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I know there are people who love to hate on John Cena but that man is a saint for what he's done for Make a Wish kids. I thought it was funny that Matt Cardona (Zach Ryder) was a Make a Wish kid. Not because he was ill but because he grew up to be a wrestler.
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SirPhoebos posted:Well you do now, THE DIMINISHING RETURNS OF THE ULTIMATE WARRIOR: PART 1 James Hellwig was a bodybuilder who was lured into the interesting world of professional wrestling. In his initial few years, he competed various promotions with different names like Jim Justice, Blade Runner Rock, and the Dingo Warrior. Initially a tag team wrestler, his bodybuilding bro and tag partner was Flash/Blade Runner Sting. They were Road Warrior knockoffs and Hellwig’s partner would eventually go on to find his own career as just Sting. They both stuck with the face paint, though. In these early days, it was apparent that this guy had an interesting promo style. When a heel manager told him that Rick Rude said Dingo Warrior was a sissy, Warrior screamed, “RICK RUDE DOESN’T EVEN KNOW MY NAME!” before explaining that he was going to tear Rude’s arm off, shove it down Rude’s throat, make Rude puke, then make Rude write “DINGO” out in the puke 500 times. Holy poo poo. The Dingo Warrior got signed to WWF in 1987, where Vince McMahon eventually decided to have him drop the “Dingo” part of his name, as he didn’t know what the gently caress that was supposed to mean. Warrior made his first TV appearance in late 1987 on Wrestling Challenge, where he squashed jobber Terry Gibbs. He was a lot less frantic on his way to the ring and when wrestling as he’d be known for, but the character was there. Gorilla Monsoon and Bobby Heenan put over how jacked he was, how offbeat he was, and they showed a picture-in-picture promo of him intensely rambling about the Power of the Warrior. Warrior took part in the original (well, first televised) Royal Rumble. The Royal Rumble would be better figured out a year later, as the initially 20-man match was really kind of boring. You’d think Warrior showing up in this kind of match would be exciting, but he ran in, aimlessly brawled and grappled for a few minutes, then got dumped out. His first major feud was against Hercules Hernandez, the perfect “first boss in a beat’em up” heel. They wrestled on the WrestleMania IV undercard, overshadowed by the event’s gigantic 14-man tournament to crown a new champion. Warrior won the match and moved on. At the time, Hercules was managed by Bobby Heenan and this started a very lengthy feud between Warrior and Heenan. Over the summer of 1988, the two regularly had house show matches where the winner got to put the loser in a weasel costume. Sadly, we never got to see the Ultimate Weasel. Going into that year’s SummerSlam, one of the big matches was supposed to be the Honky Tonk Man defending the Intercontinental Championship against Brutus Beefcake. Unfortunately, this was when Beefcake got in his absolutely horrifying parasailing accident that turned his face into aquarium gravel. Honky Tonk Man, who had been IC champ for well over a year (still the record), decided to call out an open challenge, since Beefcake couldn’t make it. Warrior raced to the ring and absolutely destroyed Honky Tonk Man in seconds, abruptly becoming the new IC champ. The company was definitely behind Warrior. Granted, he had suffered a few losses, but they were all house show matches. He was never defeated on TV or on PPV, outside of battle royals. Now that he held a title, he was really gaining steam. This bothered Hulk Hogan, as Warrior’s persona was essentially a neon remix of Hogan. He was a coked-up muscle man who spoke gibberish and had the tendency of simply deciding to become invincible in the match’s final moments so he could hit his finishers and win. He tried suggesting to Warrior that he try a different direction, but he was rightfully ignored. Warrior’s next feud was with “Ravishing” Rick Rude, also managed by Heenan. At the 1989 Royal Rumble, the two had a “super posedown,” which was really weird. It was supposed to be a bodybuilding contest with Rude doing the real poses and Warrior just flexing like Animal from the Muppets in a muscle suit. Of course, the crowd sided with the good guy and Rude went all Frank Grimes by beating the poo poo out of Warrior. This led to a match at WrestleMania V where Rude beat Warrior thanks to Heenan’s interference. The real story was in the post-match. Warrior got his hands on Heenan and destroyed him. He was absolutely too stiff with him and genuinely hosed him up, especially his already bad neck. The idea was that Heenan was supposed to have a match with the Red Rooster immediately after, where Rooster would easily be able to win (as if he couldn’t already). The match itself, while short, is incredibly hard to watch because you can see that Heenan is in total agony and can barely move at all. Warrior would get his win and title back from Rude at SummerSlam 1989. Then it was time for the main course as Warrior started