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spacemang_spliff
Nov 29, 2014

wide pickle

Rectal Death Adept posted:

It was a D&D goon

i've changed my mind lock him up and throw away the key

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Second Hand Meat Mouth
Sep 12, 2001

Nanomashoes posted:

can you post some examples of responses that were baited so I can laugh at them

Lib and let die
Aug 26, 2004

spacemang_spliff posted:

is this devil may cry or final fantasy

=|

>=|

Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:
when the toe cutter gets out of jail he should be unbanned because hes served his debt to society, and the forums

hooman
Oct 11, 2007

This guy seems legit.
Fun Shoe
If this upcoming Biden vs Trump election is so important, why isn't Biden willing to get people to vote for him by cancelling student debt, or doing healthcare, or taxing the rich?

Biden can buy votes pretty easily, if it matters that much open up your wallet Joe.

Lib and let die
Aug 26, 2004

Al! posted:

when the toe cutter gets out of jail he should be unbanned because hes served his debt to society, and the forums

that's right

Judgy Fucker
Mar 24, 2006

ScootsMcSkirt posted:

there's no way you can honestly believe things like "cluster munitions are a warcrime" or "joe biden is a rapist"

youre just trying to make me look bad and being disingenuous

Cluster munitions are a warcrime. But we need them to stop Russia from warcriming. Why don't you want to stop Russia's warcrimes?

ScootsMcSkirt
Oct 29, 2013

Al! posted:

when the toe cutter gets out of jail he should be unbanned because hes served his debt to society, and the forums

how long is he supposed to be locked up?

would be very funny if he got out in time for the election

Second Hand Meat Mouth
Sep 12, 2001

Al! posted:

when the toe cutter gets out of jail he should be unbanned because hes served his debt to society, and the forums

unironically agree

Willa Rogers
Mar 11, 2005

I think we need a cross-forums representative for cspam & dnd to serve as a truth & reconciliation envoy & I volunteer to be that person.

Toph Bei Fong
Feb 29, 2008



The Coming Biden Blowout
By David Frum

quote:

The Republican plan for 2024 is already failing, and the party leadership can see it and knows it.

There was no secret to a more intelligent and intentional Republican plan for 2024. It would have gone like this:

(1) Replace Donald Trump at the head of the ticket with somebody less obnoxious and impulsive.
(2) Capitalize on inflation and other economic troubles.
(3) Offer plausible ideas on drugs, crime, and border enforcement.
(4) Reassure women worried about the post-Roe future.
(5) Don’t be too obvious about suppressing Democratic votes, because really blatant voter suppression will provoke and mobilize Democrats to vote, not discourage them.

Unfortunately for them, Republicans have turned every element of the plan upside down and inside out. Despite lavish anti-Trump donations by big-money Republicans, Trump is cruising to easy renomination. Rather than capitalize on existing economic troubles, Republicans have started a debt-ceiling fight that will cast them as the cause of America’s economic troubles. Worse for them, the troubles are fast receding. Inflation is vexing, but the recession that Republicans hoped for did not materialize: Instead, Joe Biden has presided over the fastest and steepest unemployment reduction in U.S. economic history.
David Frum: Biden laid the trap. Trump walked into it.

The big new Republican idea to halt the flow of drugs is to bomb or invade Mexico. Instead of reassuring women, Republican state legislators and Republican judges are signaling that they will support a national abortion ban if their party wins in 2024—and are already building the apparatus of surveillance and control necessary to make such a ban effective. Republican state-level voter-suppression schemes have been noisy and alarming when the GOP plan called for them to be subtle and technical.

It’s early in the election cycle, of course, but not too early to wonder: Are we watching a Republican electoral disaster in the making?
Biden’s poll numbers are only so-so. But a presidential election offers a stark and binary choice: This or that? Biden may fall short of some voters’ imagined ideal of a president, but in 2024, voters won’t be comparing the Democrat with that ideal. They will be comparing him with the Republican alternative.

An American must be at least 36 years old to have participated in an election in which the Republican candidate for president won the most votes. An American must be at least 52 years old to have participated in two presidential elections in which the Republican nominee got the most votes.

Despite this, over the past 30 years, the GOP has succeeded in leveraging its smaller share of the vote into a larger share of national power. That same 36-year-old American has lived half of his or her adult life under a Republican-controlled Senate, and even more of it under a Republican-majority House of Representatives. Through almost all of that American’s adult life, Republicans have held more than half of all state legislatures. Conservative dominance of the federal courts has become ever more total in the past two decades, culminating in the Supreme Court’s reversal of Roe v. Wade.

