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DEI is when there's a black person.
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DEI bart, DEI
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Jul 12, 2023 00:58
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zoux posted:DEI is when there's a black person. That's not true, DEI is also when you have to talk about a black person, too.
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Jul 12, 2023 01:14
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this thread is currently participating in DEI. beware
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Jul 12, 2023 02:38
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Dick, every inch.
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Jul 12, 2023 02:39
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daring enchilada instructional
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Jul 12, 2023 02:40
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She wasn’t just a UT professor but an Aggie who was excited to come back. Lol the real rivalry is how each school can embarrass itself the most. A&M is truly tops in that regard.
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Jul 12, 2023 02:51
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https://twitter.com/ProductOfLabor/status/1678802350977187842 mr. biden please, my name is taeyelor and i am an eight year old from round rock texas. we have only had two leaders in the last 22 years and the current leader will be entrenched forever. please send b2 stealth bomber
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Jul 12, 2023 02:59
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lol the tweet wasn’t loading for me earlier so it left me guessing why the offer was watered down. Like was the professor gonna report on it or talk about it in a class? But now it’s INCREDIBLY obvious now that the image loaded.
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Jul 12, 2023 03:54
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property tax press conference in the house about to begin https://house.texas.gov/video-audio/
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Jul 12, 2023 14:18
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i say swears online posted:property tax press conference in the house about to begin No sir  The press conference on "why aren't we putting teacher salaries/gun control/all kinds of poo poo that won't pass in our bill" https://twitter.com/Ramos4Texas/status/1678882315420696576
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Jul 12, 2023 14:42
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zoux posted:
anyway nobody showed up and the stream just ended
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Jul 12, 2023 14:47
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well I mean it's about "property taxes" but no one gives a poo poo about another DOA Dem proposal, I thought it was an actual PC on property taxes with leadership. You know, substantial.
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Jul 12, 2023 14:50
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Gonna be honest, nothing makes me feel more like a Dumb Guy who knows nothing than when you guys are discussing property tax
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Jul 12, 2023 15:08
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Kull the Conqueror posted:Gonna be honest, nothing makes me feel more like a Dumb Guy who knows nothing than when you guys are discussing property tax I simply don’t own property so I can safely say the tax should be higher and not worry about it
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Jul 12, 2023 15:10
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Property tax is a regressive tax and should be abolished in favor of a wealth tax
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Jul 12, 2023 15:12
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Erg posted:I simply don’t own property so I can safely say the tax should be higher and not worry about it I do this too so don't worry jokes posted:Property tax is a regressive tax and should be abolished in favor of a wealth tax 
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Jul 12, 2023 15:12
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I own property, which is how I know that property taxes are strangling our small businesses and humble, aged homeowners.
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Jul 12, 2023 15:14
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If everyone wants to feel dumb we can talk school finance
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Jul 12, 2023 15:14
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I said it
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Jul 12, 2023 15:15
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zoux posted:If everyone wants to feel dumb we can talk school finance wonder what property tax raise it would take to get free breakfasts and lunches in schools
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Jul 12, 2023 15:19
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Erg posted:I simply don’t own property so I can safely say the tax should be higher and not worry about it Sure, but when property taxes increase, rents increase _more_
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Jul 12, 2023 15:19
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zoux posted:If everyone wants to feel dumb we can talk school finance I have a perfect understanding of property tax and school finance actually
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Jul 12, 2023 15:19
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Badger of Basra posted:I have a perfect understanding of property tax and school finance actually Great, can you help me distinguish between tier 1 and tier 2 enrichment pennies and how that interacts with recapture
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Jul 12, 2023 15:21
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what's the golden penny badger
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Jul 12, 2023 15:24
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*snickering* he doesn't know
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Jul 12, 2023 15:27
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Sales tax is the regressive one. Wealth taxes have had plenty theorized, but the ones implemented haven't really been very successful in the places they've been introduced. If you're going by the idea that property owners will just increase rent proportionately to the tax, that logic goes for literally any tax on the wealthy. There are controls that the government can use to try to prevent rising rents if it was genuinely concerned, but it's all irrelevant because the Texas state government hates and the reason Abbot is trying to go after property tax is because it's the one that the wealthy land owners he's pandering to are concerned with.
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Jul 12, 2023 15:28
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I thought we eliminated penny discourse
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Jul 12, 2023 15:29
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SlothfulCobra posted:Sales tax is the regressive one. Wealth taxes have had plenty theorized, but the ones implemented haven't really been very successful in the places they've been introduced. The joke is that property tax is a wealth tax Also regressive tax discourse is so dumb in Europe they pay for their progressive welfare states with VAT taxes and it’s fine, you have to account for the progressivity of what the tax gets spent on
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Jul 12, 2023 15:31
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Badger of Basra posted:The joke is that property tax is a wealth tax Property tax cuts, naturally.
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Jul 12, 2023 15:32
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Sales tax and property tax is regressive. Each of those produce significantly less tax revenue as a function of the taxpayers' wealth as they make more money despite the fact that a rich person tends to generate more sales/property tax revenue than a poor person. The rate at which a person's wealth increases does not match the rate at which they expose themselves to property taxes. An income tax is better, but the way income tax is implemented in the US tends to not be nearly as progressive as it should. A wealth tax would be far more progressive and obviously has a zero% chance of ever becoming a thing. Not that any of this matters, property taxes are considered a progressive tax for the exact same reasons that a sales tax is considered progressive: it's not, it's disingenuous, and the facts and figures can be pointed at to say "see? A rich guy paid more in taxes than a poor person!". Which is why Abbot really wants to provide property tax relief: it benefits wealthy people, and he can pretend it helps normal people. e: If a republican ever wants a thing, it's probably for a bad reason jokes fucked around with this message at 15:39 on Jul 12, 2023 |
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Jul 12, 2023 15:37
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So true we should fund the government by taxing the 30 companies that emit 70% of carbon emissions
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Jul 12, 2023 15:58
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Listening to the hearing on the prop tax bill and this "circuit breaker" thing is literally just a 20% appraisal cap on real property under $5m valuation. They just used the wrong word for it.
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Jul 12, 2023 16:30
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zoux posted:Listening to the hearing on the prop tax bill and this "circuit breaker" thing is literally just a 20% appraisal cap on real property under $5m valuation. They just used the wrong word for it. during house testimony yesterday they were adamant that a circuit breaker is not a cap (  it just triggers a cap)
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Jul 12, 2023 16:36
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jokes posted:Not that any of this matters, property taxes are considered a progressive tax for the exact same reasons that a sales tax is considered progressive: it's not, it's disingenuous, and the facts and figures can be pointed at to say "see? A rich guy paid more in taxes than a poor person!". Which is why Abbot really wants to provide property tax relief: it benefits wealthy people, and he can pretend it helps normal people.
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Jul 12, 2023 16:37
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That's a cap!
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Jul 12, 2023 16:37
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no cap no cap
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i say swears online posted:if property taxes are regressive, why does lowering them benefit the wealthy Late stage capitalism and furthermore, neoliberalism
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property taxes in texas are gerrymandered as all hell
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i say swears online posted:property taxes in texas are gerrymandered as all hell Texas is gerrymandered as all hell.
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