feuding with Heenan’s most powerful client: Andre the Giant. On paper, Warrior vs. Andre seemed too good to be true. It felt like a literal version of the irresistible force meeting the immovable object. In reality, it was a barely-mobile giant in his final singles feud against a guy who got tired quick because he was a musclehead with no cardio who zipped to the ring as fast as humanly possible. They wrestled the house show circuit and many their matches were incredibly short. Like, 30 seconds long. They did have a handful of matches that lasted about 8 minutes or so, like at MSG or on Saturday Night’s Main Event. It was actually a miracle the two could pull that off, especially the SNME one, which isn’t that bad. The feud had a perfect ending. At Survivor Series 1988, the main event was the Ultimate Warrior, the Rockers, and Jim Neidhart vs. Andre, Arn Anderson, Haku, and Bobby Heenan. With the other three faces in the ring, Andre was able to overpower them all by himself. Then Warrior raced to the ring and nailed a couple running clotheslines, with the last one knocking Andre out of the ring. Andre acted knocked out, got counted out, then came to and was told to leave midway into the match. Not only did Warrior win the match, but he once again got to annihilate Heenan. For the time, this was the finale to their rivalry. There was a funny story told by Heenan in one of the Warrior documentaries. All these endless house show matches involved Warrior running into Andre as fast as possible and hitting him a bit too hard. Enough to really annoy Andre. Finally, one day, Andre put his fist up as Warrior ran full force. In the matches that followed, Warrior was a lot safer on his running clotheslines. While all of this was going on, Hulk Hogan was WWF Champion, though he was stuck in a storyline that did not focus on his title whatsoever. He was dealing with a ridiculous, inexplicable feud that Vince planned to stretch all the way to WrestleMania. And thank God he had the Ultimate Warrior as the backup plan, because Vince’s initial idea for the WrestleMania VI main event was a whole lot worse.
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Deki posted:Yeah, Cena has never been my cup of tea but he's done a lot of good ans as far as I know, his over-exposure wasn't due to hogan-esque politicking, so I have no issues with him as a person. Basically being a kids' show host and sticking to the brand is probably respectable both from a personal and business standpoint especially against the insane backdrop of WWE.
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Gavok posted:THE DIMINISHING RETURNS OF THE ULTIMATE WARRIOR: PART 1 I read somewhere that one of the reasons Warrior failed, among a long list of them, was that while Hogan did sometimes babble nonsense (his Wrestlemania IV promo comes to mind), he had a basic, understandable core: say your prayers, take your vitamins, etc. Warrior never had a core, he would just keep finding new nonsense that MIGHT sort of dovetail into a belief of a higher concept of himself and his fans in some sort of weird collective unconsciousness, but as said, it had no base. It was all just CRAZY COKE RAMBLES, a different one every time. In wrestling, you do need some repetition mixed in with the creativity.
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Cornwind Evil posted:I read somewhere that one of the reasons Warrior failed, among a long list of them, was that while Hogan did sometimes babble nonsense (his Wrestlemania IV promo comes to mind), he had a basic, understandable core: say your prayers, take your vitamins, etc. Warrior never had a core, he would just keep finding new nonsense that MIGHT sort of dovetail into a belief of a higher concept of himself and his fans in some sort of weird collective unconsciousness, but as said, it had no base. It was all just CRAZY COKE RAMBLES, a different one every time. In wrestling, you do need some repetition mixed in with the creativity. warrior also couldnt wrestle you can say a lot about hogan but hogan could put on a good match warrior would wind himself running to the ring and wrestlers didnt want to do long matches with him because warrior would botch moves and seriously injure them so almost all warrior matches were 30 second squash matches that got boring quickly 16-bit Butt-Head fucked around with this message at 07:46 on Jul 13, 2023 |
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warrior did have a catchphrase of sorts, where he snorted like a pig
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He eventually went with “Same Warrior time, same Warrior place, same Warrior…CHANNEL”
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In his comic warrior had a multiple long page rant about his artist being lazy and entitled because he needed to take some time off for chemotherapy. That's destrucity
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Isn't there a story somewhere about Cornette, Vince and (maybe) Heenan detouring a plane to go to Warrior's house and have dinner or something and Warrior just starts ranting about destrucity the whole time?