Some of the Republicans’ leverage can be explained by the American electoral system’s tilt against metropolitan areas. Some of their success is due to luck. The GOP’s big year of 2010 also happened to be a redistricting year, so one successful election translated into a decade of more comprehensively gerrymandered state legislatures. (Democrats have not had a big win in a redistricting year since 1930.)

But the tilt is not infinite, and the party’s luck is running out. Republicans have suffered a series of heavy defeats since the rise of Trump: loss of the House in 2018, loss of the presidency in 2020, loss of the Senate in 2021, losses at the state level in 2022 (Democrats won net two governorships and net four legislative chambers).

Trump-era Republicans have difficulty absorbing and reacting to negative news. Led by Trump himself, they misrepresented 2016 as—in the words of his former adviser Kellyanne Conway—a blowout, historic landslide. They misrepresented 2020 as an election that they deservedly won, but that was stolen from them by fraud and chicanery. Out-of-office Republicans like Paul Ryan will acknowledge on CNN that Trump lost. But they won’t say it on Fox News. Trump’s own leading party rival, Florida Governor Ron DeSantis, won’t say it. And if Trump is indeed the primary winner that he insists he is, what on earth is the case for denying this political superstar the third nomination he wants?

The Democrats, by contrast, are a party that has trouble absorbing and reacting to good news. Few Democrats predicted that the party would do as well as it did in 2022. Most feel deep dread and anxiety about 2024.

Maybe it’s good to guard against complacency. The American electoral system’s tilt against Democratic-voting regions remains as pronounced as ever. The Senate map is especially unpromising for Democrats. Yet it’s also important to understand that although America is intensely and bitterly polarized, it is not evenly polarized.

The potential strength of the Democratic coalition is greater than that of the Trump coalition. The Democratic disadvantage is that their coalition spans a lot of groups that face extra difficulties casting a ballot: renters, college students, hourly workers, single parents, people who don’t own cars. The American voting system has been engineered to deter and discourage them.

If motivated to turn out, however, those deterred and discouraged blocs can swing elections. In 2018, 36 percent of 18-to-29-year-olds turned out, the highest level recorded. Their votes helped change control of the House. Turnout of this cohort in 2022 finished second only to what it had been in 2018, and those votes altered the political complexion of many state legislatures. The state that had the highest youth turnout in 2022 was Michigan—not so coincidentally, the state where Democrats scored some of their biggest gains, flipping both chambers of the state legislature from red to blue.

Chief among what motivates voters who face obstacles is hope. People will endure and overcome barriers when they feel that their vote can make a difference. If Democrats succeed in communicating hope in 2024 that young people can contribute to a decisive defeat of Trump and MAGA extremism, then that is what they will do.

This cycle, that hope is well founded. Republicans are doing everything wrong. They are talking to their voters about Trump’s personal grievances and about boutique culture-war issues that their own base does not much care about, such as the state of Florida’s “war on Disney.” At the same time, Republican leaders are confronting Democratic voters with extremist threats on issues they care intensely about : bans on abortion medication by mail, restrictions on the freedom of young women to travel across state lines, attacks on student voting rights, proposed big cuts to Medicaid and food stamps in the GOP debt-ceiling ransom demand. Republicans offer no economic message and no affirming vision, even as they make new moves to police women’s bodies and start a land war in Mexico. They are well on their way to earning a deep, nasty defeat—and the smell of that defeat may be an additional draw to the polls for the Democratic-leaning constituencies that will inflict it.

Of all the major-party candidates to run for president since 2000, only one scored worse than Trump in the popular vote: John McCain in 2008. That was not a personal verdict on McCain. He was running for a third Republican term in the throes of the worst economic catastrophe since the Great Depression and against the backdrop of the most grinding military frustration since Vietnam.

Biden’s reelection-announcement video, released yesterday, defines the principal issue at stake in 2024 as “freedom.” From the New Deal to Trump, “freedom” was a Republican slogan; “security” was its Democratic counterpart. But Trump, together with DeSantis, has completely rebranded the GOP as the party of bossing around women, minorities, and young people.

If Trump secures the GOP nomination to run for a second term in 2024, the conditions are all in place to transfer the title of “worst popular-vote loser of the century” from the great Arizona senator to the putsch-plotting ex-president. Trump’s own party is doing its part to deliver this debacle. Soon enough, all Americans will have the opportunity to do theirs.

