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Robviously posted:I really hope people start treating these kyuji tournaments as the black spots on the Sumo Association that they really are. I know that this really isn't anything new but it seems like the age of steady yokozuna may be over given the atrocious attempts made to shame not just them but also the ozeki they promote into destroying themselves like this. Rikshi really need to be able to take at least one basho off a year without falling in rank in order to heal. Constantly pushing people to wrestle even when they're injured is a big part of why sumo wrestlers die twenty years earlier on average than your average Japanese citizen. It's absurd that the only people who can take time off are ozeki once every other basho and yokozuna whenever they feel like it. Everyone else is in a constant meat grinder and the few people who've gotten to the top have crawled through that meat grinder. Ice Phisherman fucked around with this message at 02:19 on Jul 12, 2023 |
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Really puts in context how incredible Tamawashi's streak of matches is as a competitor, his durability and grit to fight through pain are absolutely unreal. I'm sad to see Terunofuji out, and I sort of have to wonder if Tobizaru would have even considered the leg sweep if Terunofuji hadn't tried it first. There seemed to be some tactics that people didn't really use against Terunofuji even though they might have been effective and that was one of them.
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After seeing Teru wobbly post match and watching the replay, I kinda winced at the leg shot from Tobi. It's fair play on Tobi's part, but it looked to connect direct with Teru's knee.
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I'm sad I forgot to check the thread in time for sumo basho - I hope everyones picks go well 
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Put in picks and you'll get points from day 4!
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Good thing ive only watched (and forgotten) day 1 so far and know no results! Y/O: Terunofuji Takakeisho Kirishima S/K: Kotonowaka Wakamotoharu Abi M1-5: Tobizaru Meisei Asanoyama M6-10: Takayasu Takanosho Hokutofuji M11+: Kotoeko Wakatakakage Chiyoshoma
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Kenning posted:Put in picks and you'll get points from day 4! Speaking of which - you might as well build in the 0.5 deduction for everyone given Teru's kyujo lol
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Day 4 Absolutely beautiful sukuinage by Asanoyama! Also, I may have watched every basho for a couple of years by now, but on thing is for sure: I will never ever tell Meisei and Miogiryu apart.
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I woke up this morning from a dream where I was apparently a rikishi in the ring, and as I crouched down for the tachiai I accidentally let out a big long farrrt that resounded through the stadium. Who wants to analyze my sumo dream? I'm owning up to a weird one here.
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Hello Kenning, may I trade the Kyujo Kaiju for Kirishima please.
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bessantj posted:Hello Kenning, may I trade the Kyujo Kaiju for Kirishima please. Pretty sure it's happening automatically for everyone, but I would also like to do this
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some kinda jackal posted:I woke up this morning from a dream where I was apparently a rikishi in the ring, and as I crouched down for the tachiai I accidentally let out a big long farrrt that resounded through the stadium. i'm pretty sure this was your brain intuiting the secret to a powerful tachiai.
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Does anybody else think Hokuseiho has a really bad tachiai or is it just me? It's like he stands straight up immediately at the beginning of a match. No forward momentum at all.
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Vargatron posted:Does anybody else think Hokuseiho has a really bad tachiai or is it just me? It's like he stands straight up immediately at the beginning of a match. No forward momentum at all. it could be strategic. He's big enough that he doesn't need forward momentum to hold fast against most opponenets and he gets to use those long rear end arms to grab the mawashi of the rikishi that kindly brought himself into grip distance. i think he's learning that poo poo won't fly with a lot of opponents here. but honestly i have no loving idea my wrestling / judo is abysmal and my sumo knowledge is somehow worse.
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The thing about Hokuseiho is that he's extremely tall. He's the tallest boy and any sumo he does or gets done to him has to account for that. I really hope his matches get more dynamic as both he everyone else learn how to deal with it. But I also know gently caress-all about grappling/fighting/wrestling.
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I think he’s going to hit a ceiling soon as his sheer height and size no longer cut it. We saw some inklings of that on day 2 versus Oho where he looked unsteady and struggled to maintain his footing. When he can’t move the opponent out immediately his strategy seems to be to stand and rest in the top position while he gasses out the other guy, which is not a bad strategy, but it’s only going to get him so far
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I have thought for awhile that Hokuseiho would plateau if he didn't add some explosion to his sumo. He's still so young and I'm thinking he will start trying to mix it up now that he's posting single digit KKs
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I assume he does it as a risk mitigation strategy: can't henka a standup, and by not shifting his weight forward he can't really be slapped down immediately either. That being said, I completely agree that he's going to have to learn to put up resistance against top tier folks who can destabilize him more than his body can absorb. I think we saw a preview of what he's going to do with Kotonowaka's development - showed up with a powerful big body but somewhat passive approach, and has gradually been expanding outwards. He's still defensive, but will absolutely blow people up now if he senses weakness. I think we should probably wait for him to put up a losing record before doom and gloom, haha.