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Does Vince just like do the Vince faces when he sees big men doing cocaine rants
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ncumbered_by_idgits posted:Isn't there a story somewhere about Cornette, Vince and (maybe) Heenan detouring a plane to go to Warrior's house and have dinner or something and Warrior just starts ranting about destrucity the whole time? lol JR asking what the gently caress is destrucity and vince telling him to forget about it
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And now for a big tangent. THE DIMINISHING RETURNS OF THE ULTIMATE WARRIOR: PART 2 As I get closer to the Ultimate Warrior's WWF Championship reign, I'm going to do something completely on-brand for it by ignoring Hellwig so I can focus on Hulk Hogan. Through the 80s into the 90s, Hogan has had something of a bizarre film career. He's had some fun cameos in movies like Gremlins 2, Muppets From Space, Spy Hard, and of course Rocky III, but when it came to movies starring him... yeah, not so good. I mean, I'm a firm believer that Suburban Commando loving slaps. It's a genuinely enjoyable family comedy adventure and I want to watch it right now, but his other movies were garbage. No Holds Barred, on the other hand, was enjoyable garbage. It's one of those perfect bad movies and I'm sour to this day that RiffTrax hasn't touched it yet. It's a movie where Terry Bollea plays Rip Thomas, who is just Hogan with a different color scheme and taunt. If you haven't seen this movie, it's about an evil Vince-like businessman named Tom Brell (Kurt Fuller) who insists Rip work for him to the point of kidnapping, which does not work out and Rip ends up making a henchman poop his pants. Brell tries to get revenge by creating a cinematic prototype to ECW, where his champion is an invincible monster of a man named Zeus (Tiny Lister). Zeus goads Rip into a high-profile match, Rip wins, and Brell is electrocuted to death. The end. OR WAS IT? The movie came out in early June 1989. In WWF, Hogan was fresh off regaining the WWF Championship from his best-friend-turned-bitter-enemy Randy Savage at WrestleMania V. Days before the movie's release, Hogan was defending the title against the Big Boss Man in a steel cage on Saturday Night's Main Event. That's when Zeus walked out to taunt him. Not actor Tiny Lister, but Zeus the literal movie character. The narrative was that Zeus had played himself in the movie and was angry that he was written to lose. But this wasn't a movie, Hogan! This was real life! Meanwhile, the character Tom Brell showed up on WWF TV at least once, also putting into question the relationship between film and reality. Randy Savage liked Zeus' style and created an alliance. Savage, his manager Sherri Martel, and Zeus were quite the package when it came to promos. They were the most unhinged poo poo you'd ever hear with Savage somehow sounding the most grounded of the three. To promote this movie, which had already bombed horribly mind you, the main event of SummerSlam 1989 was Hogan and Brutus Beefcake vs. Savage and Zeus. Thank God, as Zeus was not actually a trained wrestler. He was just a massive actor who looked like a wrestler. He needed the other three (Beefcake especially) to carry him through the match and make up for his shortcomings. The final product was passable and ended with Hogan stealing Sherri's loaded purse and using it to knock out Zeus for the pin. Hogan beat Zeus, but through cheating. Justified cheating, but still cheating. The idea was to keep the feud going. Yes, the movie had long left theaters, but eventually it was going to be available to watch on PPV. Then it was going to be on VHS. There was still money to be made and in Vince's mind, the endgame was simple: Hulk Hogan vs. Zeus for the WWF Championship at WrestleMania VI! But that was months and months down the line. The next PPV would be Survivor Series 1989. Hogan would lead the Hulkamaniacs (Jake Roberts, Ax, and Smash) against the Million Dollar Team (Ted Dibiase, Zeus, Warlord, and the Barbarian). Within the opening minutes, Zeus was disqualified for strangling Hogan and refusing to let go. Regardless, Hogan went on to be his team's sole survivor. Later in the show, Savage and Zeus jumped Hogan and Beefcake in the locker room. This was to hype up their next match, which had a rather intriguing setup. During some TV tapings, they had a two-on-two cage match. The idea was that said match was only viewable if you ordered No Holds Barred on PPV or later bought the VHS. The package was referred to as No Holds Barred: The Movie, the Match and the cage match would begin after the closing credits finished up. The match itself, while not especially long, is a lot of