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Tristesse posted:Sure! He's an droolie cantankerous little grump so the namesake fits. Uncle Baby Daisy should start on Uncle Baby Billy's Bible Bonkers.
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Note of appreciation for how this show handles showing violence. There's bunch of comedy in it, like the Lisson's deaths at the end of S2, and Jason Schwartzman's whole thing, but this show has taken a note from Fargo and doesn't present the effects of it as funny at all.quote:Noah Hawley.: I never want violence to be entertainment. Thinking about Fargo, with the Coen brothers as a model, the violence in their movies is always sudden and always gruesome. My approach in Fargo has been that violence onscreen is a useful way to help the viewer examine what they wanted to happen. You thought you wanted violence because we're trained to want violence, but what if the violence is ugly and awful? It's not so easy, I hope, to root for one person to kill another person. With the Lisson's them trying to imitate a movie scene of jumping out of a closet thrown off a second story is comedic, but then she gets blown apart and man you can't help but feel sorry for her. There's a brutality to a lot of it that it's appreciated, I guess is what I'm saying. End of this episode hit in that way, where there was no goofs to it. No dynamic camera angles, just a guy committing a petty crime that went too far. CatstropheWaitress fucked around with this message at 15:07 on Jul 10, 2023 |
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It's always interesting the way that McBride etc can turn your sympathies around. Peter ultimately just wanted a little bit of something to make sure that his kids didn't have to live in poverty and was taken advantage of by the same people who then wanted to make it right. There's an interesting parallel with Eli and Peter with May May saying that Eli was always greedy when chances are he just didn't want to live in poverty either. As noted, they even add shades to Amy-Lee who was complicit in the Y2K scam even though it's clear that they never acknowledged to eachother that's what it was. I don't think she wants to live in poverty either, but I think she was being earnest when she talked about wanting a simpler time for their kids. And the way this show works I really was expecting that kid that Jesse humiliated to come back in some fashion.
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I thought it was really interesting how giving the money back was never an option for Eli. He and Aimee only go forward, never back. Agreed that the younger gemstones are the best young versions of any character in TV history. I think it’s easier when Judy and Jesse are so specific with their voices, dialogue and mannerisms, but Young Jessie’s voice is so identical it’s downright spooky. Also, the interview did its job, there are no questions about the opening scene of the season. We know exactly why Eli’s sister did what she tried to do. I guess the question is who drove the car, but my outside guess is Judy. Edit: re-watching intermission one, they’ve been using the “praise the Lord” intro song for at least 35 years. Golden Bee fucked around with this message at 20:48 on Jul 10, 2023 |
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DrVenkman posted:It's always interesting the way that McBride etc can turn your sympathies around. Peter ultimately just wanted a little bit of something to make sure that his kids didn't have to live in poverty and was taken advantage of by the same people who then wanted to make it right. There's an interesting parallel with Eli and Peter with May May saying that Eli was always greedy when chances are he just didn't want to live in poverty either. The way I thought about it was that she would be happy to live a simpler life, but only if everyone else had to as well. So if Y2K did destroy the world, she'd be fine living off the bucket rations and not having fancy things. But she would never give up her fancy lifestyle while there were other people still living in such a way.
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Aimee-Leigh joining Eli at the end and getting them to stop protesting feels like a Rubicon crossing for her, who refused to take the dirty money in the last flashback in 1993. Is the flashback at the top of the season the only time we've seen her smoking? I'm very curious to see what she's like in subsequent interludes after this moment.
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It’s cool that the most Serious character on this season of an absurd comedy is played by Ivana Humpalot.
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moist turtleneck posted:3rd rock from the sun is still sneaky good Holy poo poo that's where I recognise her from. Have spent every episode she's in going "this feels familiar but why...."
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Golden Bee posted:I thought it was really interesting how giving the money back was never an option for Eli. He and Aimee only go forward, never back. Yeah I kept waiting for him to say they were going to give everyone their money back, which would've been an easy win for Eli but would've been extra cruel to Peter because everyone would've got their money back except him.
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Fuckin hell yeah of course Jesse would wear fubu
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moist turtleneck posted:Fuckin hell yeah of course Jesse would wear fubu Also lol at young Judy wearing one of those bandana tops.
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Henchman of Santa posted:It’s cool that the most Serious character on this season of an absurd comedy is played by Ivana Humpalot. I knew the actress since her introduction at the start of the season but it didn’t dawn on me until now that actors who played Fred and Wilma Flintstone are now playing siblings. Yes, I know it was different movies, put the well actually away. Also, Gideon probably got conceived a year to two after this episode. He’s supposed to be like what, twenty years old? Detective No. 27 fucked around with this message at 05:07 on Jul 11, 2023 |
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DrVenkman posted:And the way this show works I really was expecting that kid that Jesse humiliated to come back in some fashion. I bet that kid is the band dude Judy hooked up with. Same sense of style, musically talented, has a vendetta against Judy, clearly a dick.
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Look, I understand desperation, but to get it in your head that you can't go against your wife so instead you stage a very poorly planned armed robbery of a bank that results in a murder seems like a reach at the time for that character. I agree with comments earlier that apparently May-May is the true villain here. All of the child actors absolutely nailed the performances of the older actors, good lord
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This is a show about poor impulse control. We don’t know everything about that character, but there is a gemstone distortion field which makes people act extremely eratically. It’s super funny that uncle Baby Billy has been pitching the family on business ventures for more than 30 years.
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When is Eric Roberts coming back to help his old friend deal with all this crap
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FlamingLiberal posted:Look, I understand desperation, but to get it in your head that you can't go against your wife so instead you stage a very poorly planned armed robbery of a bank that results in a murder seems like a reach at the time for that character. I agree with comments earlier that apparently May-May is the true villain here. Would YOU go against May-May when her first introduction to us was chasing down Aimee-Leigh?
