/
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gradenko_2000 posted:DRM does not prevent piracy denuvo sure does or people wouldn't complain so much about it, like games with it do get cracked but either they're that one crazy TERF or the guy who only cracks soccer games
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gradenko_2000 posted:DRM does not prevent piracy Denuvo legitimately does for at least the first two or three months of release, or sometimes longer depending on how little demand there is. It took Resident Evil 4 a couple months to crack and Jedi Survivor still isn't, for instance. Games nobody wants like Redfall may take a year (or may never be cracked). Or b-tier games that people like—if you want to pirate Octopath Traveler II on PC for instance, you have to emulate the Switch version. Dr. Video Games 0031 fucked around with this message at 07:46 on Jul 11, 2023 |
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Jul 11, 2023 07:34
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Shipon posted:denuvo sure does or people wouldn't complain so much about it, like games with it do get cracked but either they're that one crazy TERF or the guy who only cracks soccer games yeah i love drm D shut R the M gently caress up
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denuvo is extremely benign especially compared to tages/fade/starforce (lmao good times) but we'd be better without it, if only so that people would shut up about it
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like the reason why Denuvo wants to litigate this issue of whether or not their DRM costs performance is because it's an argument that manages to sidestep the entire question of the utility of DRM vis-a-vis piracy if they can credibly claim that applying DRM is "free", then the discussion takes a tonal shift towards "who cares?" as regards to whether DRM does or doesn't work but if it does cost performance, then the opposite effect happens, where even if DRM had some economic utility, and even if that utility manages to trickle-down from the publishers to the end-consumer, people are still going to dislike it, for reasons that have nothing to do with its ability to prevent piracy (and whether preventing piracy even helps sales)
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kirbysuperstar posted:denuvo is extremely benign especially compared to tages/fade/starforce (lmao good times) but we'd be better without it, if only so that people would shut up about it FADE in Operation Flashpoint was amazing. It's the one copy protection that was entertaining at least.
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Former Human posted:FADE in Operation Flashpoint was amazing. It's the one copy protection that was entertaining at least. The problem was it was unclear whether it was FADE working or just the usual Operation Flashpoint/ARMA jankiness
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Former Human posted:FADE in Operation Flashpoint was amazing. It's the one copy protection that was entertaining at least. That Arkham Asylum DRM where you couldn't make a crucial jump early on was pretty good too. Same with the Serious Sam 3 DRM that spawned the unkillable scorpion (which I believe is now a speedrun category in and of itself.)
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I think it was Settlers 4 that would make your foundries produce pigs, instead of pig iron, if it thought that you were running it entirely off the HDD ... ... which was a problem because really fast CD drives would trigger the DRM
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remember when everyone was convinced that denuvo was destroying users SSDs based on one poorly sourced anecdote that nobody could ever reproduce there's legitimate arguments against DRM, but with DRM that actually works there's also a baseline of bad faith attacks from pirates who are just mad they can't torrent a game yet
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also in the era of stutter struggle, a lot of users just want something to blame for all the stutter they're seeing, and drm being the culprit is easier to accept than the developer simply forgetting about shader compilation oops
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If something like Denuvo is part of a game, it means that Denuvo Software Solutions, the publisher of the game, the developer of the game, or Valve/Epic/other online distributor all get to control whether you can play a game that you paid for.
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I think Operation Flashpoint's weapon fuckedness was my first actual experience of being hosed over by DRM, I don't remember being too cut up over something I stole fighting back.
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capcom are really bad at implementing crc for their drm which has big performance issues. but gamers are dumb and equate bad implementations to bad technologies if these people had their way, dx12 would also be gone
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kliras posted:capcom are really bad at implementing crc for their drm which has big performance issues. but gamers are dumb and equate bad implementations to bad technologies Doesn't really seem dumb to equate the two when companies keep doing it. That's Denuvo's problem to try to fix if they're so concerned about their reputation Tiny Timbs fucked around with this message at 12:39 on Jul 11, 2023 |
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Arivia posted:That Arkham Asylum DRM where you couldn't make a crucial jump early on was pretty good too. Same with the Serious Sam 3 DRM that spawned the unkillable scorpion (which I believe is now a speedrun category in and of itself.) Spyro's DRM was pretty neat at loving with pirates https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GYSeXLr5sY
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Which it appears they're trying to do. I don't even play games anymore but I don't have a philosophical objection with people being paid for their work and taking reasonable measures to protect that income.
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Honestly I get more irritated with a game I bought on Steam requiring a non-Steam launcher at this point, I use Steam I don't want Ubisoft Connect or EA Play or CDPR Launcher or Rockstar Social Club or the Xbox App to be required as well. Especially when they require another login that I can get locked out of. I can't play Ubisoft games any more (not a huge loss) because I can't log into Ubisoft Connect.
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gradenko_2000 posted:I think it was Settlers 4 that would make your foundries produce pigs, instead of pig iron, if it thought that you were running it entirely off the HDD ... See that sounds funny but I feel you need to make it 100% clear why something doesn't work or you just generate bad word of mouth that results in lower sales because you thought making a joke DRM was funny
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