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Boxturret posted:Didn't Amy go blind at one point in that two parter and had to pretend that she could see, and the angels slowly realised that she couldn't actually see and started moving a bit? Kinda messed up the ending of Blink, if their becoming stone was more of a choice when they think they're being seen rather than an automatic thing. I figured it's a reflex for them. Like the world's most extreme form of flinching If not for that one scene, it could be that when they're not in stone form, they are actually quantum entities. When not observed, they exist in a superposition of all possible locations that they could have reached at their top speed within that time frame, and looking at them collapses the waveform. But that doesn't account for them turning to stone when they only think they're being observed.
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armpit_enjoyer posted:That would require writers to engage with the core concept of the Cybermen and thus far nobody but Steven Moffat seemed willing to do it (and even then he got bored with it halfway through The Doctor Falls) Yeah they're just a huge missed opportunity whenever they're on TV. I suspect the main issue is that the properly affecting stuff about them is the body horror which you can't really do at 7pm in an ostensibly family show. The best you can manage is James Corden being forced to wear a hat.
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Jul 15, 2023 08:11
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Fil5000 posted:Yeah they're just a huge missed opportunity whenever they're on TV. I suspect the main issue is that the properly affecting stuff about them is the body horror which you can't really do at 7pm in an ostensibly family show. The best you can manage is James Corden being forced to wear a hat. And that’s *another* thing! I hate how the Cybermen are just Guys In Suits. Robocop came out 36 years ago and you’re telling me we can’t do anything even half as convincing as that with modern VFX?
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Jul 15, 2023 08:23
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I would loving LOVE stop-motion cybermen.
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Jul 15, 2023 08:51
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Coward posted:I would loving LOVE stop-motion cybermen. Don't tease me with things they won't give me!
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Jul 15, 2023 10:13
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armpit_enjoyer posted:And that’s *another* thing! I hate how the Cybermen are just Guys In Suits. Robocop came out 36 years ago and you’re telling me we can’t do anything even half as convincing as that with modern VFX? I don't want fancy Cybermen, I want silently screaming corpses in body bags with robot bits forcing them around. Stop motion Mondas-stylee FTW
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Jul 15, 2023 11:44
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Davros1 posted:I've always imagined a scene where The Doctor comes across a battlefield, and it's just thousands of Weeping Angel statues, and before each one stands a Cyberman, forever unmoving. Now thats a great idea. The Angels would win in the end as they Cybermen would deteriorate quicker over time. So the Doctor is just landing as when one Cyberman is about to topple over, the first domino to fall, and after that the Weeping Angels will massacre them and then the Tardis. And its the Cybermen who called and trapped the Doc there, to help save them. What does the Doc do?
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Jul 15, 2023 11:50
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Jerusalem posted:
The saddest thing is the Cybermen never realized that if the just hosed off, and colonized a barren planet, and never bothered anyone, they WOULD survive. But that human part of them that remains is compelled to propagate.
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Jul 15, 2023 13:26
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I say it a lot but the second episode of Human Resources where the 8th Doctor keeps demanding to know WHY they must survive and the Cybermen's inability to do anything but fall back on the stock response is like the most genuinely perfect Cybermen moment in any and all Doctor Who media I've ever experienced. Closest thing to it is that amazing scene from Tomb of the Cybermen where the Cyber-Controller is trying to force the door to stay open as Toberman forces it closed. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvE3EaP-RuA&t=66s "WE MUZT SURVIVE! WE MUZZZZZZT!"
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Jul 15, 2023 13:55
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Ncuti’s first season has now wrapped!  
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Jul 15, 2023 14:08
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Please RTD.... I need new Who..... 
