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Dandywalken posted:Eh its tbh probably less of an issue than what Ukraine is facing with heavier ordnance It's mostly from NATO countries, so even if the weapon systems themselves are wild and varied, I expect the ammunition to be fairly standardized? (Spare parts will be fun, though)
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# ? Jul 13, 2023 15:43 |
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Tai posted:LOL I feel like someone should be driving through Russian camps offering a gun buyback program. These belong in museums, it's almost tragic that they're going to get blown up
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# ? Jul 13, 2023 15:52 |
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So according to some speculation, others are coming to the conclusion that Prigozhin is probably dead too: https://metro.co.uk/2023/07/13/wagn...ts-trending-now I obviously have no idea, but I do think he would have been seen in public if he were free and alive.
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# ? Jul 13, 2023 16:01 |
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Apparently Wagner columb was seen going from Rostov to Belarus. Unconfirmed at this time
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# ? Jul 13, 2023 16:08 |
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Computer viking posted:It's mostly from NATO countries, so even if the weapon systems themselves are wild and varied, I expect the ammunition to be fairly standardized? (Spare parts will be fun, though) What are the odds they were from museums and deactivated by chopping up the bolts/firing pins?
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# ? Jul 13, 2023 16:09 |
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This ammo gun this is really prolly entertaining Imagine ordering artillery ammo and receiving like 7.62x54 instead
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# ? Jul 13, 2023 16:09 |
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Oldsmobile posted:So according to some speculation, others are coming to the conclusion that Prigozhin is probably dead too: https://metro.co.uk/2023/07/13/wagn...ts-trending-now I mean fairly obviously. Did pissgoblin really think he could trust putins word?
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# ? Jul 13, 2023 16:10 |
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Oldsmobile posted:So according to some speculation, others are coming to the conclusion that Prigozhin is probably dead too: https://metro.co.uk/2023/07/13/wagn...ts-trending-now Maybe, but Metro, like most British tabloids, is not the most reliable source for, well, anything, but particularly international news. e: Looks like the original source for the core of the story was this interview with a retired US general on ABC News: https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/retired-us-general-questions-alleged-putin-prigozhin-meeting/story?id=101086248 Which sounds kind of speculative, but maybe. Sir John Falstaff fucked around with this message at 16:20 on Jul 13, 2023 |
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Futanari Damacy posted:There are no words to describe the criminality of Ukraine's leadership in creating a situation where the country can have no future by taking on such ruinous debt. This troll's getting some mileage out of a 2 sentence post! It was not Ukraine that marched on Moscow in a day. It was not NATO that marched on Moscow in a day. It was not Finland that marched on Moscow in a day. The state's very existence is in peril, and the greatest threat is coming from within.
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# ? Jul 13, 2023 16:12 |
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Tai posted:LOL You'd think Russia had millions of those heavy wooden stock AKMs somewhere; wheeling out small trunks of PaPaShaws and bayonetted Mosins is ultra
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# ? Jul 13, 2023 16:19 |
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RBA-Wintrow posted:This troll's getting some mileage out of a 2 sentence post! Meh, don't bother tbh. It's like having an intelligent coversation with a 5 year old. You can reason and debate as much as you want but ultimately it's pointless. Would be nice if they keep to their echo chamber but as with all 5 year olds, they misbehave.
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# ? Jul 13, 2023 16:21 |
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Drone_Fragger posted:I mean fairly obviously. Did pissgoblin really think he could trust putins word? heh, you westoid libs are so gullible, believing anything you read in the media. obviously the wagner "rebellion" was actually good for russia and makes putin stronger because Still waiting for any of the dinguses who popped in here unironically making those claims when it was still happening to come back and have any semblance of intellectual honesty about how badly wrong they were lol as if
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# ? Jul 13, 2023 16:21 |
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Nobody still rooting for POCCNR after one and a half years of this poo poo can be considered intellectually honest anyway, the only honesty they display is rabid contempt and hatred of everything to do with "western imperialism".
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# ? Jul 13, 2023 16:27 |
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So called communists arguing for balanced budgets and fiscal responsibility during war. If that isn't horseshoe theory I don't know whats real anymore
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# ? Jul 13, 2023 16:30 |
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Drone_Fragger posted:I mean fairly obviously. Did pissgoblin really think he could trust putins word? As a goon I think mentioned here earlier, Pregos is a soldier, but Putin is a politician. He probably told him exactly what he wanted to hear to reassure him he won’t be put beneath an ex-NKVD stronghold to get his fingernails and teeth pulled out by FSB.
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# ? Jul 13, 2023 16:32 |
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hot dog man is a financier and pr guy
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# ? Jul 13, 2023 16:33 |
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Sorry I should have put soldier in quotations then.
