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Uthor posted:I see people who don't live in America not understanding the details of who popular figures are. If you’re enthusiastic enough to back them like that, then you can be judged by the beliefs of the people you back. Opopanax posted:I remember Millar throwing support behind someone awful a year or two but then he was like "whoops didnt realize they were awful" a few days later, does anyone know what the hell I'm talking about I remember that too. I get the impression he did it to avoid blowback from backing someone awful. So he’ll probably do it here too if people get onto him.
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Opopanax posted:I remember Millar throwing support behind someone awful a year or two but then he was like "whoops didnt realize they were awful" a few days later, does anyone know what the hell I'm talking about I think this was sharing something from Tucker Carlson? I was kinda inclined to give the benefit of the doubt on that because Carlson's whole thing is out of context soundbites that sound reasonable and it's probably easy for a non American to assume that Fox News is a normal news station that is not particularly awful and not, what everyone associates with Fox News.
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Jul 4, 2023 17:51
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Here is Millar during 2011 London riots Since then and considering content of his comics, I'd safely pinpoint his politics as "redfaced dumbass reacting to tv at local pub"
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Ah, that takes me back. A mate of mine said his girlfriend’s reaction to it made him realise he was dating Judge Dredd, they split up soon after. I remember going home through Whitechapel on the second night and the atmosphere was electric, dudes from the local kebab shops armed with machetes and wandering about in case anyone tried anything. 12 years already, goddamn.
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Sentinel Red posted:Ah, that takes me back. A mate of mine said his girlfriend’s reaction to it made him realise he was dating Judge Dredd, they split up soon after. Probably just as well. We all know what happened to Bella Bagley.
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fatherboxx posted:Here is Millar during 2011 London riots My understanding of Mark Millar's politics is that the bit in Kick rear end where Hit-Girl defines the word "Democrat" is more or less what he actually believes. 
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Which is funny as when Red Son came out Millar claims he and his family were communist, or at least had communist leanings. It was well before then that one had learned Millar is a lying liar who tells lies. My favorite being that the movie version of Wanted was what he 'always envisioned' and acted like he was forced to put Secret Society of Supervillain stuff in there.
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Dawgstar posted:Which is funny as when Red Son came out Millar claims he and his family were communist, or at least had communist leanings. It was well before then that one had learned Millar is a lying liar who tells lies. My favorite being that the movie version of Wanted was what he 'always envisioned' and acted like he was forced to put Secret Society of Supervillain stuff in there.
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Nessus posted:I'm sure they're the kind of Communist who are so deep red that they voted for Nixon - twice! He's Scottish so I kinda doubt anyone in his family ever voted for Nixon.
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Dawgstar posted:It was well before then that one had learned Millar is a lying liar who tells lies. My favorite being that the movie version of Wanted was what he 'always envisioned' and acted like he was forced to put Secret Society of Supervillain stuff in there. Source? I met Millar on the Wanted promo tour and he said that the movie was the version he wished he'd written, but never tried to claim that he was forced to write something else.
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Jedit posted:Source? I met Millar on the Wanted promo tour and he said that the movie was the version he wished he'd written, but never tried to claim that he was forced to write something else. I never said he did either. I said 'acted like.' Like you're the one writing, Mark. If you didn't want to put in Halle Berry as Catwoman, you didn't have to. And the supervillain bit was the only thing that made the story interesting in theory (if not execution) so praising the movie story the way he did was weird. Honestly felt a bit like he was throwing his own story under the bus. Dawgstar fucked around with this message at 13:09 on Jul 12, 2023 |
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Dawgstar posted:I never said he did either. I said 'acted like.' Like you're the one writing, Mark. If you didn't want to put in Halle Berry as Catwoman, you didn't have to. And the supervillain bit was the only thing that made the story interesting in theory (if not execution) so praising the movie story the way he did was weird. Honestly felt a bit like he was throwing his own story under the bus. This happens with adaptations sometimes. Stephen King has said the ending of the movie The Mist is better than the ending he wrote for the short story. It's just somebody else later having a better idea for the material. It's not a mark of Millar's poor morality.