Crusty Nutsack
Apr 21, 2005

SUCK LASER, COPPERS


Rectal Death Adept posted:

"loving ACTUALLY MURDER PEOPLE"

lmao

Willa Rogers posted:

sounds like we could use a SAD thread to get at the truth instead of these vague grumblings.

afaik they are planning to probate people for "bad faith" in dnd more, and we were asked to let this thread know ahead of time. that's really all there is to it. I think the lobster shirt post about syq was unrelated? but I'm not sure. I told lobster shirt he was mistaken about the syq rule

tristeham
Jul 31, 2022

Bastard Tetris posted:

lmao at people standing up for the proud boy shithead that committed felony mayhem practically everywhere he went for years before getting clapped in the funniest way possible

:sam:

Second Hand Meat Mouth
Sep 12, 2001

ScootsMcSkirt posted:

how long is he supposed to be locked up?

would be very funny if he got out in time for the election

Incarcerated from September 30, 2022, to present. His earned release date is December 3, 2024, which is an estimated earliest and not a set release date.

Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:

it took me a long time but i found out hes actually only serving a 3 year sentence so he should be getting out sometime this or next year, whereas tiny will be in jail for many more, and only got picked up for years of outstanding warrants (even though the cops knew where he was at all times) because he was no longer useful as a street fighter/random trans person attacker

Willa Rogers
Mar 11, 2005

hooman posted:

If this upcoming Biden vs Trump election is so important, why isn't Biden willing to get people to vote for him by cancelling student debt, or doing healthcare, or taxing the rich?

Biden can buy votes pretty easily, if it matters that much open up your wallet Joe.

bc the votes that matter have bought him so he doesn't need to do poo poo.

ScootsMcSkirt
Oct 29, 2013

Willa Rogers posted:

I think we need a cross-forums representative for cspam & dnd to serve as a truth & reconciliation envoy & I volunteer to be that person.

i think your account is about to get nuked, if im understanding crusty's warning correctly

you cant help yourself from baiting those poor innocent DnDers

Lib and let die
Aug 26, 2004

Willa Rogers posted:

I think we need a cross-forums representative for cspam & dnd to serve as a truth & reconciliation envoy & I volunteer to be that person.

as the foremost delegate of paisano posters, willa has my full and heartfelt support in this endeavor.

Second Hand Meat Mouth
Sep 12, 2001

Second Hand Meat Mouth posted:

Incarcerated from September 30, 2022, to present. His earned release date is December 3, 2024, which is an estimated earliest and not a set release date.

that's from the DOC back in October, I requested as much info as I could but it was basically just that

Second Hand Meat Mouth
Sep 12, 2001

ScootsMcSkirt posted:

i think your account is about to get nuked, if im understanding crusty's warning correctly

you cant help yourself from baiting those poor innocent DnDers

lol it's this you're right

Second Hand Meat Mouth
Sep 12, 2001
preemptive free willa

Wraith of J.O.I.
Jan 25, 2012


Gumball Gumption posted:

The d&d posters who think they're being gang stalked by CSPAM are projecting and are some of the most drama obsessed losers on this site who will try to check what posting crew you're in the second you disagree with them and the mods need to stop getting suckered by them.

talkin D&D paranoid blues

quote:

Well, I was feelin' sad and kind of blue,
I didn't know what I was gonna do,
The Communists were comin' around,
They were in the air,
They were on the ground.
They were all over.

So I ran down most hurriedly
And joined the D&D Society,
I got me a secret membership card
went back to my back yard,
Started lookin' on the sidewalk,
'neath the rose bush.

I wus lookin' everywhere for them gol-darned Reds,
I got up in the mornin' looked under my bed,
Looked behind the kitchen, behind the door,
even tore loose the kitchen floor,
Couldn't find any . . .

I looked beneath the sofa, beneath the chair
lookin' for them reds everywhere
I looked way up my chimney hole,
even deep down inside my toilet bowl,
They got away . . .

I heard some foot-steps by the front porch door,
so I grabbed my shot-gun from the floor.
Snuck around the house with a huff and a hiss,
saying "Hands up, you communist!"
It was the mailman.
He punched me out.

Well, I quit my job so I could work alone,
got a magnifying glass like Sherlock Holmes.
Following some clues from my detective bag
I discovered there was red stripes on the American flag!
Did you know about Betsy Ross . . .?