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Curious if I can get help from someone who's used buysumotickets.com before. I was going to go ahead and pre-order my tickets for September. I had originally planned on going opening day, but it seems that tickets are sold out up to 'box c'. If I look at this picture, that doesn't seem so bad:  I'm just curious how it corresponds to this picture:  Does each 'row' of boxes correspond to the 'tiers' listed on the site? Assuming that, box c doesn't seem so bad, but if it's the seats up under the overhang I think I'd prefer to wait a day. Seats for Monday are still available in the 'a' box I'm also interested in how cramped the boxes are for 4 adult Americans. I get the impression that the stadium seats would be very uncomfortable for person my size. Nativity In Black fucked around with this message at 02:26 on Jul 13, 2023 |
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I think the hanamichi is in the “back” so you’re looking at basically what you see, top-most boxes, except on the side not photographed. Almost certainly under the overhang. They all seemed /just fine/ when I went to watch in May, though I didn’t linger since my seats were Arena A and S for both days. The stadium seats aren’t bad at all. I’m not particularly large, 170lbs-ish, but they fit me perfectly. Consider that if you’re there for the whole day then the box would be better for two people who can stretch their legs out and while you could probably do four people in a box it would probably be cramped and uncomfortable as the day wears on since you’d need to be cross legged the entire time. BUT — but I’ve only ever done stadium seating every time I attended so I can’t really speak from personal experience. If you give me five minutes I’ll youtube my quick Kokugikan walk around and post it. E: This should resolve to HD eventually. I take a peek into the upper boxes right at the start of the video and again around the 1:30-ish mark. At the very end of the video I go back to my S seat so you can kind of compare and contrast the two. Otherwise skip the video if you want to experience the Kokugikan for the first time through your own eyes rather than a lovely youtube. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KtOobkYDP64 E2: Got up to stretch my legs a bit later but essentially the same video. I think some of the boxes are more populated in this one so maybe they’ll give you a better idea, not sure. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEPml4Ef69k Good luck! some kinda jackal fucked around with this message at 03:48 on Jul 13, 2023 |
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Day 5 Man, I'm so glad to have Nishikigi on my team for my first fantasy basho. What a joy it is to watch this pear-shaped bespectacled man take on all comers.
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i rarely remember my team picks and just go for anyone who fights cool but i just checked how i'm doing and gonoyama, takayasu, and hoshoryu are loving holding it down. then there is shodai.
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I mean that's basically the unofficial thread title. Sumo: then there is Shodai.
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JohnCompany posted:Sumo: then there is Shodai. Lol. Closest thing to poetry I nearly wrote.
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I love watching a henka fail.
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Nativity In Black posted:I love watching a henka fail. It's why I support it as a legit move. Clean pay-off if it works. Humiliation on the dohyo and the tabloids if it fails and you don't win.
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You absolutely cannot henka without getting in their head during rituals.
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Kiho and Hakuoho have been underwhelming this basho
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Granted that the sumo world had been going nuts about Hakuho being the second of his namesake, it's important to remember he's 19 and this is his fourth tournament as a pro. First in the top division. If he gets a KK, I'd say that's a satisfactory result.
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Nativity In Black posted:Granted that the sumo world had been going nuts about Hakuho being the second of his namesake, it's important to remember he's 19 and this is his fourth tournament as a pro. First in the top division. If he gets a KK, I'd say that's a satisfactory result. Excellent point and good to keep in mind. That loving shikona already had me expecting him to contend lol.
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In fact I'll go further and say it was a miscalculation for hakuho to do that now. He should have done it if the kid gets to ozeki like the new kiri.
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If/When he gets to ozeki, they will drop the 'u'
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Marching Powder posted:In fact I'll go further and say it was a miscalculation for hakuho to do that now. He should have done it if the kid gets to ozeki like the new kiri. I mean if Hakuho had his way the kid would have debuted with the name. That he held off for the top division took all the patience he had, and as we have seen his patience for sumo bullshit is infinite.
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Nativity In Black posted:If/When he gets to ozeki, they will drop the 'u' As it should be.
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Nativity In Black posted:Granted that the sumo world had been going nuts about Hakuho being the second of his namesake, it's important to remember he's 19 and this is his fourth tournament as a pro. First in the top division. If he gets a KK, I'd say that's a satisfactory result. Meanwhile Gonoyama has been going through makuuchi like it's jonidan, which is much more in line with what we were told to expect from Hakuoho. And Kiho seems like he might just straight up be too small for juryo. Most of why I lump them in, aside from them being stablemates, is I think the shikona and the gold mawashi are both "calling one's shot" in a way that's just presumptuous if you don't follow through. Either one of them would break me in half easily, of course.
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So Hakuoho is the real freaking deal isn't he? This is going to be an interesting tournament.
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I said it before, I'll say it again: Nishikigi yusho. Surely you'll concede he's earned it. Day 5 standings: Makuuchi code:code:
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Kenning posted:I said it before, I'll say it again: Nishikigi yusho. Surely you'll concede he's earned it.  everything looked so good on paper.
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Flesnolk posted:Meanwhile Gonoyama has been going through makuuchi like it's jonidan, which is much more in line with what we were told to expect from Hakuoho. Gonoyama needs to be tearing through the lower ranks if he wants to be something. Dude's 25, if he can't win now, hes never going to. His peer group is Kotonowaka and Hoshoryu. And he's even behind Hiradoumi, Oho and Hokuseiho who are all 2 years younger. There's like one guy in Hakuoho's year in upper Makushita and the vast majority of his peers are Sadaname or lower. Just holding his own is crazy good.
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Kuros posted:
Your brand of sumo is terrible. But honourable.
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