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Gripweed posted:This happens with adaptations sometimes. Stephen King has said the ending of the movie The Mist is better than the ending he wrote for the short story. It's just somebody else later having a better idea for the material. It's not a mark of Millar's poor morality. Yeah but in thia case they dropped the whole bloody premise almost entirely.
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David D. Davidson posted:Yeah but in thia case they dropped the whole bloody premise almost entirely. No the bullets still curved
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Dawgstar posted:I never said he did either. I said 'acted like.' Like you're the one writing, Mark. If you didn't want to put in Halle Berry as Catwoman, you didn't have to. And the supervillain bit was the only thing that made the story interesting in theory (if not execution) so praising the movie story the way he did was weird. Honestly felt a bit like he was throwing his own story under the bus. He got paid and it is the only thing that mattered to him
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Millar: Comics broke me... into a new house!
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Air Skwirl posted:He's Scottish so I kinda doubt anyone in his family ever voted for Nixon.
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Dang, see ya Gripweed
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Gripweed posted:No the bullets still curved They didn't in the comic. Edit: Oh. Guess you'll see this in two weeks.
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Been a while since I brought up anything Comicsgate-related but Nazi Van Sciver's latest Robo Frog book hasn't cracked over $400k with the previous two both breaking a million. https://twitter.com/EthanVanSciver/status/1676711041756012545?s=20
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Dawgstar posted:They didn't in the comic. Then what was the loving point of the comic?
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E the Shaggy posted:Been a while since I brought up anything Comicsgate-related but Nazi Van Sciver's latest Robo Frog book hasn't cracked over $400k with the previous two both breaking a million. well cp is nominally allowed on twitter now so ethan will probably see an uptick in potential buyers viewing his posts
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Gripweed posted:Then what was the loving point of the comic? The final page. At least probably according to Millar who regularly thinks himself quite clever despite all evidence to the contrary.
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E the Shaggy posted:Been a while since I brought up anything Comicsgate-related but Nazi Van Sciver's latest Robo Frog book hasn't cracked over $400k with the previous two both breaking a million. Has he even delivered on any of his projects? People might be getting fed up with the grift.
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Codependent Poster posted:Has he even delivered on any of his projects? People might be getting fed up with the grift. They've been MASSIVELY late, coming out years after they were originally promised. He started a campaign for "Reinbow Brute" which is already a few years late but is now opening up this one. I think there's very much a sense that spending $150 for like a 75 page comic isn't worth it, even if it is "OWNING THE LIBZZZZ"
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E the Shaggy posted:He started a campaign for "Reinbow Brute" which is already a few years late but is now opening up this one. I think there's very much a sense that spending $150 for like a 75 page comic isn't worth it, even if it is "OWNING THE LIBZZZZ" However will Ethan survive on just under 400K? Say a prayer for him. The comments on at least one of the BionicToad comics seemed to get progressively more irritated. Bloom might be off the rose.
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Wait a second... All this time and money and Van Schiver has only gotten 2 issues done? Granted the art in that tweet is busy as gently caress but even if the entire comic is like that I'm shocked there's only 2 issues.
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Nyeehg posted:Wait a second... People aren’t buying these things for the quality workmanship
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I know people that struggle to put out an issue every year. (they do comics outside of their day jobs, pay for them out of pocket, and sell them at artist alleys on the weekend)
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Uthor posted:I know people that struggle to put out an issue every year. Yeah, Uncle Ethan is just lazy. It's a lot easier to just babble on a livestream and get people throwing money at you to read whatever they've slammed their forepaws on a keyboard to type out.