Well, I was sittin' home alone an' I started to sweat,
I figured they wus in my television set.
I peeked behind the picture frame,
Got a shock from my feet that hit my brain.
Them Reds did it!
The ones on Hootenanny!

Well, I fin'ly started thinkin' straight
When I run outa things to investigate.
I couldn't imagine doing anyhing else,
So now I'm home investigatin' myself!
Hope I don't find out too much . . . Good God!

Willa Rogers
Mar 11, 2005

Crusty Nutsack posted:

lmao

afaik they are planning to probate people for "bad faith" in dnd more, and we were asked to let this thread know ahead of time. that's really all there is to it. I think the lobster shirt post about syq was unrelated? but I'm not sure. I told lobster shirt he was mistaken about the syq rule

lol, ofc, it's the eye-of-the-beholder rule that can be used to punish anyone; makes perfect sense for purges.

HallelujahLee
May 3, 2009

How dare you bait me into revealing my atrocious beliefs

ScootsMcSkirt
Oct 29, 2013

Second Hand Meat Mouth posted:

Incarcerated from September 30, 2022, to present. His earned release date is December 3, 2024, which is an estimated earliest and not a set release date.

requesting an early release for my man

Second Hand Meat Mouth
Sep 12, 2001

Willa Rogers posted:

lol, ofc, it's the eye-of-the-beholder rule that can be used to punish anyone; makes perfect sense for purges.

democrats ftw

Lib and let die
Aug 26, 2004

HallelujahLee posted:

How dare you bait me into revealing my atrocious beliefs

after repeatedly saying that atrocious beliefs should be brought to light specifically to examine and dismantle them as a guiding principle of said subforum

:sam:

hooman
Oct 11, 2007

This guy seems legit.
Fun Shoe

Willa Rogers posted:

bc the votes that matter have bought him so he doesn't need to do poo poo.

Truth.

Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:

ScootsMcSkirt posted:

requesting an early release for my man

hope he comes out jacked and ready to rip off more toes with his barehand

Willa Rogers
Mar 11, 2005

ScootsMcSkirt posted:

i think your account is about to get nuked, if im understanding crusty's warning correctly

you cant help yourself from baiting those poor innocent DnDers

that can't possibly be true; a dnd mod told me that in spite of "people reporting the poo poo out of" me that I wasn't breaking any rules.

eta: oh wait: that'd be solved by the bad-faith thing, lol.

HallelujahLee
May 3, 2009

Lib and let die posted:

after repeatedly saying that atrocious beliefs should be brought to light specifically to examine and dismantle them as a guiding principle of said subforum

:sam:

Second Hand Meat Mouth
Sep 12, 2001
koos is just seething about the calm hitler avatar but doesn't want anyone to know

Lib and let die
Aug 26, 2004

Willa Rogers posted:

that can't possibly be true; a dnd mod told me that in spite of "people reporting the poo poo out of" me that I wasn't breaking any rules.

ah yes, among the ranks of trustworthy figures like LT2012, CZS, and the post-editing horse admin

Judgy Fucker
Mar 24, 2006

Willa Rogers posted:

I think we need a cross-forums representative for cspam & dnd to serve as a truth & reconciliation envoy & I volunteer to be that person.

Earnestly, wasn't Majorian and the_steve supposed to be these, and they both got chased out of DnD?

Toph Bei Fong
Feb 29, 2008



Wraith of J.O.I. posted:

talkin D&D paranoid blues

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZCxA2gw6uo

spacemang_spliff
Nov 29, 2014

wide pickle

Judgy Fucker posted:

Cluster munitions are a warcrime. But we need them to stop Russia from warcriming. Why don't you want to stop Russia's warcrimes?

they're not a warcrime becuase the US never signed on to saying they're a warcrime but i guess that also means its not a warcrime for russia to do it

Zedhe Khoja
Nov 10, 2017

sürgünden selamlar
yıkıcılar ulusuna

Gumball Gumption posted:

The d&d posters who think they're being gang stalked by CSPAM are projecting and are some of the most drama obsessed losers on this site who will try to check what posting crew you're in the second you disagree with them and the mods need to stop getting suckered by them.

a reminder that dnd has an actual discord not a goatse link and like 90% of the posting the last time i looked was HAU and co obsessing over cspam "doomers"

spacemang_spliff
Nov 29, 2014

wide pickle

what isn't it it looks like final fantasy to me

spacemang_spliff
Nov 29, 2014

wide pickle
ok doomer

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Uncle Wemus
Mar 4, 2004


Healthcare plz

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