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Neito posted:it's also very "i think you don't understand that that proves the oposite point that you think it does", i.e. that most of america's wealth is exploitative. [untitled goose game meme] accumulated from where? accumulated from where, motherfucker???
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Ask HN: How could I safely contact drug cartels? 91 points by csears 1 day ago | flag | hide | past | favorite | 178 comments Ok, this is going to sound a little weird, but bear with me. I have an idea that has the potential to reduce fentanyl deaths, reduce drug-related violence, and improve operating margins for drug cartels. I assume the cartel leaders are essentially profit motivated, and would be interested in something that would prevent their customers from dying, cut down on the violence that brings law enforcement attention, and improve their profit margins. I realize it sounds a little crazy, but, hypothetically, how would I safely go about setting up meetings with cartels? I'm not even sure where to start or what kind of lawyer to check with for advice. Email in my bio if you'd rather reach out directly. Thanks! reply At least everyone is telling him he's a moron.
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csears 9 hours ago | root | parent | next [–] That's not lost on me. Obviously it would be a tough balance to strike to remain "useful" to the cartels, while not being "too useful" that they would feel the need to exert control. That's why I'm interested in educating myself more fully on the whole situation so I can make an informed risk assessment. If there's no path forward that also kept my family and myself safe, I won't pursue it further.
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lmao that he came up with an idea that he genuinely believes will save thousands of lives and is keeping it secret because he intends to monetize it. he intends to monetize it by selling it to drug cartels
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“alright homies. ever heard of the prisoner’s dilemma? it’s like this-“ *gets decapacitated by a huge muscled cartel dude with a machete*
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Jul 16, 2023 04:00
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did he watch too much breaking bad, or not enough?
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Jul 16, 2023 08:14
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breaking nerd
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I'm curious what his idea is because if cartels cutting drugs with fentanyl were willing to put in a bunch of extra effort/cost to not kill people all they need to do is whatever steps and quality control pharma companies do to ensure that the dose is consistent
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honestly i kind of wonder if there are that deep quality/dosage issues with the cartel drugs, exactly because it indeed seems bad business to surprise kill customers. a long probably less competent chain from there to mess up though
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Cybernetic Vermin posted:honestly i kind of wonder if there are that deep quality/dosage issues with the cartel drugs, exactly because it indeed seems bad business to surprise kill customers. a long probably less competent chain from there to mess up though I guess one answer would be "don't use fentanyl" but I guess it's cheap to produce and because of the potency it's probably easier to smuggle than the whatever amount of less potent opioids would have the same effect. Presumably the cartels have concluded that it's not worth the cost to try to do whatever would be necessary to ensure consistency. I also don't know at what point the cutting is occurring in the supply chain mystes fucked around with this message at 15:24 on Jul 16, 2023 |
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Jul 16, 2023 15:18
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yeah the big issue with fentanyl dosing is that cutting is common at every level of a highly-distributed distribution network. nobody has the sort of central control to enforce quality standards at the level of individual dealers
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I also promise that a non-zero number of scammers and FBI agents DMed him directly. One is promising to put him in touch with El Chapo's lieutenants for only .5 BTC, while Special Agent Lowfruit is simultaneously trying to get him to post "I love selling drugs in bulk and intend to profit from it" directly into the microphone.
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mystes posted:I'm curious what his idea is because if cartels cutting drugs with fentanyl were willing to put in a bunch of extra effort/cost to not kill people all they need to do is whatever steps and quality control pharma companies do to ensure that the dose is consistent Do you think it could be anything other than "blockchain"?
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DARPA posted:Do you think it could be anything other than "blockchain"?
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it's a troll, which is a shame because some of his replies were absolutely golden (except the last one that went too far): csears 1 day ago | root | parent | next [–] That's not lost on me. Obviously it would be a tough balance to strike to remain "useful" to the cartels, while not being "too useful" that they would feel the need to exert control. That's why I'm interested in educating myself more fully on the whole situation so I can make an informed risk assessment. csears 1 day ago | root | parent | prev | next [–] One could argue that cartel members and VCs do share some qualities. csears 1 day ago | root | parent | next [–] I see your point. That is certainly a possibility. Although it would be highly inconvenient to be arrested or get in trouble with the feds, it would make for an interesting story at parties. That's always been something I've struggled with. So... silver lining? A lot of historical figures I respect have been arrested for standing by their convictions. So I would be in good company. It also could turn into a good opportunity for publicity. Plus, it might actually gain me credibility in the eyes of the cartels. csears 1 day ago | root | parent | next [–] So you're saying that Zoom would be a bad option? csears 1 day ago | root | parent | next [–] Good advice. I know there have been situations where federal agencies have turned out to be "the bad guys", but I guess I'm optimistic that they are generally smart, well intentioned, and interested in some of the same outcomes that I'm talking about. csears 1 day ago | parent | next [–] I appreciate your take. I agree that working with multiple cartels would be risky, but it seems like working with just one cartel would also be risky. I'm not sure which is the better option. Ideally, I'd prefer to work with more of them. And on your other point, there would be hardware and software involved, but the cartels wouldn't be interacting with them directly. I'll be sure to have the cartels sign my EULA before proceeding with anything.