fun. Beefcake and Savage both escaped the cage, leaving Hogan vs. Zeus. There, Hogan was able to overpower Zeus and pin him after three leg drops. Hogan got his decisive win and the story was finally over. Vince had finally come to his senses and decided to nix the WrestleMania match. Zeus was done with the company. Not that he was entirely done with wrestling, though. Zeus would show up in Puerto Rico to have his first and only singles match against death match legend Abdullah the Butcher. It was ATROCIOUS and laughably tedious, ending in a double count-out. He would show up a few years later in WCW as Z-Gangsta, joining the Alliance to End Hulkamania and taking part in the infamous Doomsday Cage Match. He ended his career with a record of 0-5. At least he got elected president in the future that one time and also thwarted the Joker. So with Zeus gone, what did that mean for Hogan's big WrestleMania match? He was still champion and needed a worthy opponent. Hogan vs. Savage had long run its course. Not only had Hogan vs. Andre run its course, but Andre was so broken down that he could barely hold together to do a tag match. The big new heel was Earthquake, but there wasn't enough time to build him up. Maybe they could have done something with Bad News Brown, who had become little more than a well-protected midcard act. If WrestleMania VI was going to be special, it needed a huge match. Perhaps it was finally time to do a face vs. face title match.
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The Ultimate Warrior's theme music always seemed like the most perfect 1980s hair metal type theme song.
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warriors comic rules because almost every issue opens with a long rant about money and readers not understanding the simplicity of destrucity and its all illegible because the text is blending into the background
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16-bit Butt-Head posted:kevin nash told a story on his podcast how they wanted him to only spend 15 minutes with a make a wish kid because of scheduling and he told them to gently caress off he was her wish and he was going to stay with her as long as she wanted he stuck up for the people in that infamous kevin nash fanclub picture too, I think
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16-bit Butt-Head posted:warriors comic rules because almost every issue opens with a long rant about money and readers not understanding the simplicity of destrucity and its all illegible because the text is blending into the background He also did a holiday issue with no dialogue but he did put Santa in bondage gear and tie him to a cross before stealing his clothing.
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Tokyo Sexwale posted:he stuck up for the people in that infamous kevin nash fanclub picture too, I think nash is a cool guy that just happens to really love making money with minimal effort Pope Corky the IX posted:He also did a holiday issue with no dialogue but he did put Santa in bondage gear and tie him to a cross before stealing his clothing. lol every single page in that issue was drawn by a different artist because warrior was refusing to pay them 16-bit Butt-Head fucked around with this message at 17:08 on Jul 13, 2023 |
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He even reused art from the guy he fired for taking time off due to his chemo treatments.
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papa shango cursing warrior caused me psychic damage that still lasts to this day
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16-bit Butt-Head posted:kevin nash told a story on his podcast how they wanted him to only spend 15 minutes with a make a wish kid because of scheduling and he told them to gently caress off he was her wish and he was going to stay with her as long as she wanted Oh that’s good. Which other wrestlers besides Cena & Foley have reputations for being good to fans when they don’t have to be?
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I never thought much about Cena at all other than assuming on a personal level he was a decent human between his Make A Wish work and a vid or so promoting equality that I've seen. It's the Peacemaker show that I'm a bit of a fan for him over.
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Hyrax Attack! posted:Oh that’s good. Which other wrestlers besides Cena & Foley have reputations for being good to fans when they don’t have to be? I think most of them, these days. The times you hear about a current wrestler blowing off a fan usually turn out to have the fan be totally in the wrong, like ambushing a wrestler at an airport with 500 things to sign or won't leave them alone during dinner.
