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It's going to suck and be bad when you have to give up one of the existing Good Rolls for a resistance as well. There's also not that many enemies that only do one type of damage. Oh and no loadouts, so good luck finding and swapping to your fire resist suit after your poison
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Tonetta posted:they released a little more, but not yet on this More than the two they showed on stream? I haven't seen any except the chain lightning one and the barb one that summons multiple ancients to charge.
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Jul 11, 2023 13:57
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Tonetta posted:they said anytime after the 18th patch but there's plenty of time for them to mess it up Wait, what? Is this specifically a HC thing? Like if you die before it happens?
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RadioDog posted:Wait, what? Is this specifically a HC thing? Like if you die before it happens? Hello, max renown dead person here. Yes, if you die on your max renown character you lose it all, unless they change the system. Conversely, if you unlocked 2 renown areas on 1 character and the other areas on another character, you get to pick which ones you shall have on S1, and lose the others.
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Jul 11, 2023 14:09
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bus hustler posted:It's going to suck and be bad when you have to give up one of the existing Good Rolls for a resistance as well. There's also not that many enemies that only do one type of damage. Instead of slotting skulls, we'll slot diamonds (all resist) lol
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Jul 11, 2023 14:56
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Mr. Pickles posted:Hello, max renown dead person here. Yes, if you die on your max renown character you lose it all, unless they change the system. So the play is to max out all the persistent goodies in wt1 and just leave a character there for ever?
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Jul 11, 2023 15:08
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headcase posted:So the play is to max out all the persistent goodies in wt1 and just leave a character there for ever? Until the patch yea. Once the patch drops and you've done the conversion\migration\whatever then you can kill it to your hearts content. Waypoints, map exploration, and statues are all that carryover
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Jul 11, 2023 15:17
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bus hustler posted:It's going to suck and be bad when you have to give up one of the existing Good Rolls for a resistance as well. There's also not that many enemies that only do one type of damage. I think the only resistance ever worth building towards would probably be Fire, mostly because of those explosive AoEs some elites like to drop.
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Mr. Pickles posted:Hello, max renown dead person here. Yes, if you die on your max renown character you lose it all, unless they change the system. In the livestream, specifically here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ih-nvMvxV8&t=5838s, they say you'll be able to get progress from all characters by logging in to each of them. Still sucks for HC players, though if their characters have died.
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Jul 11, 2023 15:22
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Honestly as a mechanic resistances is bad and boring. It's way more fun to have an affix that does something big and wacky or makes your crits better than it is to make you do less damage to a certain kind of enemy in a way that you don't really notice. It's not like an MMO or a souls like where you gear up for a certain boss or dungeon - except at maybe the absolute highest levels of play? Most people just have their main set of gear and that's it. I guess its nice to have a good spread of resistances in your gear, but I mean what a snooze of a concept it all is.
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Jul 11, 2023 15:24
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It’s time to finally admit that defensive stats are boring. Unless you can stack the defensive stats to make you do more damage, in which case they are cool.
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bus hustler posted:It's going to suck and be bad when you have to give up one of the existing Good Rolls for a resistance as well. There's also not that many enemies that only do one type of damage.
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Jul 11, 2023 15:31
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Yep they should just remove them since they ditched primary/secondary rolls from D3. Just another thing where they seemed determined to let loud grognards obsessed with a 22 year old game run the show instead of doing anything new, fun or that they wanted to do. At best it'd be more of the same, they don't work but AFAIK they aren't trying anything fun with them. Just pretty bog standard "fire resistance" stuff that's never really been innovated on. Or leave them and just say we ain't fixing them, some rolls have to be bad
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Jul 11, 2023 15:33
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as a total D2 and ARPG grognard, D4 has been simplified so much they might as well just get rid of resistances
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The bog standard grognards have cargo culted their last cruft.
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Jul 11, 2023 15:37
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Resistances and stat juggling is cool but only if well supported like Grim Dawn.
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If they ever got the resistances to a workable state I imagine you would just want to build to counter the uber boss and maybe try to roll a 100 map that has affixes that deal that damage type. The way the progression currently works I don't think it would really be meaningful otherwise during leveling since you have a lot of control over how strong the enemies you fight are and there isn't much incentive to push really high into the map tiers when just levelling your character.
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Doomykins posted:Resistances and stat juggling is cool but only if well supported like Grim Dawn. only grim dawn had the courage to have like 9 different kinds of damage
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Jul 11, 2023 16:34
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the only resistance that has ever mattered is Lightning resistance. In D2 I never had to worry about any other element but as soon as those shock scarab guys came out, you could die in seconds
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In D4 it seems like fire and or poison death effects are most likely to kill you but i can't see giving up some other good stat to try to stack resistances either.
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Jul 11, 2023 16:44
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DLC Inc posted:the only resistance that has ever mattered is Lightning resistance. In D2 I never had to worry about any other element but as soon as those shock scarab guys came out, you could die in seconds In this one it's poison. I can dodge exploding fire circles, and I have never ever noticed shadow damage, but sometimes my health globe turns gross yellow and I need to slam down five health potions in a row to stop from dying.