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Mirotic posted:Would YOU go against May-May when her first introduction to us was chasing down Aimee-Leigh?
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FlamingLiberal posted:We still need to find out what that was about May May says the same thing she says in the premiere to Aimee-Leigh in this episode, that she sees right through her. She views - rightly! - that Aimee-Leigh enables Eli's outright greed by putting a more honest and believable veneer on it. The protesters weren't buying what Eli was saying at the end until Aimee-Leigh came out. The only difference is that by the premiere, Peter is now in prison after the failed robbery and killing the dude - which May May likely blames on the Gemstones.
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Wait, yeah, did Peter serve out a prison sentence, or has he been on the run this whole time? Did the militia members ever say what exactly they were being raided for/about? I assumed illegal guns, but maybe they were looking for Peter? Apologies if I missed something!
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Read After Burning posted:Wait, yeah, did Peter serve out a prison sentence, or has he been on the run this whole time? Did the militia members ever say what exactly they were being raided for/about? I assumed illegal guns, but maybe they were looking for Peter? He had just recently gotten out of prison at the start of the season. I doubt most of the guns at that compound were legally held. Peter certainly wouldn’t be allowed to be around those firearms as a condition of his sentence. It’s also clear they were planning a terrorist act. I would assume that he didn’t get life because he was being shot at by the guard while running away, and he shot the guard to save his own life. We are taking a 30+ year sentence. He could also be an informant or something. He’s been shown to be a spineless coward now with the flashback. And it wouldn’t surprise me if may may is running the show here with all this.
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Gotcha, I forgot they specifically mentioned that he just got out of prison!  And now we know what he did to get a prison sentence.Pilfered Pallbearers posted:And it wouldn’t surprise me if may may is running the show here with all this. I already suspected this, but yeah, this flashback episode totally confirmed it for me. Pilfered Pallbearers posted:He could also be an informant or something. Peter was an informant against his own militia compound. 
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moist turtleneck posted:i hope the megachurch gets blowed up and they have to go back to worshiping God the old way I'd love a shot of the characters looking forlorn in silence surrounded by ash and rubble. All is lost, the parishioners have abandoned them, SEC and FTC or whoever take the church down for everything they have. Then quietly BJ just breaks into, "Praise the Lord, his righteousness at hand" as the rest join in.
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Detective No. 27 posted:Also, Gideon probably got conceived a year to two after this episode. He’s supposed to be like what, twenty years old? McBride would have been 24 in 2000 vs the 16ish young Jesse, so the retrofit seems a little clumsy. Guessing they just wanted to do the y2k thing but also continue using the same young-version actors. Those kids are all great, so can't fault them there.
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I took it as Jesse at age 18 or so, around freshman year of college
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Yeah Jesse is off at college, that’s presumably where he met Amber and Judy mentions feeling lonely since he left
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Pilfered Pallbearers posted:He had just recently gotten out of prison at the start of the season. I doubt most of the guns at that compound were legally held. Peter certainly wouldn’t be allowed to be around those firearms as a condition of his sentence.
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The math that really cracks me up is how old is Kelvin supposed to be. He looks the same at 4 years old and 11 years old. That said I completely forgive them since no other actor could've said "Don't tell momma and daddeh" exactly as Kelvin correct as that kid does. Edit: Duurrr Kelvin wasn't born yet in the first interlude I shouldn't try to think when I'm not awake. Tristesse fucked around with this message at 15:01 on Jul 12, 2023 |
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ChesterJT posted:Let's compromise: Jesse says feeeeeexins one time in an episode this season and it never comes up again. Saying "crucifeeeeeexins" would be a lot more organic.
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it really does feel to me like they're building toward May May and Peter still being in cahoots. I don't see them coming out of that scenario with Peter hating May May and May May fearful of him. And it'd definitely be a lot easier to build that commune from outside prison than in it. I'm guessing May May used all the leftover Y2K poo poo to build up a survivalist commune. Maybe Peter did build up a militia following in prison, but it'd be funnier if they swerve that since they kinda just did that on Barry. I assume they're working together to do Big Terror and ensure the Gemstones downfall, with May May still actually still calling the shots. The only real point against this is that it would be weird for them to play act with their two sons and cut one of their dudes ears off etc. rather than just say "go to the Gemstones compound as part of our plan" but I can see that being them wanting to make it convincing.
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That DICK! posted:it really does feel to me like they're building toward May May and Peter still being in cahoots. I don't see them coming out of that scenario with Peter hating May May and May May fearful of him. And it'd definitely be a lot easier to build that commune from outside prison than in it. The sons are too stunted and dumb to not let it slip, IMO. May may beat ami-Leigh with a wrench. Peter shot and killed an innocent guard at a bank robbery. I very much doubt they’re above cutting off a piece of their own sons ear.
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That DICK! posted:it really does feel to me like they're building toward May May and Peter still being in cahoots. I don't see them coming out of that scenario with Peter hating May May and May May fearful of him. And it'd definitely be a lot easier to build that commune from outside prison than in it. My theory is that Chuck is in cahoots but Karl is just along for the ride. Karl has consistently been shown as more sympathetic towards the Gemstones, even as a kid. There's also a bit of foreshadowing when they first meet Chuck at the compound and he tells them that God has a plan for each of them: "I know my role. Do you know yours?" At the time it just seems like generic cult militia propaganda stuff, but it might not be.
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quantumfoam posted:I wanna see how Jesse assembled his sycophant team of Matthew/Levi/Gregory/Chad, how Kelvin originally saved Keefe's soul from Satan, and what made Judy fixate on BJ in Interlude 4. You and me both.
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