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Frosted Flake posted:Full circle from Armstrong and Elswick building the IJN as Japan first started their navy. I was thinking that, with the exception that the US is unwilling and unable to exapnd industrial capacity becausea space of waterfront property is worthmore as a cookie cutter condo to a landlord than as a shipyard that actually produces things
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KomradeX posted:I was thinking that, with the exception that the US is unwilling and unable to exapnd industrial capacity becausea space of waterfront property is worthmore as a cookie cutter condo to a landlord than as a shipyard that actually produces things in many places yes and the same for marine terminals as well
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KomradeX posted:I was thinking that, with the exception that the US is unwilling and unable to exapnd industrial capacity becausea space of waterfront property is worthmore as a cookie cutter condo to a landlord than as a shipyard that actually produces things
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in some cases the shipyards are still manufacturing facilities, just not shipyards.
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cat botherer posted:It's hard for me to imagine shipyards in Brooklyn. Like a totally alien conception of NYC. at one point nyc proper was the freight hub. there are folks still alive from that period.
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cat botherer posted:It's hard for me to imagine shipyards in Brooklyn. Like a totally alien conception of NYC. Brooklyn Navy Yard    
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imagine the lower end of Manhattan. The entirety of the lower end on both sides, think everything south of the park. the whole thing was packed solid with piers for stick ships from like before the 20’s through the late forties. The customs house (that has an art museum in it now ) was like the center of customs tax revenues. The financial / insurance center on Wall Street was to service all the marine transportation.
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They can turn it around though! At least that bread looks delicious
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hell I remember when the Chinese military used to be afraid of the Brooklyn Naval Yards
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Turtle Watch posted:hell I remember when the Chinese military used to be afraid of the Brooklyn Naval Yards hmm... reindeerflotilla
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNop81ykCjs ruh roh
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celadon posted:why would you build ships to rebuild the us navy if it got exploded and you're like right next to china which makes all the things in the world, why not change sides to the one capable of material production The war hasn't started just yet, maybe the USA could buy a navy from China?
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this situation sums it up pretty wellThroatwarbler posted:https://twitter.com/zhao_dashuai/status/1610683654921150464?t=AGGQyCDFErvLO6beLfJmdg
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cat botherer posted:It's hard for me to imagine shipyards in Brooklyn. Like a totally alien conception of NYC. Things used to be made in New York, its how anyone that isnt a wealthy midwest failkid used to be able to afford to love herr
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Where are the self assembling quad copters?
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KomradeX posted:Things used to be made in New York, its how anyone that isnt a wealthy midwest failkid used to be able to afford to love herr That was before the city was purified and achieved its final form as a huge glowering pile of capital
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 Future game designers will have a hell of a time modelling our society that both cut welfare and doesn’t produce anything.
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Frosted Flake posted:
Not really. Just tack on a capitalism brain poisoning modifier with various stages that eats economic output.
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https://twitter.com/louischeung_hk/status/1677717779624112130 to provide defense against the chinese manhacks i propose equipping the troops with standardized crowbars
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China knows how to make boats. The US has forgotten how to make boats The mandate of heaven is clear
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Cao Ni Ma posted:China knows how to make boats. The US has forgotten how to make boats bar ran dunishly: yes, but here is why you’re wrong…
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Centrist Committee posted:bar ran duning krugerishly: yes, but here is why you’re wrong…
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They will simply dragoon Korea and Japan into it
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Slavvy posted:They will simply dragoon Korea and Japan into it Wargame: Red Dragoon
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The US will seize the shipyards and immediately sell them to a hedge fund.
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Bar Crow posted:The US will seize the shipyards and immediately sell them to a hedge fund. Don't be silly, there will be several cycles of consultant carrion-feeding before the remains are loaded with hundreds of millions in debt and then stripped for parts by a hedge fund.
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The Oldest Man posted:Don't be silly, there will be several cycles of consultant carrion-feeding before the remains are loaded with hundreds of millions in debt and then stripped for parts by a hedge fund. Did you read the report on Australian shipbuilding? I think I linked it to this thread. It says that, more or less verbatim, when explaining why Australia can barely paint their ships, let alone construct nuclear submarines.
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methalox sucks and is bad but the private space industry is obsessed with it
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Huffing their own farts all the way into low earth orbit
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atelier morgan posted:methalox sucks and is bad but the private space industry is obsessed with it why does methalox suck?
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Frosted Flake posted:Did you read the report on Australian shipbuilding? No!!!
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71123 posted:why does methalox suck? because its cryogenic, like hydrolox, but absolutely nothing can beat hydrogen at its game because its the smallest possible atom. methane is a big stupid pile of carbons that is poo poo rear end awful by comparison, and if you need to use a big stupid pile of carbons (because you need something that isn't cryogenic) you can use kerolox, which is better its all abloo bloo natural gas is 'green' and 'sustainable' which is a farce, but a farce with grant money and NGOs on the line the space shuttle went up with hydrolox, the saturn v with kerolox, the chinese space program uses both, dipshits like space-x and blue origin are the only morons to touch methalox e: if you need something stable you use a horror compound of hydrazine (udmh or mmh) and accept that it'll kill anything it touches atelier morgan has issued a correction as of 00:31 on Jul 13, 2023 |
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Frosted Flake posted:
how are those supposed to be mutually exclusive?
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