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16-bit Butt-Head posted:nash is a cool guy that just happens to really love making money with minimal effort nash whipped rear end in detroiters lol https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzjvRrQajMY
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THE DIMINISHING RETURNS OF THE ULTIMATE WARRIOR: PART 3 After overcoming Andre the Giant and finishing his business with the Heenan Family, the Intercontinental Champion Ultimate Warrior moved on to... ugh... Dino Bravo. While not the worst worker of the time, Dino Bravo was maybe the most boring wrestler in an era of unforgettable characters. His whole deal was that he was a Canadian strongman, but his strength never really integrated itself well into his wrestling and he really just looked like a giant baby wearing a toupee. He was not the most compelling choice to be the Warrior’s new rival. Their short-lived rivalry did have one memorable and important moment. They decided to have a test of strength where they would each see how many push-ups they could do with somebody sitting on their back. Dino chose a very large, bearded man from the audience. This man turned out to be his good friend the Canadian Earthquake, who used the opportunity to crush the Warrior during his attempts at push-ups and leave him in a heap. Hell of a debut. Maybe WrestleMania VI would have had Warrior vs. Earthquake. Maybe it was just going to be a title defense against Dino while building towards the eventual Earthquake match. But plans changed and Vince decided it was time to truly get behind Warrior. It took several years for the Royal Rumble to truly mean anything. In 1990, it was still nothing more than a fun novelty of a match where the winner merely got bragging rights. Hell, Hogan was entered in it and he was WWF Champion! That year’s Rumble is one of my all-time favorites, in my top 5 or maybe even top 3. Fantastic pacing and a wonderful roster from start to finish. Warrior came in at #21. When Hogan came in at #25, poo poo started getting chaotic. Warrior and Hogan started to gradually whittle down the ring. Then Shawn Michaels came in at #26 and got thrown out immediately. Seconds later, Warrior threw out Rick Martel and everyone in the arena, all of the sudden, realized that only Hogan and Warrior were left and the audience lost their poo poo in excitement. It was an era where good vs. evil was so solidified that the very idea of having two faces hash it out was nearly unheard of. But these two invincible superheroes HAD to fight. It was every man for himself, and these were the only two men in the ring. The two only clashed for about a minute, but it was hype as gently caress. They slammed into each other a few times before knocking each other out with a double clothesline. Then the Barbarian entered, followed shortly by Rick Rude who didn’t even wait for the countdown, and it was no longer just one-on-one. Hogan accidentally-but-maybe-not eliminated Warrior and ended up winning the whole thing. It was really rad other than the fact that Mr. Perfect was originally penciled in to win until Hogan vetoed it. Hogan vs. Warrior was announced for WrestleMania with a “Winner Take All” gimmick. The build was rather nonexistent. There were situations where each rescued the other from Earthquake, only for the rescued one to take issue with it, but other than a contract signing where they cut angry promos at each other, that was about it. The best part of that was Warrior going into one of his batshit rants and Hogan’s response was just, “Sign.” Like he was just loving done with dealing with this lunatic's nonsense. Most famous was the Warrior doing a promo where he told “Ho Ko-gan” that he would commit acts of terrorism by hijacking the plane to WrestleMania and crashing it into Parts Unknown. Snarl. The WrestleMania VI undercard was mostly garbage outside of a sweet Jake Roberts vs. Ted Dibiase match. This whole event was being carried by Hogan vs. Warrior and, by God, they absolutely delivered. The match was awesome by playing it up like the wrestling version of Superman and Shazam punching the poo poo out of each other. It was two powerhouses in a near-mirror match, dealing out the same amount of damage. In the end, Warrior rolled out of the way from a legdrop and countered with a running splash to get the pin. Hogan, unfortunately, could not really help himself. He kicked out at 3.01 and went over-the-top in acting like he had been wronged. He would later claim that although he graciously admitted defeat and handed Warrior the title, everyone was more focused on him leaving to the back than Warrior celebrating in the ring. Kayfabe WWF President Jack Tunney insisted that there would not be a rematch due to fear of what would be left of the two wrestlers. It was also decided that while Warrior could be WWF Champion, he had to give up the Intercontinental Championship. The