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Mr. Nice! posted:Here's an example what a biglaw partner in NYC's schedule is like: so what's his drug habit looking like?
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Jul 12, 2023 20:26
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Mr. Nice! posted:Here's an example what a biglaw partner in NYC's schedule is like: lol no way, this is psychotic It can be hard to tell when somebody is running this kind of schedule because that's what the work actually demands or if it's because of some other factor. "We were poor and I need to support my family" doesn't cut it when the differential value of earning $400k instead of $300k doesn't actually change much in terms of survival. Tiny Timbs fucked around with this message at 20:38 on Jul 12, 2023 |
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Jul 12, 2023 20:33
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Mr. Nice! posted:Here's an example what a biglaw partner in NYC's schedule is like: "I will do anything to support the family I will never actually see or get to know." JFC. I think that working in biglaw should be disqualifying for SCOTUS appointments since we do not want anyone who thinks this is acceptable deciding law for normal human beings who want a life and family.
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Jul 12, 2023 20:56
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Yuns is a bit abnormal because of his BJJ and gym routine. He's basically the only biglaw partner with a six pack and could beat up everyone in a court room. However, working extremely long hours at the office and hours of work at home are not uncommon in biglaw. You work your rear end off for that pay. Also, biglaw is the outlier and not the norm. In 2021 lawyers had a median salary of just under $130k that year. The top 25% threshold is just under $200k. The bottom 25% earned less than $82k. source: https://money.usnews.com/careers/best-jobs/lawyer/salary
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Jul 12, 2023 20:59
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He used to post alot in the grapple goons thread, I cant remember exactly but I think he was a danaher or renzo black belt which is a pretty big accomplishment his crazy lawyer schedule not withstanding.
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Jul 12, 2023 21:04
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Oh cool if he doesn't exercise at all he gets a healthy 5:45 of sleep per night...
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Jul 12, 2023 21:05
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Mr. Nice! posted:Yuns is a bit abnormal because of his BJJ and gym routine. He's basically the only biglaw partner with a six pack and could beat up everyone in a court room. Curious about his pharmaceutical intake to be able to actually recover from two long gym sessions on three hours of sleep.
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Jul 12, 2023 21:14
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I'm interested in how productive he is in those meetings. And how productive those meetings are. Frankly I'm a little sceptical that workday is an efficient product inside any healthy societal system
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Jul 12, 2023 21:34
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ThisIsJohnWayne posted:I'm interested in how productive he is in those meetings. And how productive those meetings are. Frankly I'm a little sceptical that workday is an efficient product inside any healthy societal system That caught my eye too. My concept of a "meeting" is coordination of actual work between multiple people or departments; it's not productive work in itself, so you want to minimize how many of them you're having. Is it different in a legal context? Like it's "meeting with clients" or something like that, where the actual act of meeting people is the "product"?
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Jul 12, 2023 21:41
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Mr. Nice! posted:Here's an example what a biglaw partner in NYC's schedule is like: I have a high-strung coworker who used to have a similar sleep schedule to this while working two full time jobs back to back for years on end. He'd clock out after a full day at our mutual job, go home and get maybe 3-4 hours of sleep before waking up and putting in a 12 hour shift at his other gig, and then maybe a few hours of downtime before going back to job 1. He once mentioned to me how he had a heart attack a couple of years back, because I guess your body can only take the grindset/hustle lifestyle for so long before it goes "nope, not doing this anymore". Not sure how old the guy is but I'm pretty sure he's a decent bit younger than me, late 20's maybe. Sure made a lot of money though!
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Jul 12, 2023 22:31
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Mr. Nice! posted:Here's an example what a biglaw partner in NYC's schedule is like: As a Finn used to 37,5h work week even as an IT consultant that sounds like absolute hell to me. How does that person simply not die from some heart issue before they hit 40 is something I can't comprehend.
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Jul 12, 2023 22:43
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Ataxerxes posted:As a Finn used to 37,5h work week even as an IT consultant that sounds like absolute hell to me. How does that person simply not die from some heart issue before they hit 40 is something I can't comprehend. They often do. I know of at least two that died from heat attacks due to overwork that I personally worked with.
