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mawarannahr posted:you just said this is the ww3 callup!!! It's boiler plate. They're just going to make some reservists do some poo poo work nobody else wanted to do. It's unlikely Biden even read the order before signing it, and not just because he's dementia addled.
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Jul 13, 2023 23:03
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The point is the Russia will probably take half of Ukrainian territory, Biden is just making sure the Russian's sector is basically undesirable. Cluster munitions, mines, the conquerors will have only a pyrrhic victory.
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Jul 13, 2023 23:04
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Egg Moron posted:name me one drat movie that smooth brained war lovers have seen where the good guys don't win big Platoon
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Jul 13, 2023 23:05
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Slavvy posted:Cross of iron that movie ends with all the nazis getting killed by the Red Army
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Jul 13, 2023 23:07
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Regarde Aduck posted:libs literally think Russians are down to T-62's now. And they've been out of artillery since March 2022. And all their tires were bad because chinese. One of the absolute geniuses at Bellingcat claimed, with full confidence, that Russia would be completely out of artillery ammo within two weeks (so like mid-March 2022)
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Regarde Aduck posted:Platoon that movie ends with all the nazis getting killed by the Viet Cong
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Jul 13, 2023 23:08
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Egg Moron posted:that movie ends with all the nazis getting killed by the Red Army Egg Moron posted:name me one drat movie that smooth brained war lovers have seen where the good guys don't win big
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Jul 13, 2023 23:08
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Regarde Aduck posted:libs literally think Russians are down to T-62's now. And they've been out of artillery since March 2022. And all their tires were bad because chinese. Is the T-62 a bad tank? I don't think people understand that a tank is still a big armored box with a gently caress off huge gun even if it's old, and tank on tank battles don't happen frequently unless it's a videogame.
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Jul 13, 2023 23:10
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What I'm saying is as far as smooth brained war lovers are concerned, the good guys lost in cross of iron
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Jul 13, 2023 23:11
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OctaMurk posted:the battle at lake chanjin That movie ends with the Nazis getting killed by the People's Liberation Army
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Jul 13, 2023 23:11
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look fuckers, the good guys win in all these movies
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Nix Panicus posted:Is the T-62 a bad tank? I don't think people understand that a tank is still a big armored box with a gently caress off huge gun even if it's old, and tank on tank battles don't happen frequently unless it's a videogame. Russian t62: bad, lovely old obsolete pile of junk Ukrainian t64: modern high tech ingenuity
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Jul 13, 2023 23:12
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mawarannahr posted:what's going on The recruitment shortfalls are biting. Lowest in decades.
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Jul 13, 2023 23:13
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The British and Canadian militaries also have a "population bottleneck" after the massive cuts in the 90's. Anyone who stayed in and is now a general officer had the temperament to watch that happen, chose not to pursue another career, was protected from being discharged. To be frank, they were probably financially comfortable enough that they went almost a decade without a pay raise without just taking the severance. Or, they're dour thrifty Prots and didn't mind. They went to Bosnia and on UN tours, maybe Haiti, Somalia or Rwanda, which means they're willing to put up with some pretty upsetting stuff that could cause people to be disgusted with the institution or lose their sense of purpose. They were probably senior enough for Afghanistan that they had significant responsibilities and yet didn't get disheartened by feeling like they weren't accomplishing anything. People were hurt or killed on their watch and they didn't ruffle any feathers in Ottawa over it. The Regular regiments watched the Airborne commit warcrimes and still have their officers shoot to the top, then Special Forces become the darling of the politicians. The Reserve regiments had their Airborne beat homeless people to death, and still have their officers shoot to the top, then Reservists attached to SF become the darling of the politicians. They were still able to ride it out, as every other arm had resources cut, general staff appointments cut, Ottawa and Kingston postings cut, and they didn't ruffle any feathers in Ottawa over it. This means there is a certain kind of person who hangs in there during periods of decline and contraction. Well, it stands to reason that anyone who rode out the Russian Army of the loving 1990's is this kind of person, and that probably doesn't exactly leave the heirs of Zhukov any more than the above are the heirs of Monty. They're political animals and survivors, but that doesn't select for military leadership per se, and eliminates the "deep bench" I was talking about that you'd want to draw from.