Warrior would hold the WWF Championship for a respectable amount of time. Time would call his championship run a failure as business took a bit of a downturn and it pissed Vince off that he did what the fans wanted and this is how he was repaid. Hogan would use this as political ammo to get the title back on him down the line. Thing is, Warrior never had a chance. His booking during the title run cut him off at the legs. While Hogan was having a compelling feud with Earthquake, Warrior had no viable challengers. They had to have Rick Rude – who had recently lost a feud to Warrior – step up because he was the one guy to have a televised win over him at one point. Granted, the two had great chemistry together and the steel cage main event at SummerSlam 1990 was pretty good, but Warrior felt secondary to what Hogan was doing. The other main storyline for Warrior as champion was having him as the sixth wheel in a feud between the Legion of Doom/Road Warriors and Demolition. Demolition (which had recently introduced third member Crush) was always blatant ripoff of the Road Warriors, so when the actual Road Warriors appeared, the feud wrote itself. The six-man tag matches were a regular part of the house show circuit and it wasn’t meshing right. LOD vs. Demolition seemed like an easy choice for WrestleMania VII, but they nixed it due to the bad chemistry. This feud did lead to Survivor Series 1990, which was an incredibly unique show. While remembered for the first appearance of the Undertaker and the disaster of the Gobbledygooker, this was also the one Survivor Series that was treated as a tournament. The idea was that the surviving faces would team up in the main event against the surviving heels in the Grand Finale Match for Survival. Warrior led LOD and “Texas Tornado” Kerry Von Erich against Mr. Perfect and Demolition. Warrior was the sole survivor and later joined Hogan and Tito Santana against Ted Dibiase, Rick Martel, Warlord, Hercules, and Paul Roma. This led to one of my favorite Warrior promo moments where he hyped up his team. He mentioned Hulkamania. He mentioned “Warrior Wildness,” which was apparently a thing in his mind. More importantly, he referred to Tito’s fanbase as, and I’m laughing while typing this, “Ariba Derci.” What the gently caress, Warrior? What the absolute gently caress? Anyway, Warrior and Hogan were the winners and the PPV ended with the two former opponents posing in the ring together. It was neat. While it was too little, too late, they did build up two interesting challengers for Warrior’s title. First was “Macho King” Randy Savage, who was openly very interested in taking on Warrior and had antagonized him a few times. Then there was Sargent Slaughter. The former GI Joe came back to WWF as a heel. When he returned, it seemed like the US was going to be staying away from the Persian Gulf situation, so Slaughter was playing himself up as a fascist war hawk who claimed this country was soft and didn’t have the guts to go to war. Then the US went to war after all, so they had to go to extreme lengths to make Slaughter’s heel run work by making him an Iraqi sympathizer. Warrior would face Slaughter at Royal Rumble 1991. Earlier in the show, Sherri Martel tried to seduce Warrior into giving Savage a title shot, but he just started shaking ridiculously and screamed, “NoOoOoOoOoOoOoOOOO!!!” in her face. In return, Savage showed up during the title match and shattered a scepter over Warrior’s head, allowing Slaughter to get the pin and become the new champion. Savage was supposed to be in the Royal Rumble match, but no-showed, supposedly chased off by Warrior. Nearly 30 years later, a WWE comic would depict these events where an angry Warrior chased him on to a Denny’s and they got in a food fight. Oh, and Hogan won the Rumble match and dedicated it to the troops. Slaughter’s challenger was immediately obvious. Savage was going to get the Warrior match he wanted, but at a great price. It was decided that there was not enough room in this promotion for the two of them. Somebody had to go.
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Hyrax Attack! posted:Oh that’s good. Which other wrestlers besides Cena & Foley have reputations for being good to fans when they don’t have to be? big van Vader was apparently really nice brodie lee dying devastated the industry because he was basically a saint
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16-bit Butt-Head posted:warrior also couldnt wrestle you can say a lot about hogan but hogan could put on a good match warrior would wind himself running to the ring and wrestlers didnt want to do long matches with him because warrior would botch moves and seriously injure them so almost all warrior matches were 30 second squash matches that got boring quickly Oh yeah wasn’t that why he squashed Honky Tonk Man so fast, as he feared injury if forced to be in the ring more than a few seconds with Warrior?