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Jul 15, 2023 14:25
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Christmas special is just the entire new season back to back
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Jul 15, 2023 14:30
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happyhippy posted:Now thats a great idea. "It's a slow war, y'see... looks like they're not moving but they ARE, they're moving so slowly your human eyes can't even register it, my superior Time Lord eyes though... can't see it either, but I assure you they ARE moving, what happens when they start to break down though? ...You use CHILDREN!? "
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Jul 15, 2023 14:32
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I always assumed the reason the Cybermen can't just gently caress off onto a planet and stay there is because they still have a bunch of organic components that can't be replaced or repaired, so they're still mortal; they can't reproduce on their own, so the only way to keep the species going is to keep converting people. Which leads me to think of a story taking place on a Cybermen farm planet, where a captive population is kept and maintained just as conversion fodder. I wonder if Big Finish ever did anything like that
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Jul 15, 2023 14:42
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Top tip for aspiring DW writers: when writing an episode featuring one or the other of them, it helps to remember that the Daleks are basically Nazis and the Cybermen are somewhat akin to Soviet Communists. The Daleks are obsessed with the purity of their race (even if, as seen in later episodes, they are somewhat hypocritical about it), while the Cybermen don't care who you are or where you came from, as all beings are potential converts to their way of life (and if you refuse to convert, you will be destroyed).
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Jul 15, 2023 15:06
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armpit_enjoyer posted:I always assumed the reason the Cybermen can't just gently caress off onto a planet and stay there is because they still have a bunch of organic components that can't be replaced or repaired, so they're still mortal; they can't reproduce on their own, so the only way to keep the species going is to keep converting people. There was Virgin Missing Adventure, "Killing Ground", that had that premise But if the Cybermen could learn the art of cloning organic parts ...
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Jul 15, 2023 15:28
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It was tangential to the episode itself but I loved that scene during 11's run (might have been in The Pandorica Opens?) when Amy and the Doctor are in a room with an ancient Cyberman corpse's with a decapitated head, and the body comes to "life" to kill them. Amy has hold of the head when suddenly it springs open and a skull falls out, and the "head" is basically straining against her arms trying to force her head inside so it can replace the missing "part". I loved that body horror aspect. That further proof that the original need for the Mondasians to survive had been replaced with a meaningless imperative whereby the survival of the unit (and more importantly, the collective) was the only important thing, and everything else was replaceable. If you asked a Cyberman that had been around since the original days of Mondas they'd probably claim to be the original unit, just with every single aspect of their organic parts replaced dozens of times over! Give me Cybership of Theseus, RTD!
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Jul 15, 2023 15:41
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How the angels were later depicted doesn't really fit with their first appearance, which is weird since Mofat invented them. The lonely assassins, they used to be called. No one quite knows where they came from, but they’re as old as the universe, or very nearly, and they have survived this long because they have the most perfect defence system ever evolved. They are quantum-locked. They don’t exist when they’re being observed. The moment they are seen by any other living creature, they freeze into rock. No choice. It’s a fact of their biology. In the sight of any living thing, they literally turn to stone. And you can’t kill a stone. Of course, a stone can’t kill you either. But then you turn your head away, then you blink, and oh yes it can… That’s why they cover their eyes. They’re not weeping. They can’t risk looking at each other. Their greatest asset is their greatest curse. They can never be seen. The loneliest creatures in the universe.
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Jul 15, 2023 15:53
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Jerusalem posted:Give me Cybership of Theseus, RTD! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5MBlH8t3f0 
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Jul 15, 2023 15:53
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Goddamn Capaldi was so loving good. Deep Breath's first half was awful but then it kicked into gear and it just got better and better as it went along.
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Jul 15, 2023 16:06
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The look to the camera at the end is great. "Hi, I'm the new Doctor - and I will literally murder to protect Earth" 
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Jul 15, 2023 16:08
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Jerusalem posted:Goddamn Capaldi was so loving good. Deep Breath's first half was awful but then it kicked into gear and it just got better and better as it went along. It's a bizarre episode. Simultaneously one of the worst and one of the best.