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mawarannahr posted:*meanwhile in Freeland* i like how the article has to mention "china bad" right in the middle of it lol
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Jul 13, 2023 23:19
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Starsfan posted:yeah there's been some very brutal investigative journalism reporting that paints a very grim picture on how indigenous people are treated in the hospital system in Canada. They are flat our denied care and victims of malpractice at a far greater incidence than non indigenous people. Indigenous Consultation During the drafting of Bill C-7, the Department of Justice undertook public consultations with Indigenous leaders and experts; however, the committee underscores that these consultations were not comprehensive. The department failed to include Métis- or Inuit-specific representation in their Indigenous roundtable. Bill C-7 does not address the concerns that were raised at the Indigenous roundtable during the consultation process regarding the limited access to culturally appropriate healthcare options for Indigenous Peoples and systemic racism in the healthcare system. Parliamentary Review The preamble to Bill C-7 states that a committee of Parliament will begin a review of the legislative provisions relating to MAiD and the state of palliative care in Canada in June 2020. It does not specify that the parliamentary review look at Indigenous Peoples’ access to MAiD or access to culturally appropriate palliative care. Parliamentary review of MAiD legislation should include research and analysis on Indigenous Peoples’ access to and use of MAiD, and on culturally appropriate palliative care in Indigenous communities. Support services Several witnesses stated that improved disability supports, palliative care and mental health services are needed in conjunction with or instead of access to MAiD and that additional investments in these support services are essential. Indigenous Peoples, especially those living in remote areas, face additional barriers to accessing culturally appropriate support services which may be alternatives to MAiD. Future parliamentary reviews of the legislation should pay particular attention to the accessibility of culturally appropriate support services for Indigenous Peoples. Report Representatives of major national disability organizations stated that removing the legal requirement of a person having a “reasonably foreseeable natural death” to be eligible for MAiD would single out disability in a manner that would be inconsistent with the equality rights guaranteed by the Charter, and that they anticipated a constitutional challenge on this basis if any such amendment is passed. Adequate Access to Health Care •In discussing Canadians’ adequate access to health care, many witnesses told the committee that: oMany Canadians do not have sufficient access to quality health care and support services, particularly for persons with disabilities, Indigenous peoples, those living in remote areas, and racialized persons, among others. oCanadians, especially in certain regions, also face a lack of access to trained and qualified MAiD assessors and providers. oMany are concerned that individuals may choose MAiD if there are not sufficient alternatives in palliative care or mental and physical health supports available to them. o Some underscored that MAiD should only be considered as a last resort when all other alternatives have been considered. Indigenous Peoples •Many witnesses testified that the Government of Canada’s consultations with Indigenous peoples were insufficient, that Inuit and Métis were not consulted, and that Canada’s MAiD framework did not adequately fulfill the Government’s responsibility to consult. •Witnesses cautioned that Indigenous peoples are not monolithic and their views and perspectives on MAiD are diverse. •Witnesses raised concerns that Indigenous peoples should be informed about MAiD in a culturally safe way. •Witnesses repeated the need for physicians to ensure that patients who are eligible for MAiD are not pressured or coerced due to lack of support services. 
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Frosted Flake posted:I know I live in a bubble, so I’m asking what regular people think. Surely not that the attacker (3:1 advantage required), outgunned 10:1 is somehow inflicting 5:1 or even 2:1 casualties on the defender? https://twitter.com/Rebel44CZ/status/1679542760854937609?t=rQPb2j_IP49zhKkyTCqbuw&s=19 https://twitter.com/Rebel44CZ/status/1679542655515250688?t=UE1agecpp4Igc2GK2ZqYnQ&s=19 Look, 50 is bigger than 16, you can't deny that
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i'd say the main issue with a T-62 is all about its targeting systems. If it's upgraded to a modern standard with a laser rangefinder and thermals then it's fine. I don't think its wise to go onto a modern battlefield without those as a bare minimum but i'm just a civvie
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Preemptive lmao if it turns out to be true that the carrot Biden offered Erdogan is a loving IMF loan
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tazjin posted:Preemptive lmao if it turns out to be true that the carrot Biden offered Erdogan is a loving IMF loan probably lol
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I don't want to start raving like a lunatic, but I saw a pub not long ago that said, as close to verbatim as I can recall, that the T-62 is being used only as a substitute for the BMP-3 in the fire support role in formations where the BMP-3 has not yet been delivered in sufficient quantities for it to be the primary IFV. I would speculate that it's also being used in BTR equipped formations and maybe to augment BMP-3 equipped formations if available. So - if that's the case - the BMP-3 should be the point of comparison for firepower and protection, since T-62 is reportedly being used as a substitute in the fire support role, rather than T-72B3 or T-90 in the MBT role. Someone can fish around to see if there are publicly available pubs on the above, but that's my understanding of the current doctrine surrounding T-62.
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mawarannahr posted:the nazi farmer with a heart of gold Couple gold teeth too, don’t ask where he got them.