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GolfHole posted:papa shango cursing warrior caused me psychic damage that still lasts to this day This and Jake the Snake making his snake bite Macho Man.
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Hyrax Attack! posted:Oh yeah wasn’t that why he squashed Honky Tonk Man so fast, as he feared injury if forced to be in the ring more than a few seconds with Warrior? A squash also made sense from a storyline perspective: the cowardly heel who had been retaining his title due to count ours and DQs finally gets his comeuppance.
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IZWF wrapped up recently which was sad for many But in the Enclosed Pool Area (the wrestling fyadlite), a new federation has opened up, SAW - Something Awful Wrestling This is open to anyone on the SA forums unless you're a sex criminal. https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=4036635 The concept is subforum on subforum war, so if you're a GBS guy, a PSP guy, or whatever, we want you in! Nobody will be turned away with a very few exceptions
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Hyrax Attack! posted:Oh yeah wasn’t that why he squashed Honky Tonk Man so fast, as he feared injury if forced to be in the ring more than a few seconds with Warrior? it was a combination of this and because it made sense for the hot new babyface to squash the cowardly chicken poo poo heel that had been avoiding dropping the belt by cheating
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When Earthquake took out Hogan so Hulk could leave tv for a bit was a huge memory of mine. I remember all the updates on the devastating injuries Hulk had and where you could write him your best wishes. It was hokey as hell, but at the time it was played perfectly.
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TheSwizzler posted:IZWF wrapped up recently which was sad for many 
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Hulk Hogan’s best friend Tugboat would ask kids to write get well soon letters and send them to him with his fat arms.
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FilthyImp posted:Wait why'd IZWF finish? TLD got busy with work, burnout, etc We have the SAW now though which doesn't have the same baggage as someone imposing on the Imp Zone, you can rep your subforum without judgement
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Gavok posted:Wrestlemania VI happens. And from at least once source, that was also the end of Jim Hellwig the man. It's been suggested, and mentioned by myself, that when he got into the business, Hellwig was actually a somewhat quiet, shy person by nature, so he worked around that by throwing himself into the most bombastic, over the top character he could come up with. But, as I keep saying, be careful who you pretend to be, because you are who you pretend to be, and since wrestlers are expected to live their gimmick in a way other actors are not, Warrior's ex-wife basically said "My husband, Jim Hellwig, left for Wrestlemania VI. And Warrior came back, and I never saw my husband again." And I'd buy it, especially if you believe that Warrior seemed very keen to make amends with everyone for the immediate days before his death, like the Warrior had finally died and only Jim was left.
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Cornwind Evil posted:And from at least once source, that was also the end of Jim Hellwig the man. It's been suggested, and mentioned by myself, that when he got into the business, Hellwig was actually a somewhat quiet, shy person by nature, so he worked around that by throwing himself into the most bombastic, over the top character he could come up with. But, as I keep saying, be careful who you pretend to be, because you are who you pretend to be, and since wrestlers are expected to live their gimmick in a way other actors are not, Warrior's ex-wife basically said "My husband, Jim Hellwig, left for Wrestlemania VI. And Warrior came back, and I never saw my husband again." And I'd buy it, especially if you believe that Warrior seemed very keen to make amends with everyone for the immediate days before his death, like the Warrior had finally died and only Jim was left. I believe it. Something I've noticed in wrestling is that few things mess you up like being the face champ for an extended amount of time when business isn't great. Shawn Michaels wasn't the nicest guy to start with, but he and Bret will both admit that it was his initial title reign that really drove him over the edge. You've hit this major goal, followed immediately by having to maintain that level of effort as all eyes are on you and you have the company on your back. And as you work your rear end off, you are told that you aren't good enough and that your dream is a failure. Then you get paranoid and bitter whenever somebody is brought up as a potential next champ because if you hold onto the belt longer, there's a chance you can turn this around, but if you don't, it's over and they may never put you in this position ever again. I recall being in that position nearly broke Eddie Guerrero and I'm sure it didn't help Benoit's psyche.
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