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So, this year’s Eisner Award for Best Reality-Based Work went to Flung Out of Space, a biography of Patricia Highsmith, an early comics writer who was an open lesbian who went on to write one of the first lesbian novels with a happy ending. Just, she was a racist. And not a racist that was of the times, she was on record saying that she thought that the Holocaust didn’t go far enough. And this never is depicted in the book. It’s extremely disappointing that the Eisners rewarded the creators. (Also Shuna’s Journey shouldn’t have won Best International Work—Asia because while it’s a wonderful picture book it isn’t a goddamn comic and I will die on this hill)
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I haven’t read the book, it’s only really on my radar because of the Eisner. Not having read it, I’m curious how your description doesn’t really accord with this review of it (and others), which implies it does deal with the racism and anti semitism. https://www.advocate.com/exclusives/2022/3/24/patricia-highsmith-flung-out-space-graphic-novel-biography Are there alternate reviews you’d point me to?
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Jordan7hm posted:I haven’t read the book, it’s only really on my radar because of the Eisner. Not having read it, I’m curious how your description doesn’t really accord with this review of it (and others), which implies it does deal with the racism and anti semitism. quote:But as important as The Price of Salt is, and as beautiful as parts of the story are, Highsmith was an equally terrible and hateful person. She was famous for her virulent anti-Semitism, racism, and sexism, and this book shows that without compromise. She was no hero, and Flung Out of Space doesn't paint her as one. Yeah, the article and quoted creator both imply the work grapples directly with her racism. Now I'm curious about what the work depicts.
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Jordan7hm posted:I haven’t read the book, it’s only really on my radar because of the Eisner. Not having read it, I’m curious how your description doesn’t really accord with this review of it (and others), which implies it does deal with the racism and anti semitism. Not a review per se but this thread is a comics fan with a good knowledge of comics history reading through the book and commenting on it. https://twitter.com/exalted_speed/status/1518256253830635522?s=46&t=X6-Ut4Z5gjBZ_q10eeG_mg He’s Jewish and he notes that they really tone down her bigotry and go out of their way to make her look cool. Edit: for those who don’t want to use Twitter (understandable) one of his criticisms is that she never uses any language stronger than “Jewish” when talking about Jews. This is a lady who called the Holocaust the Semicaust because she didn’t think it killed enough Jews. It’s a major whitewashing considering the level of bigotry she espoused in her real life thetoughestbean fucked around with this message at 02:32 on Jul 29, 2023 |
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I had no idea Patricia Highsmith was that loving racist. I'm not sure I knew she was a lesbian either, but that one is a lot less surprising. I only know her from movies based on her novels and Carrol isn't one of the movies I've seen.
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thetoughestbean posted:So, this year’s Eisner Award for Best Reality-Based Work went to Flung Out of Space, a biography of Patricia Highsmith, an early comics writer who was an open lesbian who went on to write one of the first lesbian novels with a happy ending. Just, she was a racist. And not a racist that was of the times, she was on record saying that she thought that the Holocaust didn’t go far enough. And this never is depicted in the book. What do you mean by “early comics writer”? I’ve read a few of her novels but also Devils, Lusts and Strange Desires a biography and I don’t think there’s anything mentioned. It’s been awhile but I think I’d remember that. Also, hoooly poo poo I knew she had a reputation for being kinda terrible but didn’t realize just how much of a miserable hateful pile poo poo she was til I read that. Killed any interest in reading more of her stuff.
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Bulgaroctonus posted:What do you mean by “early comics writer”? I’ve read a few of her novels but also Devils, Lusts and Strange Desires a biography and I don’t think there’s anything mentioned. It’s been awhile but I think I’d remember that. Also, hoooly poo poo I knew she had a reputation for being kinda terrible but didn’t realize just how much of a miserable hateful pile poo poo she was til I read that. Killed any interest in reading more of her stuff. She wrote a lot of comics for hire during the 1940s. She loving hated that she made comics; she really felt like she was slumming it. To be fair, comics writers were widely looked down upon at the time
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