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the T-62 has a really good gun that can shoot modern ammunition, which is all it really needs to do
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I know we had this exact conversation last year, but I have a theory: the failure of the incredibly expensive MGS programs have led to western militaries kind of forgetting what a fire support vehicle is. Maybe just the public, idk. Now, would anyone run around claiming using these was proof NATO at its pinnacle was "out of tanks" or using "bad" tanks?     The marketing of the incredibly expensive M1 Abrams and Leopard 2 as the solution for everything (so you buy more?), and its consequences has been a disaster for all NATO-kind. Using my $10M, 75 tonne tank to destroy a machine gun nest. Frosted Flake has issued a correction as of 23:37 on Jul 13, 2023 |
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Why do those tanks have wheels.
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fanfic insert posted:whats up with the "punished x" thing with avs/pfp with eyepatches? why are they always psycho-posting? Regarde Aduck posted:reference to metal gear solid 5 Yep
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Cpt_Obvious posted:Why do those tanks have wheels. lol if you want to get into it, this was actually another one of those 1980's, 1990's things,  The entire second half of the (required reading) On Armor is about how the age of tracked vehicles are over, the future is air-transportable wheeled vehicles. It was a huge, huge thing in the 90's. Belgium scrapped all of their tracked vehicles, other NATO countries cut way back. Frosted Flake has issued a correction as of 23:40 on Jul 13, 2023 |
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Lostconfused posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AxZWxxZ2JGE ok but hear me out firing a general hurts their feelings and in a way isnt that kind of an authoritarianism
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Frosted Flake posted:McKinsey hates that you have a lot of people doing staff work in the chance that one might be the man who relieves the division commander, and that you have no idea if he has that spark in peacetime where he might be a demotivated, ho hum administrator. Meanwhile a career hustle mindset wonderkid like... McClellan ... might be a huge drag on the war McClellan was a fine general and was exactly the sort of general the Union needed at the start of the war. He turned the army of Potomac into an actual fighting force instead of a bunch of conscripts with guns and he turned Washington D.C. into the most fortified city in the world. He was loved by his troops, probably for the same reason he was hated by politicians, his refusal to attack pointlessly. His peninsular campaign was an incredibly bold offensive, bypassing Confederate fortifications and attempting to seize their capital directly with a sea-supplied army. Attempts to replace him went terribly, with Pope, Burnside, and Hooker being removed in short order. He had a lot of problems but I would rank him as one of the good generals of the Civil War, maybe even one of the greats when you consider his many skills at the boring (non-battle) parts of war. When he was finally replaced by Grant and Meade it was the correct call but he made huge contributions to winning the Civil War.
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lol National Guard's State Partnership Program Marks 30 Years www.defense.gov posted:This weekend, the National Guard's State Partnership Program marks 30 years of contacts, exercises and aid to nations around the world.
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It's the dumbest thing in the world to be Archeotech, but basically no one has been able to make new M113s.   
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The T-62 is a tier 5 tank with an offensive rating of 27 and defense of 22. It's good for it's tier, but it's up against modern tier 8 stuff. The Leopard has 35 defense! How can a 27 offensive stat even scratch 35 defense? Field all the T-62s you want but a single Leopard is going to roll right over them. And that's not even considering the new tier 9 stuff!
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BearsBearsBears posted:McClellan was a fine general and was exactly the sort of general the Union needed at the start of the war. He turned the army of Potomac into an actual fighting force instead of a bunch of conscripts with guns and he turned Washington D.C. into the most fortified city in the world. He was loved by his troops, probably for the same reason he was hated by politicians, his refusal to attack pointlessly. His peninsular campaign was an incredibly bold offensive, bypassing Confederate fortifications and attempting to seize their capital directly with a sea-supplied army. Attempts to replace him went terribly, with Pope, Burnside, and Hooker being removed in short order. That's entirely fair. I think the "organizers" are important, and seem to be the best "peacetime" officers (The Psychology of Military Incompetence calls them "Rat Catchers") who can assemble a decent force to put in the field. Again, the generals who get the credit for sending that force into battle are usually dogshit planners and administrators, so it makes sense that they inherited a good fighting force painstakingly assembled by someone who lacked the mystérieux émanait to win with that force. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MMLT1RjHXY I think you're right about the division of skills between battle/non-battle. Like I said, I know enough about my own personality that I don't like being aggressive or have the confidence to be the star of the show (ask me about The Great Santini sometime lol). The problem, to loop this back to my favourite Danish military study, is that neoliberal militaries are actively recruiting absolute bloodless psycho careerists who can oversee cuts and everything else (or rather, trying to). Christman described university administrators really well recently and I think it encapsulates the changes in the military, though I can't remember it will enough to reiterate it. Frosted Flake has issued a correction as of 23:50 on Jul 13, 2023 |
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https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1679475461087272962 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDJ8rSyaYdE&t=357s The Kiev Independent is trying to explain the history of Ukrainian nationalism and the prominence of Bandera and the OUN in modern Ukraine to its audience of western liberals. Even with the most charitable explanation of the OUN's history, they still come across as a bunch of bloodthirsty pogromists who make the "Soviet myths and anti-Ukrainian propaganda" sound completely accurate. There's also some bonus judeo-bolshevism when they try to justify the antisemitism of the OUN as Political since they thought the Jews were loyal to the Communist Party.