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Jul 12, 2023 22:53
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Dying of a heart attack due to overworking is just loving insanity and has no place in a functional society. They can't even contribute to the production of more capital when they're dead! hosed up and selfish.
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Jul 12, 2023 23:28
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We're also the only living creatures on this whole planet that intentionally wrench themselves out of natural sleep.
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On the real though it's cool the US has this hosed up culture that it's good and cool to have no existence outside a job that will discard you when opportune. Glad the stories I hear about zoomers are they aren't down for it and don't want to work, etc because boy I regret buying into the lie when younger
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The Eyes Have It posted:We're also the only living creatures on this whole planet that intentionally wrench themselves out of natural sleep. Civilization was a mistake
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My last year in the Army I dated a bartender that worked crazy hours and she got legit angry at me when I was talking about work/life balance. Apparently caring about that kind of thing means I'm a lazy piece of poo poo. I've had the same reaction from other women working similar jobs. loving bizarre. maffew buildings posted:On the real though it's cool the US has this hosed up culture that it's good and cool to have no existence outside a job that will discard you when opportune. Glad the stories I hear about zoomers are they aren't down for it and don't want to work, etc because boy I regret buying into the lie when younger I never bought into it, every job I worked before I joined the Army paid poo poo and offered no benefits. I couldn't leave Florida fast enough.
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Some of us are hosed up in the head when it comes to sleep, like me. I'm a total night owl and have insomnia, so working my current 9-5 5-days a week schedule feels hellish to me. I utterly miss working my old 4 days on 4 days off shiftwork: 12 hours on a day, 12 hours off, 12 hours on a day, 24 hours off, 12 hours on a night, 12 hours off, 12 hours on a night, 4 days off. And then there were the Panamas that I also worked at times too, where we switched either every 2 weeks or every month. Rinse and repeat for 14 years with me as happy as a clam, until my ex convinced me to get off shift work. I'm totally going to die early from shift work, and I don't mind it. edit: I'm guessing that that much work that some lawyers do is why they're portrayed as loving cocaine in movies & such Jimmy Smuts fucked around with this message at 00:20 on Jul 13, 2023 |
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Mustang posted:My last year in the Army I dated a bartender that worked crazy hours and she got legit angry at me when I was talking about work/life balance. Apparently caring about that kind of thing means I'm a lazy piece of poo poo. She’s just unintentionally preparing herself for motherhood.
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Jul 13, 2023 00:32
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Jarmak posted:Big Law starting salaries are up to 215K fresh out of law school, they hit 300+ within a few years. I know a guy that was a new grad working family law, a partner in another firm wanted to retire and handover her Rolodex of clients and for some reason, thought this guy would be perfect. But he wasn't interested in her niche and turned it down and is still doing grunt work years later. That niche? Equine law. His reason? "I don't like horses." Bitch, you don't need to like horses. Do you know who needs lawyers for horse-trading? Royals, sheiks, super rich crazy-horse-girls' dads. That's when I knew he was an idiot, even went to the same Tier 4 law school as Michael Cohen.
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Jul 13, 2023 00:59
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I’ll have to post a lovely pay period I have coming up soon. ATC schedules are pretty hosed. On the plus side we can’t work more than 60 hours in a week. Can only do 6 days in a row and no more than 10 hours a day. Controllers all over the place are getting very burned out from years of mandatory overtime
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Arrath posted:Civilization was a mistake This is the result of industrialization not civilization.
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Stultus Maximus posted:This is the result of industrialization not civilization. I definitely don’t think of farmers when someone brings up sleeping in.
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AreWeDrunkYet posted:I definitely don’t think of farmers when someone brings up sleeping in. Certain not post industrial farmers. But getting up at dawn is natural.
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AreWeDrunkYet posted:I definitely don’t think of farmers when someone brings up sleeping in. I also don't think of farmers when someone brings up staying late at work.
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Jul 13, 2023 01:34
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Stultus Maximus posted:Certain not post industrial farmers. But getting up at dawn is natural. Maybe it is natural sometimes, but even if you're still tired staying in bed was not exactly optional for pre-industrial farmers who needed every bit of sunlight. Roosters crowing isn't tolerated on farms because people like the sound, it's because it's time to get the gently caress up whether you like it or not. And the large majority of people in pre-industrial societies were farmers. Would be interested in seeing some data points in the other direction, I'm just not convinced that people slept until they felt like it before industrialization.