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LifeLynx posted:In this one it's poison. I can dodge exploding fire circles, and I have never ever noticed shadow damage, but sometimes my health globe turns gross yellow and I need to slam down five health potions in a row to stop from dying. I was doing an event last night on my rogue when all of a sudden my health dropped to like 1/8th from full, out of nowhere. It was some hosed up combo of an offscreen bone ballista(gently caress those guys for real) and some rear end in a top hat what had dropped a poison pool at my feet. Their poison overlapped with my poison trap, leading to much fun times.
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I've been messing around with a bone spear necro build that uses skeletons and the fire guys are particularly annoying because they can take out all 7 of you skeletons at once. Overall Skeletal Defenders and Cold Mages are pretty good for leveling. They do garbage damage, but the freeze is nice and they stop enemies and bosses from targeting you all the time and make some of your positioning easier. We'll see if they can stay alive as I move up into higher world tier stuff. They are doing OK in WT3 without having to babysit them too much. I don't think you have to give up much damage wise to run them, I'm just using them instead of bonestorm right now and have plenty of points, but I think long term the stand alone DR will probably be better in WT4 unless I can keep them alive without itemizing for minion health. Level 50 Hardcore in WT3 right now though and it's going smoother than my all sacrifice all the time build did on my first necro.
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LifeLynx posted:In this one it's poison. I can dodge exploding fire circles, and I have never ever noticed shadow damage, but sometimes my health globe turns gross yellow and I need to slam down five health potions in a row to stop from dying. you're actually right. the boss I almost died to recently was a spider that poo poo poison and webs everywhere and I was getting hosed up. Man that spider den quest for the venom antidotes is an arachnophobic's worst nightmare
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Also gently caress the person at blizzard who decided that minions should trigger traps.
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hawowanlawow posted:as a total D2 and ARPG grognard, D4 has been simplified so much they might as well just get rid of resistances Basically this, by having armor work against magic schools what is even the point Just have armor apply to all kinds of damage at 100% effectiveness and get rid of resistances Theres no way you can make resistances be worth it ever with 4 affix slots on gear
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exquisite tea posted:It’s time to finally admit that defensive stats are boring. Unless you can stack the defensive stats to make you do more damage, in which case they are cool. Bring back the thorns crusader blizz  Yes I already run a thorns barbarian but I would like a little more proactive prickliness TIA.
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Jul 11, 2023 17:32
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If they added particle effects instead of damage numbers I would pay money for different ones. Bubbles, confetti, kittens, little cupids, cartoon birds, just make them bigger when you do more damage. Hire me Blizzard
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LifeLynx posted:In this one it's poison. I can dodge exploding fire circles, and I have never ever noticed shadow damage, but sometimes my health globe turns gross yellow and I need to slam down five health potions in a row to stop from dying.
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Stubear St. Pierre posted:If they added particle effects instead of damage numbers I would pay money for different ones. Bubbles, confetti, kittens, little cupids, cartoon birds, just make them bigger when you do more damage. Hire me Blizzard Reminds me of my favorite WoW addon back in the very early days. It showed comic book style expressions whenever I did damage. Stuff like KAPOW and poo poo, really fun gimme that
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Mikojan posted:Reminds me of my favorite WoW addon back in the very early days. It showed comic book style expressions whenever I did damage. City of Heroes joked about doing that once and it would have ruled.
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We're all just trying to fill that CoX shaped hole in our hearts Still dream of making it through that login screen some nights
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GoGoGadgetChris posted:We're all just trying to fill that CoX shaped hole in our hearts Private servers exist now and are in the same state as the game was when it shut down!
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wait, should I not be slotting diamonds into my jewelry and rubies into my armor
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Skulls and Topaz.
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ex post facho posted:wait, should I not be slotting diamonds into my jewelry and rubies into my armor I use skulls in jewelry and topaz in armor and emerald in weapons, but I think the armor choice is debatable depending on your class. Skulls and emeralds for jewelry and weapon is 100% for every class though.
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Substandard posted:Skulls and emeralds for jewelry and weapon is 100% for every class though. edit: \/\/\/ same AAAAA! Real Muenster fucked around with this message at 18:39 on Jul 11, 2023 |
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i use rubies in armor as a barb
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I said come in! posted:Private servers exist now and are in the same state as the game was when it shut down! The temptation is there but also I'm not entirely sure the game would hold up to modern standards. The dopamine delivery system is calibrated to 2005 levels, and also I'm pretty sure some of the enemies can CC the player character 
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Substandard posted:I've been messing around with a bone spear necro build that uses skeletons and the fire guys are particularly annoying because they can take out all 7 of you skeletons at once. cold mages do the most damage of all the mages when you give them the aspect that casts blizzard, which makes the vuln they can apply more reliable as well since things chill/freeze much faster IcePhoenix fucked around with this message at 18:54 on Jul 11, 2023 |
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