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*sadly folding a paper at the mornign cartel standup* he's right, chopping his head off and stuffing his balls in his mouth is against the eula. and we hit "accept" without even reading it
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"gonna make him an offer he can't refuse" *eula popup dialog with only an "accept" button*
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quote:I'll be sure to have the cartels sign my EULA before proceeding with anything. haha I liked this part of the bit dead give away but it’s funny
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necrotic posted:haha I liked this part of the bit
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necrotic posted:haha I liked this part of the bit the thread is stupid enough that it’s making me think of what a weeds/Silicon Valley crossover would look like
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Best Bi Geek Squid posted:"gonna make him an offer he can't refuse"
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Best Bi Geek Squid posted:"gonna make him an offer he can't refuse" lmao
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One might say that debugging is a form of investigative journalism, and vice-versa.
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bbarnett 4 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [–] And yet it wasn't a smirk, now was it? It was a smirk and other things. Right or wrong, call it what it is. Don't drop info off the event, and focus on one part of it. And if someone has a right not to be harassed, when doing their job in an office, why doesn't a cop, when doing their job on the street? Note, I said "doing their job", not "doing it wrong". For damned sure there are bad cops. But by god, there are a load of good ones, and some of them spend all day, dealing with people at their absolute worst, taking crap you or I wouldn't be able to handle for 5 minutes. reply
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jfc buddy you're meant to lick the boot not devour it whole
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7373737373 1 hour ago | parent | prev | next [–] Question: Would it be possible to store foodstuffs at close to 0 Kelvin at scale, indefinitely? Cryopreservation for food instead of people? Which foodstuffs "survive" long-term freezing? How large and economical could large-scale food cryopreservation be? reply
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pleasure kelvin
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what if freeze drying but more expensive
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what if a normal freezer but more expensive for no reason
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Cryonics but we throw your favourite treat in too
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store me with my it’s-its so I can enjoy them when revived, like a pharaoh in the next life
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a post about rising inequality has mostly decent comments but also a couple of bangers: roenxi 1 hour ago | prev | next [–] This continues a common but remarkably greedy line of thought where the existence of someone, somewhere, with a billion dollars suddenly robs life of all joy for everyone else. This may be a comforting thought to some people but it is also not a defensible position. It doesn't hold logically and as far as I recall all the major religions discourage thinking that way - likely because it leads to bad outcomes. Poor people looking at the ultra-wealthy as a pot of money isn't going to work. We've seen how that plays out - the ultra wealthy buy up a few media firms and then gently redirect all the anger towards the middle class and/or stirs up social issues. The focus really should be on absolute living standards and how to raise them. That is much harder to game and also fairer anovikov 1 hour ago | prev | next [–] I'm sure it's simply because almost everyone lives off unreported, cash income. Let's be honest: 60K per year is poverty, it's picking between living in a place without roaches vs eating out in a crappy place once per week. UK is not a poor country. I know plenty of people earning around a median wage but no one who actually lives on that little. When you get median wage, or two, or three, you still need someone else to pay your bills. My employees get 2-4x median wages and they do NOT live on that money alone (almost all of them moonlight elsewhere), and they are almost all struggling. I am far in top 1% and when i saw what is the asking rent now i said to myself - "wow if i had to move now, that'll be a predicament". Ask any landlord if they are getting paid through the bank. Many won't even accept bank payment. They are paid in cash - and that cash hasn't been in the bank since many circulation loops ago. People are not poor. They are buying everything like crazy, economy is running so hot it can blow up any moment. They just don't report the money they make.
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NihilCredo posted:anovikov 1 hour ago | prev | next [–]
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like a cognitive barrier. fascinating stuffroenxi posted:the existence of someone, somewhere, with a billion dollars suddenly robs life of all joy for everyone else. 
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eschaton posted:store me with my it’s-its so I can enjoy them when revived, like a pharaoh in the next life those things are like candy corn - once a year and you're good
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NihilCredo posted:This continues a common but remarkably greedy line of thought where the existence of someone, somewhere, with a billion dollars suddenly robs life of all joy for everyone else. This may be a comforting thought to some people but it is also not a defensible position. It doesn't hold logically and as far as I recall all the major religions discourage thinking that way - likely because it leads to bad outcomes.
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darkclouds posted:Mega doses can help show up the effect it has in the body and how long it lasts in the body before the effect becomes neutral or opposite, the latter indicating other chemicals are involved in the pathway, perhaps depleting the cellular pool, something which many studies fail to achieve because they run for such short time periods and dont use large amounts of a chemical.
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turning my blood into jam to own the doctors
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