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AreWeDrunkYet posted:Maybe it is natural sometimes, but even if you're still tired staying in bed was not exactly optional for pre-industrial farmers who needed every bit of sunlight. Roosters crowing isn't tolerated on farms because people like the sound, it's because it's time to get the gently caress up whether you like it or not. And the large majority of people in pre-industrial societies were farmers. I am on summer break. I go to sleep when I’m tired and get up at dawn because the sun wakes me up. A short afternoon nap feels right and I’m pretty sure this is preindustrial agrarian sleep patterns.
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AreWeDrunkYet posted:Would be interested in seeing some data points in the other direction, I'm just not convinced that people slept until they felt like it before industrialization. I mean, I’m sure some did, they were addressed as “milord”
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Wingnut Ninja posted:That caught my eye too. My concept of a "meeting" is coordination of actual work between multiple people or departments; it's not productive work in itself, so you want to minimize how many of them you're having. Is it different in a legal context? Like it's "meeting with clients" or something like that, where the actual act of meeting people is the "product"? Every client is different. If someone is hiring a big law partner to do something, they want some face time.
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Saul Kain posted:Every client is different. If someone is hiring a big law partner to do something, they want some face time. And by the time they're a big law partner, they're not actually doing any work, right? The hours may be long but are they really doing anything other than meeting with clients and delegating the actual work to more junior lawyers?
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AreWeDrunkYet posted:And by the time they're a big law partner, they're not actually doing any work, right? The hours may be long but are they really doing anything other than meeting with clients and delegating the actual work to more junior lawyers? Meeting with clients is a major part of the work. You’re renting out specialist knowledge that might be applied differently depending on what the client did/said/can prove. Then you prepare documents based upon those meetings. It’s like doing homework for a living.
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Saul Kain posted:Every client is different. If someone is hiring a big law partner to do something, they want some face time. So to answer my question, it sounds like yes, it is different than meeting with other people within the company to coordinate efforts. More like an agent or a doctor for whom seeing clients is a main part of their job.
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Wingnut Ninja posted:So to answer my question, it sounds like yes, it is different than meeting with other people within the company to coordinate efforts. More like an agent or a doctor for whom seeing clients is a main part of their job. Great way to describe those type of meetings. In fact, many lawyer interactions invoke a fiduciary relationship.
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AreWeDrunkYet posted:Maybe it is natural sometimes, but even if you're still tired staying in bed was not exactly optional for pre-industrial farmers who needed every bit of sunlight. Roosters crowing isn't tolerated on farms because people like the sound, it's because it's time to get the gently caress up whether you like it or not. And the large majority of people in pre-industrial societies were farmers. We know that for a good while we were getting up in the middle of the night to do poo poo. I'm not going to look for it on my phone, but I remember reading/watching something that indicated various sleep patterns across the population, more so the further back you go. I wonder how much different sleep patterns are due to the environment versus genetics.
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People stopped waking up at 2am to eat after the bombs fell
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https://wapo.st/3rq7jrf Paywall free article about the recent severe weather we've been experiencing all around the world. I really hate to say this but we've had almost 200 years of industrialization that have driven global warming. Yeah, the alarm bells are going off pretty starkly but are we so naive to think that we're going to be able to somehow turn this around or limit the degree of warming to 2 degrees?
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A.o.D. posted:I also don't think of farmers when someone brings up staying late at work. You gotta stay up late so after all the green tractor dealers are closed you can talk to the Eastern European hackers that know how to hack the ECU to allow you to burn or bypass the DPF yourself because you’re going to lose your crops before the factory service guy can drive out, plug in the special computer and push a button
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Jonny Quest posted:I know a guy that was a new grad working family law, a partner in another firm wanted to retire and handover her Rolodex of clients and for some reason, thought this guy would be perfect. But he wasn't interested in her niche and turned it down and is still doing grunt work years later. Have you been around horse people? They seriously wouldn’t last long without at least being neutral. Transactions and contracts will require deep domain knowledge the equine industry and their clients will not trust them if they don’t know the basics of the industry, breeding, racing and so forth.
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