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Sometimes all you need is a vehicle with a cannon on it that doesn’t explode when a 12.7mm MG looks at it
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[UKR-RUS] Was Stepan Bandera good or evil?
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Endman posted:Sometimes all you need is a vehicle with a cannon on it that doesn’t explode when a 12.7mm MG looks at it Most of the time. Most of the time vehicles are not being shot at with .50. You can say that the idea that they need that level of bulk and protection is the result of the MIC profit motive, western professional military/expeditionary war casualty avoidance, or a combination, but nobody besides Special Forces is ever going to see anything like the Bren Gun Carrier again, unless they go all-in on Defeating the Russian BTG, in which case lol/rip. I mean, just watch those Ukrainian attacks with MRAPS. What the gently caress were they thinking? An MRAP is supposed to be a truck that doesn't create headlines at home. That's it, that's all. Which means that it's not useful in either the high intensity part of conventional war, where you want an IFV, the average intensity, where you want an APC, or the rear echelon/other duties, where you want a truck.
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A t-64 was a pretty big jump in tech, it was a complete new design in terms of composite armor, a larger gun, autoloader, and a gas turbine engine (basically much closer to a modern tank). It is a better tank than the t-62 but it is expensive with some reliability issues. The T-72 was the "cheaper" mass produced tank, but in all honesty, it had a better autoloader, similar protection, and its diesel engine was a lot more reliable. The T-62 is probably fine in a support role where you need to have some type of fire support (I guess possibly to replace BMP-3s) and I would assume an issue the Russians are having is simply being able to scale the size of their military with mobilized personnel and volunteers coming in. It is clear the Russians have been modernizing T-72/T-80s, as well as building more T-90s. It does beg the question about armor reserves as well, since the Russians still have a huge amount of T-72s sitting around and total Russian tank reserves seem to be 2-3 times that of the US according to satellite data. Ardennes has issued a correction as of 23:55 on Jul 13, 2023 |
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To be clear I don't think they're trying to replace BMP-3s, I think they're being used as a substitute until they can get enough of them. One of the most unvarnished facets of this whole conflict has been the degree to which everyone, even begrudgingly, is impressed with the BMP-3. I've even seen it described as the perfect execution of the IFV concept the Soviets have been working towards since the BMP-1. It's just that they're expensive and hard to produce, and so there was a dearth of them in the 90's. I think it's been a bit of a surprise, actually, but I haven't seen anyone with a bad thing to say about them. Nearly never the case for Soviet-designed kit, so I'm sure NAFO is talking poo poo about them somewhere, but everything I've read said it lived up to or exceeded the dream of the 80's and 90's, which really drives home how broke Russia was(/is?) because I'm sure they would have loved for them to be a 1:1 replacement for BMP-2s in all BMP equipped Motor Rifle Formations. It took them a long time to get the design down, combining the strengths of a low pressure gun and auto cannon, with an acceptable level of protection, mobility and capacity, but... goddamn I would love if our MIC could put the Cougar's 76mm on a LAV without it costing $8M. It's also cool because in my reference books you go from, it being a rumour in the 70's which the authors dismiss as an impossibility, to possible sightings and leaks in the 80's which the authors are amazed by but the Soviets will never produce in any number, to the 90's where, like the BTR-90 it pretty much disappears, to Georgia and Ukraine '15 where it was sort of dismissed, to now, where, goddamn yeah the BMP-3 is pretty great for transporting an infantry section and giving them enough firepower against all threats to accomplish their task. That's really neat. Frosted Flake has issued a correction as of 00:00 on Jul 14, 2023 |
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Frosted Flake posted:lol if you want to get into it, this was actually another one of those 1980's, 1990's things, I guess it's harder for your tank to break down when it can't engage the enemy off-road.
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