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Jul 15, 2023 16:38
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Sydney Bottocks posted:Top tip for aspiring DW writers: when writing an episode featuring one or the other of them, it helps to remember that the Daleks are basically Nazis and the Cybermen are somewhat akin to Soviet Communists. The Daleks are obsessed with the purity of their race (even if, as seen in later episodes, they are somewhat hypocritical about it), while the Cybermen don't care who you are or where you came from, as all beings are potential converts to their way of life (and if you refuse to convert, you will be destroyed). No need to mention they're hypocritical about it, fascism focused on racial purity is always and inherently hypocritical
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Jul 15, 2023 18:55
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He was so good. I can't think of a good moment in Whittaker's run where she just talked and captured the room - I rewatched the Zygon double and Capaldi had me on the edge of my seat during his antiwar speech. This moment in Deep Breath too where he starts out by saying he's afraid he's going to have to kill the villan, and does so just by taking to him about the reality of his situation.
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Jul 16, 2023 11:50
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Jerusalem posted:Goddamn Capaldi was so loving good. Deep Breath's first half was awful but then it kicked into gear and it just got better and better as it went along. I think I've said it before but the turning point is the restaurant scene. Everything before is bad and everything after is good.
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Jul 16, 2023 12:51
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Basically the moment their table starts lowering it's like an entirely different writer took over. It's crazy.
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Jul 16, 2023 17:34
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That moment where the Doctor is calling Clara/Me to tell us to not give on the Doctor -- really great moment for a transitional doctor episode. I should start a rewatch before the new Who kicks up, I will try to pay more attention to episode titles so I can't put a feeling to a title better.
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Jul 16, 2023 23:25
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 Happy 6 year anniversary to Thirteen Feels like we hardly knew ye
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Jul 16, 2023 23:41
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While the Whittaker Era was uneven there were definitely episodes I enjoyed. And Whittaker herself, brilliant, marvelous.
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Jul 16, 2023 23:49
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Honestly, I'd happily trade the entire era for, let's say, a copy of episode 3 of The Daleks Master Plan. And I'm not even sure if that's a missing episode or not, that's how little I care. There were 2 or 3 good episodes I guess, but the entire format of the show felt off. Junk the masters, keep the audio recordings in the grand Doctor Who tradition, and let wasteland scavengers 100 years from now huddle around a scratched first-generation iPod, listening to the audio from that episode with Tesla accompanied by a slideshow of various press photos, and go, "Well, it's hard to judge the episode based on the audio alone, maybe the visuals were really engaging?"
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Jul 17, 2023 01:41
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Vinylshadow posted:
31 episodes total since Christmas 2017.
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Jul 17, 2023 06:18
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Do we know when the first of the specials will air yet? The anniversary date the 23 of November would he a good bet right?
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Jul 17, 2023 06:27
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Maybe before then. The second one, Wild Blue Yonder, appears to be the actual 60th anniversary special.
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Jul 17, 2023 09:11
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Senor Tron posted:And you can’t kill a stone. IT WAS MURDERED
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Jul 18, 2023 12:18
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Senor Tron posted:How the angels were later depicted doesn't really fit with their first appearance, which is weird since Mofat invented them. It's very funny that so so many BF plays sort of take this idea of being "seen" very literally, when it's really the idea of them being "observed". So you'll have characters holding onto Angels, observing them with security devices, etc. but that doesn't really count because only the naked eye counts. Even Flesh and Stone gets this (maybe?) kind of wrong, with Jorah Mormont being trapped in a headlock. That seems like a stalemate.
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Jul 18, 2023 12:53
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https://twitter.com/mwtroughton/status/1681224886243426309?t=70mZdYtI6Q2K0cwLUyK1pw&s=19
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Jul 18, 2023 17:18
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https://twitter.com/bbcdoctorwho/status/1681355661249069058
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Jul 18, 2023 18:36
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I'd like to but you bastards won't release the episodes for like another thousand years
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Jul 18, 2023 18:48
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There’s also a Doctor picture where he’s rizzed up like Baby Gronk. Am I saying that properly?  https://twitter.com/bbcdoctorwho/status/1681363214636810255?s=46
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 I would like to go with the Doctor please
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