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# ? Jul 13, 2023 16:36 |
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https://twitter.com/KilledInUkraine/status/1679436804422881280 To think all of this could have been avoided if Putler had just shut up and let NATO crumble on its own.
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# ? Jul 13, 2023 16:42 |
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EorayMel posted:What are the odds they were from museums and deactivated by chopping up the bolts/firing pins? For the Ukrainian gear I was talking about, about 0%?
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Roman Reigns posted:As a goon I think mentioned here earlier, Pregos is a soldier, but Putin is a politician. He probably told him exactly what he wanted to hear to reassure him he won’t be put beneath an ex-NKVD stronghold to get his fingernails and teeth pulled out by FSB. He's not really a soldier, he's a career criminal and fixer. He didn't get from being a nobody prisoner to 'Putin's chef' by being stupid, IMHO.
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Mozi posted:He's not really a soldier, he's a career criminal and fixer. He didn't get from being a nobody prisoner to 'Putin's chef' by being stupid, IMHO. and now he's the "less than 1% miscellaneous foreign material" allowed in every tonne of cattle feed by volume
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# ? Jul 13, 2023 16:47 |
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https://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/1679515604632457218 oof.
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# ? Jul 13, 2023 16:50 |
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grumplestiltzkin posted:heh, you westoid libs are so gullible, believing anything you read in the media. obviously the wagner "rebellion" was actually good for russia and makes putin stronger because They just could not see how this* would hurt Putin's regime. *mercenary general throwing a tantrum and occupying one city and the regional military headquarters, while marching at least a brigade worth of men and equipment 600+ km into artillery's shooting distance from empire's capital basically unopposed inside 36 hours, and the entire thing blows off only because it looks like that the regime capitulated to the general's demands while the tsar ran away somewhere and was nowhere to be found before the rebels turned back. Der Kyhe fucked around with this message at 16:54 on Jul 13, 2023 |
# ? Jul 13, 2023 16:52 |
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Like many other similar rumors previously, this will probably be disproven the next day. This whole Prigozhin affair is so absurd that I expect Peskov to release a picture of Putin and Prigozhin together in a bathtub, doing peace signs or something.
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# ? Jul 13, 2023 16:53 |
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Der Kyhe posted:They just could not see how this* would hurt Putin's regime. And not to mention all those irreplaceable helos and planes and even more irreplaceable pilots that got shot down in the temper tantrum. zone fucked around with this message at 16:58 on Jul 13, 2023 |
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What air defense doing indeed
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# ? Jul 13, 2023 17:03 |
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I'm not going to quote the post (you all know which one), but have to say it is a truly loving vile and disgusting thing to write. I want to thank Toxic Mental and sebmojo for banning his rear end. AP recently published an article about the systematic Russian kidnappings of Ukrainian civilians (adults and children) and how these victims are then tortured and used as slave labour. The situation for those in the occupied territories and those already kidnapped is unbearable, and I do not believe it is a topic that makes for good jokes and if you are twisted enough to make light of it then gently caress you. I will copy the text here, as the link the AP article does contain illustrations, photos and videos depicting what the victims of the Russian occupation forces have had to endure and that might not be something you want to see if you are sensitive to such things. Further links within the article may contain NSFW and NMS material as well so be cautious. I do recommend reading the article to see why there is nothing funny about this topic though and to remind yourself what the people defending Russia (for whatever reasons they may have) are actually standing for. IK NOTE: CONTENT WARNING - This is traumatic stuff Link to AP article: https://apnews.com/article/ukraine-russia-prisons-civilians-torture-detainees-88b4abf2efbf383272eed9378be13c72 quote:Thousands of Ukraine civilians are being held in Russian prisons. Russia plans to build many more Set edit: Sorry to the unnamed IK, I should have made the warnings about the content being really heavy reading a lot more visible. Thanks for adding the extra warnings! Set fucked around with this message at 17:29 on Jul 13, 2023 |
# ? Jul 13, 2023 17:03 |
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Is it certain that is for the Russian army? There was a Thomson SMG there and I doubt Russia would send those to the front. Also they look in real good condition compared to some of the poo poo provided to units, maybe a gun club?
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# ? Jul 13, 2023 17:39 |
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Budzilla posted:Is it certain that is for the Russian army? There was a Thomson SMG there and I doubt Russia would send those to the front. Also they look in real good condition compared to some of the poo poo provided to units, maybe a gun club? They're for the LPR forces that are little more than heavily armed militias. Same formations that got the crusty Mosins last year.
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# ? Jul 13, 2023 17:49 |
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Budzilla posted:Is it certain that is for the Russian army? There was a Thomson SMG there and I doubt Russia would send those to the front. Also they look in real good condition compared to some of the poo poo provided to units, maybe a gun club? Probably old US lend lease poo poo that’s been in a crate for the last 80 years.
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# ? Jul 13, 2023 17:52 |
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Lol using the archangelsk stock from the days of the Pittsburgh troops Holy poo poo lol
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# ? Jul 13, 2023 17:55 |
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Oscar Wilde Bunch posted:Probably old US lend lease poo poo that’s been in a crate for the last 80 years. When Wagner took Soledar there was footage of Prigozhin going through the captured gear and pulling Thompsons out of a crate put there before he was born. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ApFT-pLcAXQ
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# ? Jul 13, 2023 17:59 |
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Oscar Wilde Bunch posted:Probably old US lend lease poo poo that’s been in a crate for the last 80 years. There is nothing inherently wrong on giving out "whatever you have left in the armory", especially if its automatic or semi-auto, if you have nothing else to give to your third line infantry patrolling supply routes and other secondary locations. But we are talking about Russia, the country famous for AK assault rifles that every anarchist, pirate, guerrilla, rebel, or cartel enforcer seems to have at least one always around. So the Russian government has been pouring untold amount of money to setting up their fake countries, and cannot even get them some rusted AK-47's from the late-40's early 50's stock. No, they are the ones dishing the Lend Lease-rejects or stuff that no-one wanted to buy at the black market. This raises the question of how they are going to arm their troops in case they do actually start mobilization, if they run out of assault rifles around "half a million served"? I earlier said that they will never run out of 50's and 60's gear in general because no-one with money to buy something didn't want to buy them, but its starting to look like I am wrong about that.
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# ? Jul 13, 2023 18:02 |
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EorayMel posted:What are the odds they were from museums and deactivated by chopping up the bolts/firing pins? I was thinking that some of those (especially the Thompson) were looking pretty fuckin' cherry. Look, it's hard to believe ANYTHING in this war but, I wouldn't be surprised if this was propaganda from Russia, Ukraine, OR pissed off Wagner troops using exactly that kind of display piece.
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# ? Jul 13, 2023 18:04 |
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Samovar posted:Very, very dark lol. Yeah, after decades of forcing nations all over the world to cut most social services and raise the retirement age. This time “well what can you expect from a third world country” when poverty and corruption got worse. It couldn’t possibly be because neoliberalism is a Bad Idea™️
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# ? Jul 13, 2023 18:06 |
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CoffeeQaddaffi posted:They're for the LPR forces that are little more than heavily armed militias. Same formations that got the crusty Mosins last year. Oscar Wilde Bunch posted:Probably old US lend lease poo poo that’s been in a crate for the last 80 years. My problem is why bother? I know they are desperate for weapons (looking at the Mosins and rusted AKs being used) but you need ammo for guns and .45ACP for the Tommy. I don't think there would be much floating around Russian inventories. This is why I am really skeptical that these are weapons to be deployed. If real then a huge lol.
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# ? Jul 13, 2023 18:07 |
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Did you take a look at the "Wagner kit" the MoD took over yesterday? It was also a collection of things, several models and makes, but at least all AK variants with little to none upgrades to enable using modern equipment with them. Comparing these two, if their elite got that collection of random AK's its fully believable that militia gets this, even if they have to share the only box of ammo they found for the guns.
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# ? Jul 13, 2023 18:12 |
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Yes but all that horrific poo poo would actually be okay if Moscow only did it to its own people, because that would be Peace.
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# ? Jul 13, 2023 18:14 |
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Der Kyhe posted:There is nothing inherently wrong on giving out "whatever you have left in the armory", especially if its automatic or semi-auto, if you have nothing else to give to your third line infantry patrolling supply routes and other secondary locations. But we are talking about Russia, the country famous for AK assault rifles that every anarchist, pirate, guerrilla, rebel, or cartel enforcer seems to have at least one always around. There's nothing wrong with giving out older stuff. The whole thing is just funny because for the last 2 decades, Russia has talked non stop about how powerful their army is when it's actually dated as gently caress and basically pretty loving dire. Three day operation and now it's 500 days later.
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Tai posted:There's nothing wrong with giving out older stuff. The whole thing is just funny because for the last 2 decades, Russia has talked non stop about how powerful their army is when it's actually dated as gently caress and basically pretty loving dire. Three day operation and now it's 500 days later. Sometimes decades have a days worth kf interest in them. Other times, entire decades happen in a Few days. In russias case, it took 500 days to go backwards 8 decades.
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